– No 5* cons or weapon
– No battle pass weapon
– Penalty if the char need a niche C6 4*
– Penalty if the char need a niche 5* teammate
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Why no Childe?
Zajef's legendaty skill issues
I want 5 star DPS ease of use ranking
Navia can use Sac, right? Doesn't seem like that's much more difficult to get than DBane, so I don't really understand the argument for accessible 4* weapons
I wouldnt put Al haitam on top 2 because tighnari exist and you can get him on a 50/50.. this is an f2p list
This list feels cursed, because its only 5* list, also not putting yelan there is a crime.
I like how everyone agrees on the Top 3 (Neuvilette, Arlecchino Alhaitham). All arguments start after that 😂
All of this people about to be powercrept by Natlanis LMAO
Ayaka got down so bad, like a queen no.1 best dps since release, then dropped down for even not in the list at all
I never understood why Alhaithem is seen as above Nilou when they are very similar and cover ST/AOE respectively. Like Alhaithem is ew in massive aoe and the same goes for Nilou against big bosses. So why is Alhaithem better? His niche is far more crowded as well.
Another L take by zajef. Childe is more f2p friendly than many units in his list. And his team clears all abyss, single and multiple target as well as element and dps check.
"Move Wriothesely, no I don't think so." Wrio being a top 10 dps that TGS and Zajef agree on is so validating.
I think if you put Raiden there and take her hyperbloom into account you have to put Kuki Shinobu as well.
Also for the editor I think you should change the outro. It's gotten old and incredibly annoying
GUYS🗣🗣
IMO if you're excluding battle pass weapons you should also limit gacha weapons from standard as well, maybe to anything above R1. A lot of people don't pull on weapon banner or just have bad luck so you can't assume everyone will have whatever random weapon you want. For example, I didn't get a Dragon's Bane for over two years, including from the first weapon banner I pulled on where it was in focus.
This isn't a criticism of Zajef, it's not his criteria, just feel like it needs to be said with how a lot of this gets thrown around. People don't realize how much bad luck can screw you out of things that seem "standard" to others for anything that isn't actually guaranteed.
I have to say you and tgs are one of my favorite' theory crafter. Just wanted to inform you whenever you speak there is a fan sound, and when you stop speaking it's total silent the sudden changes every time you stop speaking really annoyed me. Secondly, I think hutao charge plunge is not that hard to play if you played enough, personally I am a 70%pc and 30%mobile player, and I beat all the spiral abyss with my phone, and hutan is awesome. Anyway good stuff
9:01 Unironically skill issue. Simply position yourself better instead of hugging them everytime. Use Gorou if Zhongli is too premium for you, crystallize shield is enough to give him the resistance to interruption needed to shoot his shots. You can also do level 1 CAs if can't commit so you don't lose your entire windows of dps for nothing.
Finally someone Aknowledge the control problem on mobile. Hu Tao and Childe were my first 5* 3 years ago, I am on mobile. I genuinely hated their gameplay even if they were my favourite characters. I managed to learn how to play Tartaglia but I did struggle a lot with Hu Tao. I even built her for years and get Homa for her but I just couldn’t jump cancel. Now I’m finally at peace to accept that I just do the full animations and target in a way I have to run the least. But when you think the fact that the c1 helps with the stamina, it almost feels like paying to fix a bug on mobile. She is still good tho !
As zajef said, this tier list whilegives you an idea of who does good damage…but it is indeed dependent on a lot of factors.
Nilou is much easier to build compared to all of them here. Or rather her bloom team is very low investment for the huge damage that it can dish out. SO that makes nilou better than all if that's what you are interested in.
Neuvilette with high enough investment is good enough to run solo or with subpar invested team mates(they are just extra bonus over his already massive damage)..so in that regard he is the best.
Raiden is arguably the most value out of one character pull since she can be slotted in a lot of teams for both her on-fiedl and off-field damage/electro application….in that regard raiden is the best even though building her is a little tricky(not tough, but if you arent going for her weapon and not running hyperbloom, you gotta fish for her best in slot, and then balancing her stats also isn't the easiest thing)
If you don't have Yelan and Xingqiu(double hydro core) both, Hu Tao might fall off or not feel comfy enough to play.
Xiao falls off if you don't have C6 faruzan(and if you have xianyun, c6 faruzan, furina and primordial jade winged spear..he becomes soooo good)
Navia is amazing for her front loaded damage and the fact that she can make use of the reactions unlike other geo..AND she scales off atk. So she has much more flexible team comps than lets say, Itto.
Alhaitham does a lot of damage even with a subpar build and he only really wants electro application from his teammates to do his thing, but his playstyle has a learning curve if you wanna make full use of his kit. If you can do it, and have a good fischl or raiden or even kuki, he is a good option.
Arlecchino and Chlorinde also are in the same boat, as they also employ a skill mechanic that you need to be aware of to maximize damage. If you can do that, arlecchino might be the one for you.
So yea, the tier lists are by no means the final verdict of which character is good and which is not. It ll depend from person to person. Same with akasha rankings btw. You with your top 20% Hutao might be doing more damage than me and my top 2% Hutao due to the skill difference and the investment in our supports.
Yae and Clorinde above Cyno and Lyney is a SUPER L take…
Fav sword… Took me one year to get the first one as a day one player. Now I have 2 R5 lvl 90, and once a week I'm thinking about leveling another.
The Zajef curse hit Neuvillette. RIP Spin2Win players.
As a mobile player, Hu Tao (C0, R0) is the only character which I like for personality and absolutely hate for gameplay 🥲😂
C0 clorinde does more damage than c0 raiden
My list would be (in no partocular order)
Alhaitham
Arlecchino
Ayaka
Childe
Clorinde
Hu Tao
Lyney
Navia
Neuvillette
Xiao
F2p navia is not good for now
Hu tao is near arlecchino
Xiangling tops
Yae over Lyney is literally stupid and just simp behavior. Like ain't no way someone actually thinks that 💀
And also that fact that HuTao took the spot above Navia just cause Navia apparently "needed high investment" when it's literally vice versa 💀
As a Hu Tao semi-main who plays on mobile and 300+ ping, I can do jump cancels just fine. I get 8N1CJ + burst in double hydro + Zhongli team.
And it's about to be better once I snag Xianyun on her rerun since I recently got Bennett C6 and Furina!
I know Neuvillette has mostly powercrept Ayato, but Ayato is still one of my favorite 5*s that I've pulled because he's a lot like Childe except way more flexible and you can use him anywhere. I have Neuvillette too but I only pull him out to play him in his "optimal" team in abyss and otherwise never use him.
I believe in the Zajef curse, expecting Sigewinne and Baizhu side-by-side reruns with Oops! All Favs weapon banner in 5.3 second half.
I kinda disagree with hutao being on this list
Like
She doesn't have a good f2p team
Sure we got xinqiu, but then what?
Zhongli? 5 *
kazuha? Same issue
Yelan? Same issue
You kinda just get stuck with a 4 star shielder, yunjin or something like Sucrose amber (amber without eulogy, so, even more painful)
So I don't think for a f2p new player it's worth it
And for a f2p old player, well, I'm f2p and have furina C4, does that make furina C4 viable f2p? Not really right?
Could someone explain to me what the "dedicated controller support" would be, bc I have used a controller and it showed the buttons on the screen, like he means for 3rd party? The controller I used was a xbox one controller
I dont get why nilou is so high up when she needs a 5* support in nahida
More accurate to say "Top 10 5 star Hypercarries for F2P", not strictly DPS
Oops all favs lol