I know it's not really related to the Topic of this video but…
Does anyone find it funny how much the Power Hierarchy has changed in Genshin since the start of the game? In the beginning it was simply something like Sustainer> travellers in their prime> archons.
But now…with every nation, every lore we get in regards to Celestia, The Sovereigns and Khaenri'ah, it just drives me insane how much we didn't know.
We all believed Traveller in their Prime would be some very powerful force. But NOPE. Dainsleif is strong enough to beat our Abyss twin in the 4.6 Archon quest, in his or her prime, also having the Abyss to fight with our twin and also Dainsleif holding back ;(
That simply means, above us the Travellers are so many other categories of beings…For example, the Sukuna and Gojo of Genshin Impact, them being The Primoridal One and Dragon King Nibelung, then below them are the Shades or Sovereigns in their Primes contesting, then now we have the Sinner's, and then we have the Archon's, and you also have beings like Capitano or The Hexenzirkel who can do feats comparable to the ARCHONS.
I Know I am yapping but i want to say, every time someone covers videos on Genshin Lore about either Shades or Sovereigns, it makes me laugh at myself 4 years ago about how much we didn't know about the true power hierarchy in Teyvat.
Tevyat sounds like the heaven that Sunday from HSR wanted to create for humans but in the end, failed because humans are not mindless cattle. They have their ambitions and want to live freely under their own rules.
I know that Neuvillete wants to judge the usurpers but i feel like some of the shades arent loyal to the primordial one. I also feel like Neuvillete is going to eventually oppose Nibelung since hes grown to care for humanity
About Hydro Dragon – I think Neuvillette was born shortly after Egeria died. Because with her death, her position as an archon was inherited by Focalors, but her position as a heart of the primordial sea was left vacant. So either by the law of the elements, or by Shade of Life's will, Neuvillette was born. I also suspect that Xiuhcoatl is the same dragon as dragon-king Nibelung. Because Xiuhcoatl isn't a proper name, it just means "fire dragon". And because fire (phlogiston) is said to be the origin of all other elements. About why they aren't showing us the Shades – maybe it would be very obvious that they are related to the Sustainer if we see them? About the cup – mysteriously, it seems to be spread between "space" and "geology" evenly between different translations. About paying attention to Irminsul – I think it was retroactively grown like the Sacred Sakura. As described in "Parable of the Tree". The previous memory tree was burned down in Natlan, and it was burned down so hard, even its roots, the ley lines, were damaged.
Im mind blown 😮 About the shade of death it does absolutely makes sense when equate the fact the Mora leylines and that Mora are zhongli blood and flesh. Maybe also the experience leylines is associated with time since you know you gain experience through time and venti is associated with time and they are the Original survived Archons .
Not to criticize, just to empty my mind of some thoughts and discuss it a little but, why most Genshin Impact dedicated channels are talking that much about the same thing, i start listening to this videos and think to my self "well, tell me something I don't know" because mostly they talk about things that are already in game, and if I think about it what we can make up from theories is basically nothing, we don't and we won't know until we know. So, props on your commitment with the content but honestly I don't know what to thing about discussing the same topics every once in a while with the little drops of information that hoyo gives of every years more or less.
I guess the sustainer at the start of the game is the shade of space. I dont think they need to hide it. The sustainer is different with the heavenly principle. I dont think zhongli is a shade or related with the shade of space. Is there anything in the game that relates zhongli with a shade? All i know is venti with time, egeria/focalors with life and xbalanque/mavuika with death.
Someone already pointed this out but the Chinese version is “Cup of the void“ and is based of Chalice of WATER. The geo element is still confusing because of its relations to both space & life
have i not played some quest or something?? a lot of these cut sceneces i do not remember or have never seen before?? nice video! can't believe i didn't make some of these connections myself
I mean.. the sustainer's powers seem to revolve around those boxes she uses, and when it comes to liyue it's the only nation where the vision's core is a square, the only nation the oculi's core is also a square and the only nation where the archon is depicted holding a cube on the statue of the seven. I think it would make more sense for the sustainer to be the shade of space rather then the primordial one, maybe she is the only one still loyal to the primordial one which is why refers to herself as the sustainer and the THE heavenly principals
i think it’s crazy how the sustainer looks so simelar to the hersscher of void and hoyo said there was something in common between them but they wouldn’t say what it js
My guess is Phanes were defeated against the second who came. From the beginning of the history of teyvat, just after Phanes won the war against the dragon. He decided to create humans with guidance by the shades. At that time, ancient civilizations were created and humans worshipped Phanes.
But after the second one came, the situation became kinda weird. The human prayers were ignored and he sent down the divine nail.
I'm assuming Phanes actually lost the second war against the second one. So he took his role to rule teyvat. That's why angels and seelie were banished from celestia. Clearly, the way of ruling not the same, The second one, clearly doesn't has any attachments on humans and other being like the previous one. That's why the shades are still helping humans in some way but worries if the heavenly principle started to notice their involvement, it could be another punishment for them and other people.
What if people been wrong about the character people call " the heavenly principles" is really a moon sisters? She literally came out of a primogem. Has a symbol similar to paimon. Mind you her name with "principles" dont make sense unless she's got souls in her that still talk on their own through her body but I doubt that
I also think that the Sustainer is the HP herself. She manipulated time by stopping us. She manipulated space by closing us into her cubes. Which is like the building blocks of the firmament. She protects mankind (the arrogation of mankind ends now) and she clearly was strong enough to take away our powers or something. Also, HP created her own 4 shades. Likely they look like jer in their original form. Her powers jabe resemblance to Zhongli's (cubes like around Zhongpa's shield, when she stops is, there are the same squares like when Zhongli forms his shield)… And Zhongli stated at the rite of passing quest that he did have a female form in the past (when he is accused of being madam Ping)…
I think, Sustainer IS the HP and Zhongpa is the shade of void
If we look at the mural in the domains where we seemingly see the symbols of primodial one and his shades at the top, there is a square shape at the bottom, that mysteriously resembles geo symbol. And Liyue's visions are only ones that are square too
THE ANGER ABOUT CAPITANO NOT HSOWING HIS FACE IS SO REALLLLLLL. Like Hoyo :((( But I get why they want to censor it. As Capitano said earlier patch, "My body no longer looks the same" and is "rotting" which probably means that his face is disfigured and cannot be shown on an anime game which can't even show blood much 😭😭😭😭
K, you do good lore, and you can drop a Spiral Mountain out of nowhere. You're good in my book
Our of 7 archons only zhongli still remains mysterious throughout the entire game. Isn't that concerning 🤔
Asmoday, Paimon, Columbina and Venty
I know it's not really related to the Topic of this video but…
Does anyone find it funny how much the Power Hierarchy has changed in Genshin since the start of the game? In the beginning it was simply something like Sustainer> travellers in their prime> archons.
But now…with every nation, every lore we get in regards to Celestia, The Sovereigns and Khaenri'ah, it just drives me insane how much we didn't know.
We all believed Traveller in their Prime would be some very powerful force. But NOPE. Dainsleif is strong enough to beat our Abyss twin in the 4.6 Archon quest, in his or her prime, also having the Abyss to fight with our twin and also Dainsleif holding back ;(
That simply means, above us the Travellers are so many other categories of beings…For example, the Sukuna and Gojo of Genshin Impact, them being The Primoridal One and Dragon King Nibelung, then below them are the Shades or Sovereigns in their Primes contesting, then now we have the Sinner's, and then we have the Archon's, and you also have beings like Capitano or The Hexenzirkel who can do feats comparable to the ARCHONS.
I Know I am yapping but i want to say, every time someone covers videos on Genshin Lore about either Shades or Sovereigns, it makes me laugh at myself 4 years ago about how much we didn't know about the true power hierarchy in Teyvat.
Morax is an adeptus
Tevyat sounds like the heaven that Sunday from HSR wanted to create for humans but in the end, failed because humans are not mindless cattle. They have their ambitions and want to live freely under their own rules.
I know that Neuvillete wants to judge the usurpers but i feel like some of the shades arent loyal to the primordial one. I also feel like Neuvillete is going to eventually oppose Nibelung since hes grown to care for humanity
About Hydro Dragon – I think Neuvillette was born shortly after Egeria died. Because with her death, her position as an archon was inherited by Focalors, but her position as a heart of the primordial sea was left vacant. So either by the law of the elements, or by Shade of Life's will, Neuvillette was born.
I also suspect that Xiuhcoatl is the same dragon as dragon-king Nibelung. Because Xiuhcoatl isn't a proper name, it just means "fire dragon". And because fire (phlogiston) is said to be the origin of all other elements.
About why they aren't showing us the Shades – maybe it would be very obvious that they are related to the Sustainer if we see them?
About the cup – mysteriously, it seems to be spread between "space" and "geology" evenly between different translations.
About paying attention to Irminsul – I think it was retroactively grown like the Sacred Sakura. As described in "Parable of the Tree". The previous memory tree was burned down in Natlan, and it was burned down so hard, even its roots, the ley lines, were damaged.
Im mind blown 😮
About the shade of death it does absolutely makes sense when equate the fact the Mora leylines and that Mora are zhongli blood and flesh.
Maybe also the experience leylines is associated with time since you know you gain experience through time and venti is associated with time and they are the Original survived Archons .
Yippee!
Not to criticize, just to empty my mind of some thoughts and discuss it a little but, why most Genshin Impact dedicated channels are talking that much about the same thing, i start listening to this videos and think to my self "well, tell me something I don't know" because mostly they talk about things that are already in game, and if I think about it what we can make up from theories is basically nothing, we don't and we won't know until we know. So, props on your commitment with the content but honestly I don't know what to thing about discussing the same topics every once in a while with the little drops of information that hoyo gives of every years more or less.
I guess the sustainer at the start of the game is the shade of space. I dont think they need to hide it. The sustainer is different with the heavenly principle. I dont think zhongli is a shade or related with the shade of space. Is there anything in the game that relates zhongli with a shade? All i know is venti with time, egeria/focalors with life and xbalanque/mavuika with death.
Someone already pointed this out but the Chinese version is “Cup of the void“ and is based of Chalice of WATER. The geo element is still confusing because of its relations to both space & life
Almost wanna say the song is a old mario game but maybe the one with yoshi in it.
Everyone thinks im crazy but i just have this strong feeling that Columbina could be the shade of death herself.
What a treat to witness.
Out of all the lore we got in the game… The shades are the variable that catches my intention the most…
have i not played some quest or something?? a lot of these cut sceneces i do not remember or have never seen before?? nice video! can't believe i didn't make some of these connections myself
I mean.. the sustainer's powers seem to revolve around those boxes she uses, and when it comes to liyue it's the only nation where the vision's core is a square, the only nation the oculi's core is also a square and the only nation where the archon is depicted holding a cube on the statue of the seven. I think it would make more sense for the sustainer to be the shade of space rather then the primordial one, maybe she is the only one still loyal to the primordial one which is why refers to herself as the sustainer and the THE heavenly principals
i think it’s crazy how the sustainer looks so simelar to the hersscher of void and hoyo said there was something in common between them but they wouldn’t say what it js
My guess is Phanes were defeated against the second who came. From the beginning of the history of teyvat, just after Phanes won the war against the dragon. He decided to create humans with guidance by the shades. At that time, ancient civilizations were created and humans worshipped Phanes.
But after the second one came, the situation became kinda weird. The human prayers were ignored and he sent down the divine nail.
I'm assuming Phanes actually lost the second war against the second one. So he took his role to rule teyvat. That's why angels and seelie were banished from celestia. Clearly, the way of ruling not the same, The second one, clearly doesn't has any attachments on humans and other being like the previous one. That's why the shades are still helping humans in some way but worries if the heavenly principle started to notice their involvement, it could be another punishment for them and other people.
What if people been wrong about the character people call " the heavenly principles" is really a moon sisters? She literally came out of a primogem. Has a symbol similar to paimon. Mind you her name with "principles" dont make sense unless she's got souls in her that still talk on their own through her body but I doubt that
I also think that the Sustainer is the HP herself. She manipulated time by stopping us. She manipulated space by closing us into her cubes. Which is like the building blocks of the firmament. She protects mankind (the arrogation of mankind ends now) and she clearly was strong enough to take away our powers or something.
Also, HP created her own 4 shades. Likely they look like jer in their original form. Her powers jabe resemblance to Zhongli's (cubes like around Zhongpa's shield, when she stops is, there are the same squares like when Zhongli forms his shield)… And Zhongli stated at the rite of passing quest that he did have a female form in the past (when he is accused of being madam Ping)…
I think, Sustainer IS the HP and Zhongpa is the shade of void
If we look at the mural in the domains where we seemingly see the symbols of primodial one and his shades at the top, there is a square shape at the bottom, that mysteriously resembles geo symbol. And Liyue's visions are only ones that are square too
THE ANGER ABOUT CAPITANO NOT HSOWING HIS FACE IS SO REALLLLLLL. Like Hoyo :((( But I get why they want to censor it. As Capitano said earlier patch, "My body no longer looks the same" and is "rotting" which probably means that his face is disfigured and cannot be shown on an anime game which can't even show blood much 😭😭😭😭
i’m sick
Is that Nox from path to nowhere in the thumbnail