took some inspiration from @Ashikai
Time Stamp:
0:00 The Harbingers Ranking
1:25 The Delusion
2:08 Diluc’s Outfit
2:52 The Mask
3:11 Harbingers Constellations
7:03 Brighella
7:34 Why is the 10th never talked about?
8:50 Rebunking the theory
Tags:
#genshin #genshinimpactlore #genshinimpacttheory #genshintheory #genshinlore #genshinimpact #diluc #dilucragnvindr #crepus #fatui #fatuiharbingers #arlecchino #pierro #childe #tartaglia #kaeya #delusion #capitano #columbina #sandrone #pulcinella #pantalone #brighella #dottore #scaramouche #wanderer #hatguy #signora #lasignora
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I sense a Diluc story quest act 2
Just a theory, no facts behind it.
Crepus did not start dawn winery, Dawn winery has been owned by the Ragnvindr "for several generations" (qoute from wiki page).
The least believable part about the theory for me is the when and why Crepus supposedly became a Harbinger.
In fact let me make a case for Diluc being a Fatui- if unknowingly (and not a Harbinger). I find it very hard to believe that several Harbingers pursuing him after laying waste to their bases all over Teyvat would let him live. Like leave him to die and not make sure he actually does. That's like super sloppy why would they do that? So, the secret organisation that picked him up after? The Fatui. pulling a scam on Diluc who is too delirious to tell at first and trusts them already later on. Besides, the organoisation is super sketchy already, I doubt the Fatui would allow them in Snezhnaya, not enough to pick up Diluc, whom, if they actually exists for ssure any Harbinger would have been aware of a party following them following Diluc.
That one aside, I wonder what Pierro could have offered Crepus for joining, because he gave every Harbinger something in exchange for their loyalty, so I wonder what that could have been (and if it would have been enough to sway Crepus)
Arlechinno got confirmed 4rth ahahahahah ppl actually thought Capitano is 4
diluc was the missing harbinger.. it was mentioned in the lore that he joined the fatui, and he has an actual delusion, the delusion his father had was fake (and given to him by abyss mages, just that fact proves his dad wasnt a harbinger.
Bro Diluc's burst is Harbinger of Dawn 😮
2:29 this is also on arlechinos back
I never thought about this but it actually makes a lot of sense
At this point, it genuinely makes sense to why he had the Delusion
I kinda support this theory. Like how did Master Crepus managed to get a powerful Delusion?
A Delusion that differs from others from Fatui agents. Judging by the looks of it, it seems that it wields with the power of Abyss.
it all makes sense now I found it weird how Arlechino was revealed as the 4th we thought that Capitano is either 2nd(Before Il Detore's reveal) or 4th and Pierro as 1st but now we can confirm that Capitano is 1st and that we're missing a 10th(also know there was also a theory about this before but now it's confirmed)
Shit, Capitano is secretly Jesus, OMG!
If even childe can't use his full delusion for more than 10 seconds without needing a long rest (his story quest), then using it for a full battle and fighting one of the most powerful monsters, who was centuries old AND HOLDING IT OFF would be enough to kill him. Remember that they had to send the second harbinger to deal with it.
The connections between the three nails and Capitano, or the Healing Hand and Pulcinella are too strenuous. Because the healing hand is also a symbol from Hopi people in North America, it is more likely to be a character from a region associated with this culture, which might be Natlan (Natlan is probably another multicultural melting pot like Sumeru). Pulcinella doesn't look like he belong to Natlan at all. My theory is that the Healing either belongs to a missing 10th harbinger, or to Capitano (whose origin is currently unknown).
As for the Hand of Glory constellation, given how much fire and hand are associated with Arlecchino, I'm more inclined to believe it would be her constellation instead. One problem is that it would leave the crying mask constellation and it fits no one better than Pierro. But the position on the wheel seems a bit too 'insignificant' for the director of the fatui, plus I don't think his constellation will be in the wheel given how he's likely not counted among the 11 ranked harbinger. Of course, there is a chance that the crying mask constellation belongs to the missing 10th harbinger.
imagine the story like batman begin where bruce were once affiliate with ra's al gul and crepus affiliate with the fatui once
It's cool to see an updated version of this theory. I definitely think it holds more weight now. There's just too many plot points regarding Diluc's family to ignore.
Something that might be worth considering is looking at the role that Childe fills for the Harbingers. If I recall, the Stutterer archetype is viewed as a joke character; not someone who is meant to be taken seriously. For the Harbingers, I view Childe as effectively being their scapegoat. He's meant to do the ground work while the higher ranks actually move the pieces around proverbial chess board. Perhaps he was inducted as the 11th seat in order to fulfill the role left empty by the theorized, disgraced 10th seat?
With regards to the constellations, Arlecchino having the crying mask instead can be justified. From I recall hearing and reading, the Harlequin and the Jester archetypes in the Comedia are viewed as a kind of counterpart. So if the rumors are true and she is playable we can get more confirmation by looking at her Constellation. Given the gem of the casing on her back has the Pyro symbol on it rather than the Fatui symbol, I'm more inclined to think she will be playable after all.
chilled who ?
If pierro isn't number 1
Then this theory is most likely true
"now imagine the look on Diluc's face when he learns his father was a fatui harbinger, and his mother a hexenzirkel witch"… dude sounds like an anime protagonist, my travel is beginning to sweat profusely.
Faathui
I am not surprised that the constellation of Jesus belongs to Capitano, he is constantly praised and everyone is fanatical about him, he is perfect and magnificent as Jesus.
Along with his mother being a witch I was a bit skeptical about Crepus being a harbinger however it definitely explains a lot. If he only got it from someone then he technically shouldn't know how to use it so effectively, and he does have a possible motive to join the fatui. Maybe when he was a teen he tried to become a knight but much like Noelle is stuck being with the knights but not a knight, Crepus probably fell short.
Being from a famous family that most likely fought a god and aided in a rebellion, he felt frustrated at his lack of ability and not being granted a vision so he sought other ways to gain power. But maybe taking power from gods wasn't something he wanted to do and went back to Mond to inherit the business. (Or learning the truth of the world made him walk away)
Looking at the conversation between him and Diluc before Ursa attacked makes me wonder if he came to conclusion about himself in that moment, perhaps Diluc helped him out a lot more then he realizes. Which just makes the moment even more sad.
I wonder if the Devs are teasing at this possibility as well, considering that there is a 3* Sword called “Harbinger of Dawn”
I think brighella could even be the previous knave as he was portrayed as the shrewd servant
Just my thoughts what if the hand of glory is actually arlecchino's since childe mentioned how she can turn her back towards them at any given time i feel like the mask with the tear on the left could be the zanni mask?
make sense why Jester trust him enough to let his child be with Diluc
6th is now also unknown lol!
My previous theory about the 10th harbinger was that Capitano was the 10th, but thanks to some A-hole exposing me to "forbidden knowledge" about fatui ranks my new theory is that the 10th harbinger is from Natlan and as people from Natlan almost never leave unless it's by force, they simply are still in Natlan. The reason why they weren't mentioned in the Winter Night's Lazzo trailer like Scaramouche was, is because the 10th isn't AWOL like Scara was at that point in time. Even if Dottore knew where Scara was, it was clear Capitano (who was the one to ask) and the others didn't know where he was.
your wrong pierro is the first harbinger lol
captiano is The 4th lol
and Kave was The 10th harbinger 😂 your info sucs
This theory will definitely come true
Kim, what is your top 5 favorite harbingers?
People don't realize that being a fatui harbinger means that you are an overpowered character. It also means that you have influence like Pulcinellla I am guessing, and Pantalone, who is very rich and like you said the owner of the Northland Bank. Maybe some of the fatui harbingers that are higher on the list are that high because of they have more than just one of the 3: power, influence, and money. For example arlecchino has influence, (the house of hearth) which also gives her money, and she's ranked under damselette which could mean she also has power to an extent. Maybe some of them are ranked lower because they only have power or money or influence but you could debunk what I said easily
I mean if you really consider for a minute crepus could have been to weak and joined the fatui out of resentment but then when he has a son he realized his mistake and quit
kind of stupid theory. i find it hard to believe that a harbinger died from using delusion ONCE,
even teppei (and other watatsumi soldiers) was able to use delusion multiple times before dying of old age.
Watch Diluc, Kaeya, Venti and Dvalin have a cameo in Fontaine or something (crazy idea). Plus Wrio could be part of Diluc's underground network.
I feel like there is sooooo much upcoming since it makes so much sense as to why the knights of Favonius begged diluc to not make his father's death and the reason uknown to the public . I think the reason why they didn't wish to have crypus be a harbinger is probably cuz of Biased reasons and probably cuz of Signora and her plan to see mondstadt go into a loss and Crypus was a very jolly person who dud nothing but help nondtadt and his winery was the huge reason for mondtadt's success and also that Tsaritsa does seem to have a beef with venti which could possibly mean death of crypus
( also all delusions are controlled personally by Tsaritsa and Pantalone themselves which could possible mean it was on purpose )
Oh shit now knave and childe is going to betray if traveler make them redeems or in some ways dottore have some schem to harm them who knows i hope not
If i remember the knave protect lyney from using delusions she know that dottore whould use that i do think that she doesn't need delusion but i don't know my only concern is childe
Given to the fact that arlecchino’s constellation is the hand of glory that means that, if he was a memeber, his constellation was the drama mask, or the two faced constellation. That could still imply he betrayed the fatui
The 10th is the sibling.
Great video but i wanted to point out that capitanos constellation might rather be the one in the north of the circle as its literally the sign he has on his helmet and on his shoulder wear but im not completeley sue
I don't think he Is a fatui because he was killed by One
Maybe the previous knave was the no.10
I don't know ☠️
And he was just the former harbinger
DID I PREDICT THE FUTURE?? I WROTE A SELF INSERT FANFIC LAST YEAR WHERE THE READER WAS FATUI AND THEIR FATUI NAME WAS BRIGHELLA 😭😭😭
Childe's voiceline doesn't have past tense in calling Pierro a Harbinger in CN, he just says Pierro is the first harbinger
Childe saying Capitano is too high ranked to talk to him also doesn't confirm he's 1st, since we dont know if that distinction was a military ranking or harbinger ranking
and we know Childe can have decent enough communication with rank 4 of the harbingers, so it doesn't seem like ranking within the harbingers affects their ability to communicate.
He has to be a harbinger, because how the heck he has a DELUSION.
Also why at 4:24 the harbinger order changed, I thought it would be a globus crociger, but it's Regrator's symbol.
This is actually one of the most believable theories I have seen so far
Correct me if im wrong, but how can Crepus and Varka know each other, didn’t varka died like 1000 years ago?