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Engine gives +7.2(basically a free win for white) before knight takes pawn. Maybe it implies that Signora’s death isn’t meaningless and Shogun killing signora is a blunder?
The Fatui thinks that Ei is the one who killed Signora, but she died because she LOST the duel to the Traveler, so in technicallity Traveler is the one who killed Signora. Also it doesn't seem like they know Childe fought the Traveler and they both tied, means that there is someone else who can rival the power of the Harbingers and they don't even know about it.
I was about to comment my opinion but someone already posted my thoughts here, so even if Fatui are winning, they have no idea that there's unknown piece in this game of chess that is the Traveler, this piece being unknown can actually make a difference in this game depending on whose side he's playing on.
I suppose the question I have is does this board mean that the four other gnoses (gnosi? gnosises?) are meant to be pawns and/or the white king, or do they represent other pieces that have already been removed from the board? And what does it mean that Venti and Zhongli are still on the board even though their gnoses have been taken? And where do the twins fit in all this? I'm intrigued.
just a cool detail is that Pierro is playing the chess game AGAINST the Tsaritsa, he moves his piece with his hand and the Tsaritsa moves the white horsey with her cryo magic. 🙂
Well ofc, otherwise there'd be no story when we get to Snezhnaya. At least we are slowing them the f*** down, and inflicting massive costs against the Fatui while we're at it. It'd be definitely be more fun to topple down whatever grand scheme the Tsaritsa is cooking up when it's all about to bear fruit, whether it's by me or Celestia.
interestingly, we don't know how much control Celestia actually has on the archons, or if they even have any. so most of the moves cannot be even done
I think somehow this chessboard is ment to confuse us. Whites have 3 archon pieces we have seen and 4 pawns that potentially will be replaced by other 4 gnosis.
I don't think black pieces represent fatui. They are the enemies fatui are fighting against and they need other gnosis on whites side to be able to change the tides. Trailer makes us think that defeated pawns are fatui memebers, but there is already two pawns shown that are out of the game. We only know of Signora's death which would've been the third pawn taken out. So either fatui had memebers that died long ago, or pieces don't match fatui memebers.
I am more inclined to think chessboard represents fatui as whites fighting whayever black pieces represent.
Also if white pieces where traveller and archons then it doesn't make sence to have Venti's, Zhongli's and Ei's pieces on board since they've already given up their gnosis so they should be out of the fight against fatui. Piero himself tell that the games main point isn't fight till checkmate, fatui want all the pieces for themselves.
I think they will get all gnosis to fight against black pieces that are some enemies with don't have clear idea of yet.
That's just my thoughts. Maybe some parts are wrong but I think there is some logic behind this.
the black pawn at d7(Scaramouche) disappeared from the board game. this is the cause why the white knight at d6(Raiden Shogun) can capturing the black pawn at f7(Signora).
unless,,
iirc it also explained in the trailer that "this fatui chess" game have different rule when checkmating the king isn't the win condition
Celestia : Flipped the board
Abyss : Spectating
Yet they doing a "cheating move" by saying that "checkmate is not the end for this game of chess"
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It's a great analysis. The only problems i foresee is that, if the black is the Fatui, then does that also includes the Abyss working with them? Because then having a game mimic reality only holds true if theres only two opposing sides on the board. If the Abyss is separate, and or outside forces like the Traveler decides to remain independent or chooses opposition to the Fatui, the board is then less representative .
My personal prediction is this:
We have Scaramouche in Sumeru, who is hunted by Childe.
At the same time one of Dottores clones is experimenting with something in Sumeru as well.
It is possible that Dottore is controling Scaramouche to perform his experiment in blasphemy and that the fatui boss of sumeru will be Scaramouche and Dottore at the same time, with the Traveler freeing Scara from mindcontrol and him reluctantly siding with Traveler for Revenge. Than Childe shows up, agreeing to let Scara leave alive in exchange for the Gnosis.
As for the other Harbingers:
Sandrone is fatui boss in Fontaine, who is better suited to pull strings behind a maskerade than a puppeteer?
Capitano is fatui boss in Natlan, like a general marching his army into the nation of war.
Pierro or Columbina is the final fatui boss when we walk into the Cryo Archons palace.
Arlecchino is basicly like Raven from Honkai making her very likely to be playable. Even same VA as far as i know.
Pantalone could see the Traveler as an important piece in his pesonal agenda, siding with him for profit.
As for Pulcinella … no idea and Signora is confirmed dead.
And we know that having a harbinger as boss and them be playable does not cancel each other out.
I've seen someone on Twitter mention that it resembles a real game between Kasparov and Deep Blue, the first one ever where the machine beats an human being.
Many pieces are in the same positions, but we're not really there I'd say… so I guess they just took inspiration 🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Kasparov,_1996,_Game_1
random but I'm so proud I understood what u were doing since I also sometimes play chess HAHAHAHHHAHHA
Fatui's goal is to take authority from the Gods much like Kratos and I'm all for it. Even if they won't win since they're "evil", it's harder to sympathize with the almighty invulnerable gods than some underdogs, even if they're painted as "evil"
People are mad at me for saying that Zhongli's Gnosis belongs to white piece. Jesus…..
Instead of Nxc2, white's queen could've taken the knight on c7 while still being able to defend black Qh1+ with Ng2, which is a winning position for white according to stockfish. So basically, killing Signora is what led to Celestia's downfall.
It hurts my chess player feelings when she says horsey instead of knight.But it''s fine lol
the fatui have ten chess pieces on the board, at one per harbinger minus scaramouche and signora, with the tsaritsa as the king. I’d assume ranks 9, 10, and 11 are the pawns, pierro is the queen(?) or the player (meaning scara is still on the board) as they are both research-focused, sandrone and dottore are probably the same piece. pulchinella could be a bishop, along with another politically oriented harbinger. knights are probably stronger fighters, so maybe capitano? one might be scaramouche seeing as the shogun had a knight and now scara has it. as for the rook, i’m completely lost, but this could be sandrone and dottore’s piece.
but isn't the white horse the raider shogun since in the trailer the white horse killed signoras piece so are the coming after the raider or are they coming after scara
Okay, I actually got a little excited because I want to see if the Fatui will actually be able to go up against celestia
Also, I'm kind of a Tsaritsa simp so-
Aaah right, I forgot Venti was a Queen not a King, when I transcribed this board, I had both the king and queen swapped on both sides lol
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and i love how genshin is using it as well, im not the most smartest at chess but i am somewhat decent or do i dare say good, and this analysis is very interesting and good inside
"It is not completely lost but at the same time it is forced checkmate" 🧐
I noticed something while looking through some things, that I thought I’d just write here to get my thoughts out.
So this game of chess seems to be ongoing because there are multiple pieces on the board that are not present, and can be seen outside of the playing field. But that leaves the question of, how did these pieces fit into the story?
We already have a pretty solid idea about one of the knights being the electro archon, so what about the 2 bishops? I’m guessing these would both be the dendro & Cryo archons since they both possess divine knowledge of sorts, but both seem to be off the board alongside the second rook, ( most likely the hydro archon,) and the 2nd knight, ( most likely the pyro archon, ) which brings up a lot of questions, especially since both sides are missing the same pieces, bar the pawn (signora) that was just taken.
So if these pieces have supposedly been captured already, does that mean that the next 3 archons gnosis are already taken? Or will they be put on the board as they’re retrieved? Also, Zhongli’s gnosis has a black cover, while Venti’s is white. Does this mean that not all the archons are on the same side? And if that’s the case, then who do the other pieces represent? We know that some of the black pawns are harbingers, but who are the white pawns?
It honestly makes me wonder if this game of chess is actually going to follow the typical rules of the game, or maybe there’s something we’re missing here? IDK, I just wanted to dump my thoughts out. I know technically that this is more of a chess analysis than a lore analysis, but I can’t help but think of the lore implications here.
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I'm no chess expert, but at 2:40, can the white king not take the black pawn? In that sequence of events, then the obvious move for the black side is black rook will either take the white horse or the white rook. Which will result in the white side having a non-check turn, allowing the white queen to take the black horse, freeing herself. So the white side then is left with a free queen and a rook/knight instead of a stuck queen and a rook.. Isnt that a more beneficial position? EDIT – Nvm.. I just realized that the black queen could take the white horse instead of the black rook moving, and its moot then anyways… :'D
My theory after this trailer is herbenzers will successfully get all the 6 gnosis n when they will think that its time for final step towards victory thats the time abyss order reveals there original plan that osial was never their terget it was alwys been tsaritza remember loom of fate operation
For now we only know three archons, which in the table are figures, if the black pawn is reppresenting Signora then the white knight, which is a figure, is Raiden Shogun. What i am trying to say is that maybe the 4 white pawns are representing the other 4 archons, if that wasnt true that would mean that the other archons are dead because they are not in the chessboard, I'm thinking that there's a possibility that white pawns may turn into figures( maybe when their gnosis is stolen, which is a contradiction because they would supposedly became weaker but they become figures so stronger) so maybe there are pieces that haven't entered the game yet in both sides, if that's the case the match is far gone to be ended. I also quote sure about the identity of archon chess representation, if you see elemental slimes, there are like one caracteristic to a couple of slimes, example: geo and cryo slimes have "helmets" we know that Zhongli represent a rook in the same way Tsaritsa, dendro and electro have on the top of their "head" this little things Raiden is a Knight so can be Kusanali, three are remaining Venti is the Queen so he is unique, by the exclusion bishops are Pyro and Hydro Archon their slimes have little horns.
In the conclusion if my theory about the missing chess pieces can be true, that makes the next move more unpredictable or the appearance of a new piece will block the black queen idk.
Sorry for my English I'm still learning 🙂
It's possible that i wrote something dumb but this scheme works in my mind.
''Checkmate is not where the game ends''
Me not knowing anything about chess be like: ah yes interesting 🤔🧐 who was Celestia Chess piece again?
So Venti should have killed a harbinger instead 👀 hahahaha jk
It seemed to me that the white piece was controlled by a frost like effect so I assumed he was probably playing against the tsaritsa for some reason, the analogy of Signora's fly landing on the taken piece though was great and did make me think of Celestia's role
Thing is white isnt celestia nor is black fatui, theyre not either. This just means that tsaritsa is losing against pierro