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Spoilers for the 4.7 Traveler Quest “Bedtime Story.”
What are the Traveler’s true origins? Was their journeying amongst the stars with their siblings fake?
Caribert Alberich explained the Loom of Fate to us, which at its most basic level can create fake memories… but at its full potential, can weave ley lines. I think we’ve seen this weaving of ley lines before with Istaroth, Ei, and Makoto in Inazuma.
Also, this is Kaeya Impact, so there’s obviously some stuff about Kaeya.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
00:47 Bedtime Story (Quest Recap)
04:11 The Sea of Flowers
08:58 From Memories to Reality
13:49 Threads of Fate
16:26 Alberich
20:31 Closing Thoughts
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Check out my other videos!
✨ How Time (and Fate) Works in Genshin https://youtu.be/j_AuBoJXxcc?si=9BRbSWnvl61zu3WP
✨ Perinheri, Khaenri’ah, and the Auge der Verurteilung https://youtu.be/46YF14mVgDk?si=ndsn1ZgFvk6H5tC9
✨ Remuria and the Heavenly Principles https://youtu.be/rUqJh4YDThU?si=xehHIe0v54VH3QSp
✨ The Definitive Guide on Kaeya Lore https://youtu.be/9l8VuXX0wH0?si=4pvcNnWDdeXQEqHZ
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✨ “Newer Wave” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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✨ Hoyo-Mix: Quo Vadis, Whisper of Domus Aureus, Dream of White Branches, Whispers of Immensity, Unfinished Ideal, Vestige of Dahri, Towers of Afrasiab
✨ “Se Pone Caliente” by the U.S. Commercial Product Safety Commission (public domain)
The clip of the guy talking about fake memories is Michael V. Sauce in his video about the fallibility of memory.
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I call the five sinners the magi like from well.. magi
The worst part is that furina's sacrifice was useless since the heavenly principles were asleep.
There might be a schism in the Alberitch clan
If Arle is a descendant of Khaenriah and has special eyes, it's somewhat safe to assume that other descenders might have special eyes as well. Maybe it's something in their genes/blood that creates those special eyes when they're mixed with other nationalities.
As for Loom, this quest made me even more sure that the Loom is an alternative to the White Cedar. Abyss' own version of Fate.
So now I think Kaeya was created by the abyss sibling using the loom in the likeness of Caribert. To give him the life he never had. Maybe Reindottir popped in to give them tips on not creating an abyssal beast?
two thoughts I had after finishing the quest:
1. caribert only appeared in people's memories at sunset. and you know what a popular drink among khaenrians like dain and kaeya is? death after noon. also in the road not taken mv, aether wakes up at sunset while lumine wakes up at sunrise. i'm not entirely sure if this is all connected but my guess is that this could maybe allude to teyvat being trapped/suspended in its "sunset" era right before it descends into night/death.
2. i kinda reached the same conclusion about the traveler being the only one able to weave the threads of fate that you did, but from a different perspective. when the sibling said they couldn't utilize the loom of fate to its full potential yet, i thought that might be because they don't have all the tools necessary yet, and the fatui might in fact hold the other piece of the puzzle. the abyss order and the fatui basically have the same goal, to destroy the "old world" and build a new world not under the control of celestia and the heavenly principles.
i think the fatui have the means to destroy the old world by destroying irminsul. we saw from arlecchino's sq that her blood has the power to erase memories that dottore has been experimenting with, and we also saw that scene of dottore burning down irminsul in the winter night lazzo teaser. meanwhile the abyss order have the ability to create the new world with the loom of fate, because it can create new leylines but not destroy or alter existing ones.
so i think what will ultimately happen is that the abyss order and fatui will either team up or fight each other for the other faction's piece of the puzzle. but i also think the traveler is the final key to making this plan work, the final piece of the puzzle, because as you said they are a descender with a will to rival a world, but they are also a "witness" to everything that has happened in teyvat. so i believe when the old world/irminsul is destroyed, the new world will be created based on the traveler's memories of teyvat, and they will be the one using the loom of fate to reweave the threads of teyvat's fate.
I think the heavenly principles and abyss twin made a packed in where she'd striped the abyss twin of their divinity in making the gnosis while accompanying the traveller.
My theory about the sea of flowers at the end was the factor that stripped abyss sibling's status as a descender and recorded her memories in the eirmensil
Atossa is the one who got robbed
Gaslighting: Loom of Fate edition
in enka, the achievements referencing hesperus and phosphorus, the evening and morning stars respectively, alongside kairos (istaroth) makes me believe that the twins would be one of the four shades of teyvat, given that they’re clearly meant to represent the morningstars.
i wouldn’t be surprised if the person whom the twins were forced to forget was one of the moon sisters, especially if said moon sister (looking at you goblet of void) became the heavenly principles and took over from the primordial one. it would definitely explain lumine knowing how fate is currently written by the heavenly principles because of her connection to the moon sisters. another one of the shades attempting to create a loom of fate seems to make the most sense, given basically no one else in teyvat has a connection to the moon sisters
I'm starting to think that Teyvat might actually be a dream world.
Lumine and the Sinners seem to make a big deal about "the truth of the world" for Teyvat and uh… THAT would be a pretty important secret for the Primordial One to try to keep away from his precious humans.
Especially when you remember that Irminsul's roots dig down into Teyvat… from the Abyss. And roots are about providing nutrition to a tree…
Aaaaand we already have had a concrete example of dreams being used as fuel to create an entire reality.
And this would fit in with things we've seen in the quests around Deshret and Remus and Alhaitham's Story Quest…
We already knew that the Traveler's memories are prone to be tampered from Venti's opening line, where he greets the Traveler as if they had already met in the past. Now is the second time that we have evidence of their memory being altered.
18:23 – I had a different take on this, which actually adds to the "What the HECK is up with Kaeya" lore
From what I could find, it's not clear to me on how quickly the transformation (into hilichurls) is – whether it's instantaneous or happens over time (and even then – days? Weeks? Years?). But what happened to Caribert is almost certainly what happened to his mother. It may be possible that he was too young to remember what she would've looked like, and thus based his appearance entirely off his father. BUT. He would still only be a half-blooded Khaenri'an, who are speculated to have the colored-in pupils, and theoretically the real Caribert would have them. If so, who knows what that means for Kaeya – human, but also able to age normally?
THIS IS SO GOOD omg
I'm copy/pasting what I commented on another video, forgive! Your explanation of how Caribert can transcend time makes my theory work so I'm excited about that haha
"The reason we can't remember just the reunion part is because that all happened AFTER Caribert dissipated. We were then occupying an afterimage of a space in a consciousness that didn't exist anymore, so nothing that we experienced in those moments really existed either. It's a different situation from Irminsul, which can alter memories but not reality (ACTUALLY, that makes it sound like Irminsul is Celestia's version of a beta Loom of Fate, huh).
Except Caribet is the GOAT and snuck us a cheat memento before he peaced out WAHH RIP KING"
ETA: You reminded me of another of Dain's voicelines- "Defeat me, command me to step aside, show me that you are worthier than I to rescue her". Perhaps Lumine really is trapped by Teyvat/the Heavenly Principles, and Traveler will use their ability to use the Loom to manifest them (back?) into reality
The Loom of Fate is designed to weave new Ley Lines. Dottore was seen burning the Irminsul down
I'm starting to think the Fatui and the Abyss are working together temporarily to overthrow Celestia before the inevitable fight with the Abyss itself. There's just too many connected details not to make a theory
The quest said the loom of fate can't change what already happened done nor extend a ley line, but can create new lines, which is basically the power of the Herscherr of Reason from Honkai Impact 3rd, give tangibility to imagination. Welt used to be able to create a whole army from his imagination into reality.
What if the traveler is the successful case of creating a descender but people at khaenriah mistook the sibling for the traveler and at the end of their joirney the sibling realized the truth and that all the memories are just fake
I just want to know why the abyss consider the traveler as a descender but not the sibling.
It seems the sibling knows that they themself are not a descender therefor why wouldn’t the traveler be considered the same by the abyss?
It would make sense if they were both outlanders but only traveler is a descender because he has a will to change the world
However it seems like neither of them are really outlanders, at least the sibling is not. It implies tracker has different origins than the sibling ?
I wan't to point out that both in Clorinde story quest and with Cariberth we witness some small but very SUS lore of the anemo element, to be precise, the ashikai video about venti and death anemo was there when Cariberth dissapeared, and also in C. quest, we witness pretty much nods to Xiao lore and his true master with I forgot his name T-T but the hunter in Clorinde story quest, the Soul Eater has the same particles of the tatarigami/xiao burst and when they show possesing the hunter is VERY similar to Xiao beeing tied by that black goo
The way I burst out laughing when Dain said the sinner is his brother. "dO yOU beLieVe yoUr siBLinG to haVe bEtrAYed yoU?" Projecting a bit huh. Also, I now think Paimon has a sibling purely because hoyo loves handing out those apparently.
But also, I have always wondered about the ominous symbolism of inteyvat flowers to our beloved khaenriahn characters. Its just so tragic that the flower is basically doomed the moment it leaves its homeland.
I wonder if…… aether and lumine’s original home world…… is teyvat? but they just don’t recognize it?
their home world was destroyed, but lumine “belongs to THIS world”, and we know the primordial one came and basically destroyed the original teyvat and rewrote it… the twins also wanted to find a place where the flower from their now-destroyed home world grows, and at the end of lumine’s journey through the rewritten teyvat, she found the place, on this “new” world.
there are the theories that the new teyvat is a dream, and the “forbidden knowledge” that its denizens cannot understand is that the real teyvat is actually destroyed and they’re now living in a fake dream world. when apep ate deshret and absorbed his knowledge, all she could see was death and destruction and wasteland, as if she was peering outside of the dream and seeing the “truth of the world”, but it was so jarring that she cannot understand and it just causes her pain. the truth breaks down the dream, which causes all the adverse effects we’ve seen in game (withering, eleazar, etc).
if i remember correctly, lumine also refused to link up with aether because he has not yet reached the end of his journey and learned the truth that she learned at the end of hers. maybe she hates the heavenly principles and she is determined to fight this war by any means necessary, because at the end of her journey when she found the sea of inteyvats, she realized that this is actually her original home world, but the heavenly principles destroyed it and trapped everyone in a dream/samsara to cover up the truth, and to have control over everyone. so now lumine is determined to fight for her homeland, and is waiting for aether to finish his journey, learn the truth, and understand why she has “taken it this far”, in the hopes that he will see where she’s coming from and join her.
I COULD ALSO just be COMPLETELY wrong and missing a bunch of details, but that’s the theory that popped into my head when she mentioned the sea of flowers!!!!!
16:26 i really thought that this was gonna be the video where kaeya was mot mention, how foolish of me
I don't know why no one is talking about the elephant in the room. TRAVELLER is the LOOM OF FATE!! The MC is the one who will re-weave the threads of all fate. Can't you see, he is the one who changes every story inside the game, he is always there. It's just that the timeline of the events is f*cked up right now that's why I can't give a definitive and conclusive evidence but I am sure now Traveller is the loom of fate, and they are originally from inside this world, they are not really an outsider/alien, they are part of the story and they aren't just dragged by the heavenly principles. They are part of the story to begin with.
Edit: Now the question is where did they get the memories of travelling from world to world? 🤔🤔🤔
Becuase you see, Lumine says she already found the place where that flower is in full bloom and is like a garden, but that flower can only bloom in their homeland. Khaenriah is their home.
ok ok ok….hear me out…the travelers are from teyvat…they're 'dragons' who fled when the primordial one attacked and have been travelling ever since, so long they never saw their world get destroyed and turned into teyvat. So when they found it, it was new to them and just so happened to have the inteyvat growing there. @_@
Journey amongst the stars could be a reference to dreaming just laying in the sun peacefully together dreaming of adventures they would have together
It really became lore spores vs lore sauce…… Nuclear Drama!!!