In light of recent events regarding the drama with Hoyo and Genshin Impact, I wanted to make a video talking about what I believe is causing Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail appear to be competing against each other, and how it can be stopped.
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this is dumb af and its clearly not being abandoned. and like literally today they started a login campaign with a free ten pull. they've been giving tons of events with primo gems. genshin isnt abandoned in the least. People are just feeling entitled to extra free shit in an already free game already receiving massive high quality expansions that companies like EA would have charged out the ass for. You guys need to grow up and learn to enjoy the content that these talented groups of artists, writers, and game designers are giving to us for free. Ever heard not to look a gift horse in the mouth?
I😊 will never ever ever leave
hsr to me feels i’m doing nothing on a regular basis but it has great qol and time efficiency. genshin feels like i’m doing a lot regularly with bad qol and time efficiency. out of the two i’ll still pick genshin. i wish they would reward both playerbases equally, but out of the two i personally feel they don’t need to reward genshin players as much to retain attention on the basis that there is more to actually engage with. even as an ar60 player with maxed out regions, i feel like i have more to do in genshin having not played any content last update than i do in the last 3 hsr ones. i’m on break from genshin cuz i’m playing another gacha game atm and i can’t focus on more than one daily game, and i’ve permanently dropped hsr since 1.4 for context.
I love GI but im just fed up with the lack of quality. The events and story is half assed, none have actual endings or continuation.
I genuinely hope wuthering wave can compete with genshin even just by bit. Tower of fantasy was a total letdown 🙃🙃
Why 🤔 old player play from beginning can get almost all 5 star character with only monthly pass, learn to save ur gem and use it wisely, for those keep complaining unfair, they have use their brain ?
If a company game can't earn money from player / customer, what they are doing 😂 ? If u love the game, spend it and let the game become better quality
If u no have salary, u want to work ? Think twice. Genshin impact player too many of it, free 1 = free millions+, 5 star not easy to pull, if u are unlucky, u will spend a lot to get it, GI teach u what is business strategy and finance planning, for sure free player can't get all, just pick what u want by using ur brain save the gem, spend it wisely, u can get what u want
I FUCKING agree with your final points.
Why that fuck is HYV playing favoritism? Like, do they want their games to cannibalize on each others playebase? They have made multiple games prior to this. Like, do they just want to move the players to the latest releases rather than provide support to all of their games?
If they want that, they should stop releasing gachas and just release non-gacha games instead as those games they can drop support and people will just move to the new release.
They can't be confident that Genshin will survive without competition because they opened the gates to what a gacha can be. Sooner or later someone would make an actual Genshin Killer and people would jump ship to that.
"Being abandoned" apparently means breaking the day 1 record in sales for a banner.
You know what is making me quit Genshin? The unnecessary stamina bar……….
Genshin could never
I’m not even excited to play Genshin which hurts me
All the problems in Genshin are from Cai. Period. Cai is the problem.
i played genshin and i like it, sadly i hate "HATE" the stupid element system like the plage xD
i love and enjoy Honkai star rail alot really enjoyable in my book, but i'm also someone who enjoys turnbase games xD
Also i dont use twitter or what kind as in my book it is pointless to use xD
Good video overall 🙂
I think Genshin would be ruined if you treated it like Star Rail. I play both, and Genshin would be too easy if you were just handed wishes and more free characters. Because you "can beat Genshin with ANY character." Star Rail has type match-ups (break) and would be significantly harder without the variety of characters you're afforded with free wishes/characters.
This topic is silly. two different games, that, apart from overly online reddit gamers, wont attract the same crowd at all. I’m sad to see cretors participating in unfounded (and unimportant) drama like this
I believe it's perfectly justifiable to compare the two as everything except the combat and overworld are either very similar or downright the same the the main thing being the rewards and characters that honkai gets compared to genshin and i understand it especially when you play both you go into genshin and almost always never get rewards that are either easy ir simple to get hinkai has given out from what i've seen multiple free twn pulls from daily log ins not all at once but still and getting the currency to buy the summon mats is from what I've noticed much easier to get in honkai than in genshi and the main character in genshin feels pathetic and neglected compared to the honkai mc from what i can tell the honkai mc seems playable in most of if not all the content whereas the genahin mc is just a letdown time and time again getting stat boost on par with that of a four star instead of a five star and always being a lesser version of a character being released for that region unlike the honkai mc who feels original and feels useable he doesn't feel like a drag on my team unlike tje genshin mc if there is anything i missed or a critique anyone has feel free to tell me
hi3 once again being the best hoyo game
Let's face it. Genshin started as a shameful clone of LZBW. Mihoyo's expected life-time for Genshin would probably 5-7 years; there are 7 regions in Genshin world. BUT their earnings is way more expected and probably covers all 7 years of a normal gacha game. To be fair, a gacha game's average lifetime is about 5 years, after that they are in maintenance mode (or shutdown if no money earned). Looking at this Lunar New Year's reward for Genshin, clearly Mihoyo has already turned on "maintenance mode" for their "money-grabbing cow game". They gonna run out of ideas upon releasing all 7 regions soon. Or maybe even now they are running of ideas to make the game earn more money. I saw the potential of Genshin when it first released. Played it for 9 months then dropped it. I hated gacha concept in general. Prefer unlocking characters thru gameplay or would even buy it as DLCs if the price is right. Gacha = Gambling. Enough said.
It’s shit that Genshin has a gotcha system to begin with.
the players will be back, like all addicts are
I never really compared until toxic genshin player's invaded the live streams of star rail and to br honest wasn't it genshin player's who tried too kill genshin dev so if u got this kind of fan base what u expect good treatment sure the genshin devs treated the games 1 anniversary bad but that doesn't mean go try too life threatening them ore even try too kill them if that story is even true just leave us star rail player's alone and go complain too genshin devs not us star rail players
Don't like Honkai because there's no player expression. It's a shame Genshin is getting the short end of the stick every time.
the thing is, from what i heard at least so take a grain of salt with this, Genshin's head leader was the previous head Dev of Honkai Impact 3rd for about 3 years, which the rewards were terrible from what i heard. which they replaced him with the current head dev that overlooks both Honkai games. to me, i think the biggest reason Genshin sucks is because of the head dev (or team director) I honestly think they need to replace the head dev for Genshin, i mean i dont really want anyone to lose their job, but like come on- this is like his 7th year of making a fanbase turn against you, gotta make him not the head dev anymore
I feel like Genshin does not try to become better because the game simply does not need to be better. Genshin is THE most profitable and known gatcha game out there and the community spends money on every banner. Their numbers go up, not down, despite the fact that many people claimed that they are not going to spend a single dime on the banner because of the 3 wish drama that just happened.
They dominate the market, they make their own rules – so nothing needs to be changed, sadly.
Sadly these issues have always been there since the first Anniversary its not being abandoned now its always been treated as the middle child of the family.
Gacha addicted kids complaining that they need their pulls to fuel their addiction will never not be funny
dont worry maybe you can steal mum and dad's credit card and bankrupt them one day
The thing is Star Rail never has nor will be as big as Genshin, HSR Players are likely moving back to spending on Genshin instead. Star Rail may seem more generous from free pulls, events, weekly resets. But Genshin has a lot of primos behind exploration and playing the game for longer. I would say HSR is a better game for casuals, or a game to play for an hour at most a day, and still make steady progress. But Genshin has a lot more to do for its rewards.
People also fail to realize Star Rail's relic system is worse than Genshin's, and seeing people argue "but we get to choose main stat" yeah like once a patch + there are a lot more substats you have to worry about 💀💀.
The fact that they can afford to be so non-generous with every event is proof that nobody is abandoning the game lol
It's not rocket science, if a company which sells stuff for money resorts to giving away that stuff for free in large amounts all the time, it probably means they aren't selling as much as you'd think, or they struggle to retain relevance. If a company can afford to not be generous and cause crying on internet forums pretty much every 6 weeks, it probably means their userbase and sales numbers are so good the crybabies are negligible.
People keep pointing out to HSR's generosity vs Genshin's not-so-generous events as proof that genshin is doing poorly/worse. It should be obvious that it's the opposite. No company is your friend and giving you free stuff out of the goodness of their heart, there needs to be something in it for them to make up for the cost of the free stuff. For a company, being overly generous is essentially being desperate for attention, and ignoring drama over and over is being confident that the drama is actually meaningless.
But some players tend to forget that the game is a product and MHY is a company, not their friend. You're a customer, not a fan, they're not trying to please you, they're trying to make money off you. If they're not friendly with you, it means they don't need to and business is going well. If they're too friendly, maybe you should wonder what's going on that makes them behave like that. If anything, the day genshin starts being too generous is the day we should start worrying about its state, that would be unusual and probably the symptom of internal problems.
since i play only genshin impact game for 3 years , by brain is dead and i cannot play HARDCORE games anymore due to how easy Genshin is LOL.
my brain now is so slow to respone hardcore bosses and enemies. last time before i play genshin, im verygood playing HARDCORE Games such a CodeVein, Dragon Nest,etc.
after i satisfied with genshin im gonna quit and change game to WW since its hard game. i dont want to destroy my brain with this EASY GAME, i want game makes me think harder and hone my brain.
When Genshin released it felt like so much love went into it. It’s really hard to watch the game fall from grace and be exploited to the point of being just a cash cow when it had the potential to be one of the best games ever created. Too bad the devs decided to trade their passion for eddies.
There's a reason why Apple is a bigger company than Samsung even though Samsung always do giveaways phones tablets etc, something that you never see Apple doing and still become a trillion dollar company, HSR is trying hard to not being forgotten something that is already happening with people movin on to new games that's why they are trying hard to please people and the only people using this to bash hoyoverse are people that already hate Genshin and either don't play the game anymore or not spend money anymore and that also explain why the Massive boycott failed
I'm a fan of both games and am currently playing them both have been since day 1 When I see comparison, it's just a "huh, that's cool" moment for me, and when it comes down to it, Genshin impact is just a prototype, a testing ground to see what players liked and didn't like, what players want and Don't want for their future games that's why I think Honkai StarRails always looked to be getting better treatment!
Im curious to see if the discontent will transfer to a decrease in sales or not
The three intertwined fates were just the straw on the camel's back. This has been the culmination of years of stingy and sporadic rewards. Not just for gacha currency, but the drip feed resin and the low rewards when we have to farm mora and heroes wit.