i think it’s a way to make sure they can easily be powercrept. once Snezhnaya comes out and new OP supports come out, Mavuika won’t be able to use any of them, actively pushing her out of the meta
Natlan is the worst thing that happened to Genshin in every single area. Combat, exploration, story, character diversity (1 limited dude all year? really?), characterisation, even world quests. I liked and whaled on Genshin until Arlecchino. Two C6 characters, a bunch C2. Had 100% everywhere, 99% of the achievements, did all the story, read nearly every text line in the game. Now I've dropped it. The degree to which it plummetted is staggering.
Holy doom post Batman. The only other Natlan character I have is Xilonen and Kachina. Xilonen by herself can almost charge Mavuika’s ult to max instantly. And for what it does charge, her ult is still a nuke. Hell, even Kachina can fill Mavuika’s ult enough to use it after a full rotation, and yes, it still hits like a truck. I’m not glazing Hoyo, god knows there’s things they should fix. But on a scale of 1-10, this situation is a 3 at most. Useless without her team, holy shit what people will say to be the opposition
Natlan's story was soo ass thst i quit, also mihoyo puting both five stars on the fist half was soo ass. (I lost my 50/50 on xilonen, and pretty much saved up 168 pulls for her and citlai, i got mavuika but she's pretty much useless without other natlan characters and I'm not gonna grind for citlai ;-;)
I love genshin so much so seeing how the characters kits are designed and that we'll likely be stuck outside of Snezhnaya for ANOTHER year, just makes me sad.
It has happened in honkai impact 3rd with HoO, Hofi and PE durandal, spa rita release but HoO and Spa were given for free for doing story or certain quest so I guess I am splitting hair with this info
Only actively pulled Natlan 5☆ characters are Kinich and Xilonen, because I collect male and Geo characters. Don't care for the others and Natlan also just feels meh to me. Heard Ifa gonna be a 4☆ and Capitano… well the no at the end of the name isn't there for no reason I guess. I haven't done the last Archon quests yet either, but not motivated.
Never was a meta player tbh and never gonna be one, so the double banner with new characters don't bother me.
It's just sad that the developer really show they don't care about Genshin itself and just make bad things with the characters.
natlan is isolated in not only lore but also game mechanics and that makes me very sad as someone who has been since 1.2. natlan characters are so restricting that it takes away from some of the really fun parts of the game like team building. Natlan was soooooo interesting to me lore wise with the dragons, the war and the archon but nope ;–; we got a perfect characters with some "flaws" that aren't really flaws. Looking at you mavuika.
I just wanna say that leakers didnt say we ll be staying in natlan , they said that we ll wont be going to shnezhnaya yet and instead we ll be getting all missing sub regions like dornman port blackcliff forge and mont esus. And personally while on one hand its " idgaf about anything give me shnezhnaya already " on the other hand it is probably the best decision they could have made , since it ll probably be when they close all the sub plots like reviving durin , burning irminsul and project stuzha so that we can actually fully focus on shnezhnaya when we get there instead of getting side tracked after we finish shnezhnaya archon quest
Yeah, it is annoying when you need to fuckin pull citlali for xilonen, and it's even more ANNOYING that the abbys have papilla the last TWO patch! Though, mavuika kit is one of the things mihoyo can do to avoid powercreep cause there's only 2 options: Powercrept the fuck out of old character cause they're starting to run out of gimmicks to do Or Make the dps like mavuika, powerful but niche so you need a lot of investment to outperform the old dps by a lot, but if you don't have the characters they need, it won't perform that much better
Immediately as I heard that new characters have this "Nightsoul" thing, I was worried. And my worries were (unfortunately) confirmed.
When I saw it, that it's basically "infusion, but Natlan-character-locked", I immediately thought that they are going to sell new units based on that or suit content to it. It's not even a unique gimmick. "Nightsoul state" is just infusion, "Nightsoul-aligned damage" is just elemental damage coming from basic/skill/ult.
If it worked as an infusion, not only would new characters obviously benefit from it, but old characters (like Diluc or Keqing) or infusers (like Chongyun on Candace) would get an indirect buff, like how healers got a buff from Furina. It could have been done right, but it was done in a shitty way instead, by strictly locking it to Natlan characters. And mockingly, Mavuika has a part of passive where she gains stacks from normal attacks – but it's such a pitiful amount that it's like rubbing salt in the wound.
That, paired with ridiculously awful strategy of mobility locking and "advertising" (let's be honest, saurians are cool, but they feel awful to manouver and explore with, so they work more as advertisements for characters than actual mobility tools), and pretty bad story, makes Natlan probably the worst region released so far. It's really damn bad and sad to see. Although, at least it works as an advertisement for Rinascita in Wuthering Waves, so maybe with competition rising, Genshin will finally do some actual good changes instead of plunging down a hole of greed.
What buffles me the most is after 4 years we have only 3 characters in the game right now. Arlechinno, Mavuika and Neuvillette. 2 of them are pyro dps which is this the most saturated role in the game. All the rest are their dedicated supports or irrelevant.
All of this discussion about Mavuika has become mired in feelscrafting. She is objectively the best DPS in the game and a quite good support that replaces xiangling in all but a few teams that are not worth talking about. She is an Archon, that means her constellations were always gonna be busted and very good to pull. At C2 she becomes an even crazier dps, a very useful support for most teams and is entirely independent from natlan units. But somehow because her C0 has some restrictions on it that dont even matter much(just like the previous 3 Archons) she is a skip and a bad unit. Furina at C0 and Furina at C2 are very different characters but most people still pulled her C2.
Yet somehow you hear about people skipping multiple patches saving for her and then not getting the cons.
This is peak Western take right here 😂
It’s not another year of Nathan, it’s just a part of snezhnaya that’s not the main story
😢😢
i think it’s a way to make sure they can easily be powercrept. once Snezhnaya comes out and new OP supports come out, Mavuika won’t be able to use any of them, actively pushing her out of the meta
I loved natlan btw and i don’t understand this 2sec bike thing i literally have 100% uptime on it personally 🤷🏻
Natlan is the worst thing that happened to Genshin in every single area. Combat, exploration, story, character diversity (1 limited dude all year? really?), characterisation, even world quests.
I liked and whaled on Genshin until Arlecchino. Two C6 characters, a bunch C2. Had 100% everywhere, 99% of the achievements, did all the story, read nearly every text line in the game. Now I've dropped it. The degree to which it plummetted is staggering.
I keep hearing shitlali and I don't know whether it's intentional or not
Holy doom post Batman.
The only other Natlan character I have is Xilonen and Kachina. Xilonen by herself can almost charge Mavuika’s ult to max instantly. And for what it does charge, her ult is still a nuke. Hell, even Kachina can fill Mavuika’s ult enough to use it after a full rotation, and yes, it still hits like a truck. I’m not glazing Hoyo, god knows there’s things they should fix. But on a scale of 1-10, this situation is a 3 at most.
Useless without her team, holy shit what people will say to be the opposition
Those of you who pulled Mavu as a F2P players without Nathlan characters. Here is the best F2P team as per my experiment
Mavu, Bennett C4+, Diona C4+, Kachina / Ororon.
Natlan's story was soo ass thst i quit, also mihoyo puting both five stars on the fist half was soo ass. (I lost my 50/50 on xilonen, and pretty much saved up 168 pulls for her and citlai, i got mavuika but she's pretty much useless without other natlan characters and I'm not gonna grind for citlai ;-;)
Chit-lati?
I love genshin so much so seeing how the characters kits are designed and that we'll likely be stuck outside of Snezhnaya for ANOTHER year, just makes me sad.
It has happened in honkai impact 3rd with HoO, Hofi and PE durandal, spa rita release but HoO and Spa were given for free for doing story or certain quest so I guess I am splitting hair with this info
Plenty of completely functional teams for Mavuika without any Natlan characters, just saying
Only actively pulled Natlan 5☆ characters are Kinich and Xilonen, because I collect male and Geo characters.
Don't care for the others and Natlan also just feels meh to me.
Heard Ifa gonna be a 4☆ and Capitano… well the no at the end of the name isn't there for no reason I guess.
I haven't done the last Archon quests yet either, but not motivated.
Never was a meta player tbh and never gonna be one, so the double banner with new characters don't bother me.
It's just sad that the developer really show they don't care about Genshin itself and just make bad things with the characters.
God I hate Natlan..
natlan is isolated in not only lore but also game mechanics and that makes me very sad as someone who has been since 1.2. natlan characters are so restricting that it takes away from some of the really fun parts of the game like team building. Natlan was soooooo interesting to me lore wise with the dragons, the war and the archon but nope ;–; we got a perfect characters with some "flaws" that aren't really flaws. Looking at you mavuika.
I just wanna say that leakers didnt say we ll be staying in natlan , they said that we ll wont be going to shnezhnaya yet and instead we ll be getting all missing sub regions like dornman port blackcliff forge and mont esus. And personally while on one hand its " idgaf about anything give me shnezhnaya already " on the other hand it is probably the best decision they could have made , since it ll probably be when they close all the sub plots like reviving durin , burning irminsul and project stuzha so that we can actually fully focus on shnezhnaya when we get there instead of getting side tracked after we finish shnezhnaya archon quest
I would like to see you on other games.
What about star rail ? 🌝
why does the gameplay look like a tiktok edit
YESSSS HES BACK
Yeah, it is annoying when you need to fuckin pull citlali for xilonen, and it's even more ANNOYING that the abbys have papilla the last TWO patch!
Though, mavuika kit is one of the things mihoyo can do to avoid powercreep cause there's only 2 options:
Powercrept the fuck out of old character cause they're starting to run out of gimmicks to do
Or
Make the dps like mavuika, powerful but niche so you need a lot of investment to outperform the old dps by a lot, but if you don't have the characters they need, it won't perform that much better
Hoyoverse took "in natlan, no one fight alone" too seriously
Mmh I love to see Natlan hate✨😌
Immediately as I heard that new characters have this "Nightsoul" thing, I was worried. And my worries were (unfortunately) confirmed.
When I saw it, that it's basically "infusion, but Natlan-character-locked", I immediately thought that they are going to sell new units based on that or suit content to it. It's not even a unique gimmick. "Nightsoul state" is just infusion, "Nightsoul-aligned damage" is just elemental damage coming from basic/skill/ult.
If it worked as an infusion, not only would new characters obviously benefit from it, but old characters (like Diluc or Keqing) or infusers (like Chongyun on Candace) would get an indirect buff, like how healers got a buff from Furina. It could have been done right, but it was done in a shitty way instead, by strictly locking it to Natlan characters. And mockingly, Mavuika has a part of passive where she gains stacks from normal attacks – but it's such a pitiful amount that it's like rubbing salt in the wound.
That, paired with ridiculously awful strategy of mobility locking and "advertising" (let's be honest, saurians are cool, but they feel awful to manouver and explore with, so they work more as advertisements for characters than actual mobility tools), and pretty bad story, makes Natlan probably the worst region released so far. It's really damn bad and sad to see. Although, at least it works as an advertisement for Rinascita in Wuthering Waves, so maybe with competition rising, Genshin will finally do some actual good changes instead of plunging down a hole of greed.
the abyss rotation is absolute dogshit in natlan's versions especially this one.
Yet another w vid
What buffles me the most is after 4 years we have only 3 characters in the game right now. Arlechinno, Mavuika and Neuvillette. 2 of them are pyro dps which is this the most saturated role in the game. All the rest are their dedicated supports or irrelevant.
All of this discussion about Mavuika has become mired in feelscrafting. She is objectively the best DPS in the game and a quite good support that replaces xiangling in all but a few teams that are not worth talking about.
She is an Archon, that means her constellations were always gonna be busted and very good to pull.
At C2 she becomes an even crazier dps, a very useful support for most teams and is entirely independent from natlan units.
But somehow because her C0 has some restrictions on it that dont even matter much(just like the previous 3 Archons) she is a skip and a bad unit.
Furina at C0 and Furina at C2 are very different characters but most people still pulled her C2.
Yet somehow you hear about people skipping multiple patches saving for her and then not getting the cons.
It's sad, the only Natlan characters you'll have if you don't pull on banners is a free Kachina and a weaker Mauvika in Pyro Traveler.
ZZZ had a double release banner this patch but they ran for it's entirety
I haven't played often since natlan came out and it's because of how still the game feels and I Only pulled for xilonen
I’m slowly starting to be glad that I lost Mavuika’s 50/50 to Mona ;-;