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It's easy for you to say if you are veteran f2p player or a whale since you already have op units who can clear abyss but there is still many new pc players or mobile players who are straggling in the abyss. Remember how there was so many players who complained about how hard Childe's boss fight was they had to nerf it? Look at Envi for example he couldn't even get 36 star in this abyss with his p2w team and he is a day 1 player.
Theyre 2 characters I want in Genshin which are xiao and ayaka because I love them so I’m waiting for theyre rerun I really don’t care If theyre meta or not lol it’s just the way I choose to play I get the characters I want and have fun
Waifus are the meta
It's a PvE game, and it's not centered around units it's centered around synergy of your 4 charecters and the rng of artifact domains
The hardest thing in my 9 months of play time I've encountered is getting a good artifact..Wich is my issue with this abyss cycle lmfao 50cr 130cd ain't cutting it on 8 units no matter how huge the buffs are
In my opinion meta in this game is strictly just abyss (floor 12 only) and even then you need meta just to get 9*, without meta you can still get 6-8*. Those extra 100primos a month is the genshin meta
Meta is really only important in abyss, no? why does everyone care about abyss so much? the rewards aren't even worth it. please explain! im very casual and don't even bother with abyss :0
In Genshin, you pull a character because you like him/her
i agree so much! why do we even need meta? why does it matter? WHERE does it matter? all content in the game can be cleared with any character or team comp 🙂
I’m glad the game is easy enough for someone of my age to still be able to enjoy it. It’s funny because I’ve so many younger people but I’m the only one I know who plays Genshin.
considering how abyss is tailored to new chars makes meta irrelevant, even the traditional morgana who is "meta" struggles in the doggo and triple kenki abyss.
Also waiting to this day for ur tier list of tier lists vid
i already play for almost a year and i am still struggling with abyss….. so meta does matter for me….
No joke i thought meta helps in abyss i wanted high big pp dmg but idk wadnt able to do max stars. Crazy insane artifacts didnt help…. i changed my team in a just for fun try out team and i made it easyli….. wtf why? Not finished build trash artifacts on Kokomi + fischl and they are op i told you. Support Charakters or off field are broken. High investment doesnt carry as you think i used the same team as last time on abyss . Last abyss easy as fk and this abyss same team with worse buffs to choose… unpossible lmao
So i made a just for fun joke team and crushed it easyli. Now what i want to tell you is: you can win easyli with a trash team comb have fun
Meta characters matter simply because you’ll have to put in less for those characters it’s litterly that’s simple.Just like he said if you put in crazy time then it doesn’t matter what character you play but if you wanna invest less time then meta is important
Honestly, on both of my accounts I can't clear Floor 12 in Abyss, and I try to use different characters on each account. I pay a little attention to meta, but I ultimately pull if I like the character's design, story, kit, etc. One example of a pairing I like that I've never seen people do is a Thoma Lisa comp. I experimented with it and I love blowing up hilichurls overloading the burning grass. While I don't do damage per screenshot numbers because my artifacts suck, I still have fun in open world or Abyss!
Genshin is easy when you’re at the correct level. Once you’re in end game most of the world enemies become easy. Spiral abyss is only easier when, again, you’re at the right level. I think Meta is any unit that makes the content easier. So long as the character is at the correct level. You want difficult content? Leave your characters at 60 and play world level 8.
The only time meta would happen is if they release events that not majority of players could clear
But for now, I think there's nothing for me to worry about clearing the content and just focus on my own enjoyment
Yes, you can clear an enemy in 10 seconds but some events have dialogue even in battles so I would rather stretch out my gameplay than clear content in minutes 😅
Yea this game is way too easy. I only use crappy 4* artifacts now so I don't one shot everything anymore. I have an R3 Staff of Homa in my back pocket in case Mihoyo ever feels like putting out an end game, but I dont know if that will ever happen. Abyss isn't even worth doing anymore since you barely get any gems.
Meh, I always pull everytime I gain 160 primogems since I'm f2p along with being impatient with having to save for someone when you can just build up pity before hand but I know it's bad pulling if you have alot of constellations for the 4 stars in the banner but idc because I rarely even play the game
I used to think meta was important, I got Ganyu and she can easily complete all the content with her and Kazuha in a 2 man team, even 36 star abyss. But she is absolutely boring to play. That changed my whole outlook, and Itto actually is so fun to play. All units can clear abyss, some require more investment than others but not all the units are equally fun.
Amazing Tier List:
S: Amber
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B: Yoimiya
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F: Everyone else
(For if characters are Amber or not)
I have been playing since day one and still haven't 36 star the abyss, I just enjoy building a wide variety of characters and playing fun comps that I make up. It's not worth it to stress over 50 primos every abyss reset to me, so I just cruise through once and get 33-34 stars and than wait till the reset.
It won't matter to people who don't care about doing big damage and who don't do 12-3 spiral all the time. The only tier lists that would matter would be weapons & which artifacts suit units most(granted it takes so long to get good artifacts) . I've played the game since November 29th and I had my time where I cared about meta but that was until I had a solid team which made things much easier… So I got bored & made all my other characters level 70 & their talents to level 6 so I can switch my team and have fun(and I didn't focus on getting perfect artifacts for everyone bcz I was busy so I just had a set for two teams) 🙂 You can't have fun if you're too focused on this pointless Meta , Just have fun and use characters you like.
Meh, just play and enjoy. Much less stress that way.
This might be one of the most privileged genshin videos I've ever watched. A true "let them eat cake" moment that betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of meta and the important role it plays for F2P. Telling players to "just invest in whichever characters you like" is really not much different from telling them to "just pull for the best characters".
Listen Valk, I normally avoid all caps but I will use it here because emphasis is so important:
F2P ARE JUST AS CONSTRAINED ON INVESTMENT RESOURCES AS THEY ARE ON PRIMOS, AND FOLLOWING THE META IS KEY TO OVERCOMING THIS BOTTLENECK. ACHIEVING HIGH "DAMAGE PER SCREENSHOT" IS NOT THE POINT OF META. THE POINT OF META IS "DAMAGE PER INVESTMENT".
This isn't the type of game where you can just sink resources willy-nilly into whoever you want and get results. Raising characters is a long, tedious and expensive task. If you blow your scant resources on the wrong character you fail to clear events and fail to progress in abyss, which means you have less resources to work with which makes it even harder to recover.
It'd be great if we all could just raise characters to 80/90 with 8/8/8 talents and a level 90 weapon on a whim but thats not the world we live in. F2P players need to invest in the right characters so they can clear content and get resources.
There is a meta now more so than ever imo. For my account personally, before I pulled Eula I wasn't even getting to floor 12 of abyss let alone clearing floor 12. Picking up Raiden also opened up the use of her national team comp and ever since I've been clearing floor 12 regularly.
Even in more challenging event content that same meta that defines spiral abyss is relevant. Certain comps will always work better than others.
The problem with the community is that some players use the meta as a measuring stick; if you don't play the absolute best teams then "get gud" which shouldn't be the case. I play so many "off brand" comps/synergies because at the end of the day you play how you want to but you also have to understand that if you aim to take on the more challenging content in the game then you have to pay attention to what works best and what is most efficient/effective for clearing said content.
So yes, whatever meta exists now does have a place in Genshin Impact. How important it is is arbitrary but it does matter.
Honestly you can win with basicially any unit if their artifacts look like 3000 atk 100% Critrate /300% CritDmg (im exaggerating here before anybody goes the "but man thats impossible stats")
but meta matters to people who dont have god artifacts to make the worst units perform at those levels
thats why i wholeheartedly agree with mtashed on "get ganyu, hu tao, xiao or a similar hyper carry then you can pull for fun and memes"
not because they are mandatory but they can make work with way less powerful artifacts
whenever you see people clear abyss 36* with 4* units and 4* weapons they never show the artifacts that have paid resin in them that easyly gets you a c6r5 full morgana team and that fact gets just outright ignored when it makes up 75-90% of a units power.
It's sad because abyss is definitely getting harder but it's not hard enough to keep up with the ridiculously powerful new chars like Raiden and kazuha. With these two around theres no way any abyss can be hard unless you purposely nerf urself. Just look at itto, smash ur face into the keyboard n clear. no strat or skill needed just because he does big dmg. It's so stupid and to make it worst. Mihiyos only solution is to make them more tanky. This company is many things but being completely oblivious to real challenge is the one thing I'll describe them with.
Can someone explain what he means by ‘meta’?
Wow, how can a man be so based?! Totally agree with your points. Viability is just a question of investment. All you need is good investment in a char and it will crush anything.
Really no point in meta. Just need to put in time with the grind and get your characters up and learn the play style.
Well this is kinda a stupid take. The game is very easy for you because you whaled so much of course it becomes easy. Abyss 36* is not a very easy task for some people.
I like to be efficient. Also being a low spending player (moon and sometimes battle pass), I can't afford not to be selective. Those that prefer waifu over meta are free to do as they wish, but I'm closer to wanting stronger characters. I also don't have complete faith that there won't be harder content ever. Some games have that nice juicy carrot in front of you when you start, and then creep things up. Plus I didn't manage 36 stars the last 1 or 2 abyss clears like I used to.
yeah the so called "theorycrafter" are so annoying especially that 1010 guy
waifu > meta
Is xiao still good?
I really dislike the meta in Genshin Impact, if the character is not Hu Tao, Zhongli, or Ganyu they're considered trash.
Here is your answer imo, resources are limited , people can't build every character they have , so they wanna know which is worth investing in so they don't waste these resources building a bad unit , yes you can still win with bad units but it will be a lot easier to just do a small search and know that , no , you probably shouldn't triple crown your barbra , unless she is your favorite character
I need meta for abyss because my 2 fav characters Xiao and Hutao cant handle current abyss just too much rng
I skipped Venti kazuha Ganyu and more but now their like essential for f2p to 36 star abyss
The game just always makes the abyss fit with the current characters on banner and thats just pretty stupid tbh
There is no meta, there is only bad artifact
Said by someone how play since day one
Just Focus on character u like and have fun 🙂 Trust me
I would say meta doesn't matter in terms of its actual necessity, but meta does matter when it comes to fun factor. Being very powerful and getting really high numbers is fun. To see a DPS lag behind your others units, even if that power is inconsequential, still feels bad. Yoimiya, while fun to play, feels bad with her lack of AOE in Abyss
People who play PGR : meta ? Tier lists ? What's that ?
Even though many say that Meta is for F2P/New Players, it’s really not. It’s just a way to feed the gacha machine, in this game at least.
Noelle for example is a Medium/High-Investment High-Reward Unit with High Survivability, yet it was barely ever suggested ( aside from recently, which is due to the new claymore and the comparisons with Itto ).
“Meta” has alienated many units that are valid and easy to play ( while providing high rewards relative to the amount of investment ) in favor of arguably clunkier units with higher DMG potential.
Remember when everyone went nuts on Klee and how she was supposed to be DPS incarnate? Or how Fischl went from “DPS Queen” to “just an off-field support”? Or the very case of Rosaria? And what about Yoimiya?
Not to mention the complete disregard of Character vs Environment in favor of Character vs Character to define what’s good and what’s garbage in a game that lacks overall difficulty.
Im with you
Meta just make a game die slowly
And those with meta kind of thinking is kinda toxic
I agree that meta doesn't matter to most Genshin players. But for some end game players who enjoys speed running, meta is important. I for example enjoy the process of creating a brand new account and then trying to get 36 stars as fast as possible.
TRY TELLING THIS TO CN COMMUNITY AND TC LIKE Zajef ten ten or keqing mains. may be as a whale u cant see the importance of meta as u can get 36* abyss with u wallet but that 20 sec faster clear time that u dont care about is sec u need to kill the ruin gurd on 12 3 after u done dealing with those retarded dogs. but u dont care as with u c6 r5 baal u 1shot thos fuckers. the game was ez not any more. u dont feel is as u have more dmg than the abyss req. i hop the abyss gets harder as more 5* con u have, just like world levels. eg if u bringing c0 baal the dogs will have 200k hp but if u bring c6 ball with r5 the hp becomes 2m. i pretty sure u will have no problem with that as the game is sooo ez. is just good game balance
It's important for f2ps who want most optimized way to clear abyss. I think, it's also because it acts as faux progression which lacks in game. I'll be curious to see, you try only f2p account and do anti-meta teams to 36 star abyss, if you want to do that 🙂
this statement is even more meta^^ thnx for the vid nice as always…but i totally agree there is no meta if there are no leaderboards^^people just think its meta cause there are chars anybody uses cause they are so good like bennett etc.
nothing but the truth tbh
I think it depends on where you are, what resources are you using and what your goals are.
"Meta Has No Place in Genshin"
Me: Good. The freedom of choice, makes us invest in the characters we care for. As all gachas should be…. 😈