Bruh yea I have a friend that always gets super hyped nuking for big dmg, but I never thought about what thier overall dps (damage per second) would be. I should probably mention that to them, thanks!
I don't need my characters to do half a million my strongest two is my Kaeya who does 4000-6000 with normal attacks (like 8000-12000 with crits) & like 12000 with skill (18000 critting), & my Wanderer who does like 8000-10000 per hit. Tbh I don't think the game would be as fun if my characters were too strong.
Characters have strengths beyond the abyss. When it comes to all of Genshin, ease of travel, exploration bonuses, crafting bonuses, open world farming, etc. each character can come out on top.
Perfect example is Dehya, she has horrible stats and takes basically a year's salary of money to make her usable in abyss, but when it comes to Fontaine's underwater combat or just afk farming she's very useful for those attributes.
Ofc enjoy Spiral Abyss, but we all know there's more to the game than that.
Even though nukes start to feel clunky to preform in certain cases its still not useless to ignore since with the right setup you can skip or trigger certain enemy attacks or phases earlier making some fights faster or easier to do. though some dps teams are less resource intensive since you dont have to focus on the perfect stats that a nuke team needs
I'm more than happy about my Heizou Teams. I never have trouble with Abyss. Each run is smoothly and I try new teams around him all the time. But I would never recommend others to build him, unless they are at least a little bit dedicated about him. I know how hard it was for me to get this far and that he may be nothing more than a disappointment for those who don't want to put a decent amount of time and ressources into him. Meanwhile I can't recommend enough to go for chars like Raiden, Nahida or Yelan, even though I have neither of them on my own account. They are just too good units in the game!
I agree on this so much. I personally remember being really desperate for any event characters just bc they're "strong" and better than standard ( i had only Keqing and Qiqi at the time ) so when i have lost 50/50 on keqinq i moved on asia just to begin a new game, relax and maybe do something else. I didn't know what this " what else " was, before i got Zhongli on asia. I went there, to begin a new game just to validate 4* characters and realise how much of a good they also can be. And since then i moved on Europe again. I was ready to love the characters i have, and mained all the most boring for other people characters: Lisa, Traveller, Raizor, Bennet.. Many would not want to main them since they're not event banner characters or " strong " but i mained them and trust me, they also can get to really high numbers) I have Baizhu now and Wanderer, maybe i'll also get Venti the Bard, who knows, but i wanted to say that even tho Wanderer is good for damaging and destroying everything he sees, and Baizhu is wonderful for healing your whole team in less then a minute, im pretty sure my bennet could replace them both if i'd never get them
Most people also don't realize that the dps shown on the screen are largely p2p too and end up deluding themselves with what they see, thinking that they will get the same damage (here I talk more about those that are f2p)
No one cares as long as you clear the spiral abyss if someone is proud of their unit and its not "up to someone elses standard its not rly healthy to bring them down by saying their wrong makes no sense why we gotta be negative
people just completely scratched the important chunk of the video and started saying meta doesn’t matter he was not talking about that, he was talking about the optimal damage to consider a team “strong”, not saying you HAVE to do this or else you’re not playing it right.
Nah, I think my 150K CAs on Hu Tao are pretty strong. Same with my 30K vapes on Kokomi's NAs (only 50% of them due to ICD, but even the 13K on the other ones is pretty great, since I do not have to rely on luck).
I really don't care is someone is strong or weak, people struggle with Meta comps while others are completely destroying abyss with an Amber Bnuuy. Strength comes from your knowledge of the game knowing how everything works. Basically Genshin EGT (Elemental Gauge Theory) is a wonderful way to know how the elements properly work and how to use reactions effectively and efficiently. Second A character is only as good as you make them, including their Artifacts, Level, Team comps and Weapon. When you know how to play your character correctly (for me it's Amber) You can easily be beating all content in the game. (Or spend $15000 and it don't matter)
Though as said this is a game where you need to work for your worth, even whales farm to get better artifacts to make their team better. Finally I will say A characters status does not define their worth. What I mean by that is. Just because a character is labeled a Utility that doesn't mean you have to use them for that. Run a Burst DPS Qiqi, Go run Vape Lyney, Physical Yae Miko, Pyro Eula. The point is have fun, and if you take the time to learn how this game works you will be very happy with the results.
I would argue the "half a million per rotation" is true only for floor 12. 9-11 are pretty doable with just a few built characters, like 1 or maybe 2 per team. I only have Childe, Yoimiya, Razor, and Xiao built well for DPS (not the best though, and Yoi doesnt even have a full shimenawa set), and i dont have any supports built really other than building up Kokomi's heals and Zhongli's shield. But i can full star 9-11 just fine.
Floor 12 though… I need to build my supports for that, and actually get artifacts for Ei and Hu Tao (ive had Hu Tao 90 since her first banner, but gave up on artifacts soon after cause wasnt getting anything good, and i already had Xiao built)
Just don't care about abyss IMO for 600 primos which, if you are not playing for a year or two lets be real you probably wont 36 stars the abyss, better 9 star floor 9 and 10 and if you can 11 why stretch thin for 150 primos while 4 days of dailies can get you that its just a much better thing to do than suffering through abyss which hoyo everytimes makes it more infuriating with the mobs with 4 million HP or perma freeze lectors or the best elemental check for your characters to meet so you can have a chance
Please do not listen to this guy, though yes, your team isn’t as strong as others, your team is still strong for you. It really doesn’t matter what others say, especially if you’re a beginner or F2P. I’m F2P and I’m aware, but you’re just putting others down for no reason.
lower damage quickly is better than one huge hit once in awhile
Bruh yea I have a friend that always gets super hyped nuking for big dmg, but I never thought about what thier overall dps (damage per second) would be. I should probably mention that to them, thanks!
If my characters can kill the enemy, they’re good enough for me
Me with my lv9 c2 Noelle just playing only the main story since the launch
the way this just isnt true 😭😭😭
I know my characters are weak but…
I don't need my characters to do half a million my strongest two is my Kaeya who does 4000-6000 with normal attacks (like 8000-12000 with crits) & like 12000 with skill (18000 critting), & my Wanderer who does like 8000-10000 per hit. Tbh I don't think the game would be as fun if my characters were too strong.
let me live😭
Hutao can solo abyss right?
My 21k dmg is good enough for me
I'm just happy playing as a terrorist
my average damage is 100
Characters have strengths beyond the abyss. When it comes to all of Genshin, ease of travel, exploration bonuses, crafting bonuses, open world farming, etc. each character can come out on top.
Perfect example is Dehya, she has horrible stats and takes basically a year's salary of money to make her usable in abyss, but when it comes to Fontaine's underwater combat or just afk farming she's very useful for those attributes.
Ofc enjoy Spiral Abyss, but we all know there's more to the game than that.
Even though nukes start to feel clunky to preform in certain cases its still not useless to ignore since with the right setup you can skip or trigger certain enemy attacks or phases earlier making some fights faster or easier to do. though some dps teams are less resource intensive since you dont have to focus on the perfect stats that a nuke team needs
honestly im fine with the team i have. sooo idc about high damage
I'm more than happy about my Heizou Teams. I never have trouble with Abyss. Each run is smoothly and I try new teams around him all the time. But I would never recommend others to build him, unless they are at least a little bit dedicated about him. I know how hard it was for me to get this far and that he may be nothing more than a disappointment for those who don't want to put a decent amount of time and ressources into him.
Meanwhile I can't recommend enough to go for chars like Raiden, Nahida or Yelan, even though I have neither of them on my own account. They are just too good units in the game!
Exact reason why Al Haitham is hella strong but some people say he's weak
Like, killing the Drake before he start flying and get dmg res is NOT weak
You won't clear the abyss unless you're p2p or farm 24/7
my team that has two anemos for no reason other than that they're hot: 😐
Casuals??!!!😂 Dude, that hurts!!!!!🤣
Half a million (FTP tears)
Solution: don't play abyss, enjoy the game
I get around 300k-350k dmg in every rotation with alhaitham and
400k with Ayaka
I easily clear abyss
You’re spewing shit🤡
I'd love to know how you get to those numbers though.
Most i have done is 3k
this is why I still to this day use dps venti
I agree on this so much. I personally remember being really desperate for any event characters just bc they're "strong" and better than standard ( i had only Keqing and Qiqi at the time ) so when i have lost 50/50 on keqinq i moved on asia just to begin a new game, relax and maybe do something else. I didn't know what this " what else " was, before i got Zhongli on asia. I went there, to begin a new game just to validate 4* characters and realise how much of a good they also can be. And since then i moved on Europe again. I was ready to love the characters i have, and mained all the most boring for other people characters: Lisa, Traveller, Raizor, Bennet.. Many would not want to main them since they're not event banner characters or " strong " but i mained them and trust me, they also can get to really high numbers) I have Baizhu now and Wanderer, maybe i'll also get Venti the Bard, who knows, but i wanted to say that even tho Wanderer is good for damaging and destroying everything he sees, and Baizhu is wonderful for healing your whole team in less then a minute, im pretty sure my bennet could replace them both if i'd never get them
Half a million damage per rotation… HAHAHA LMFAO.
For me i just prefer to have fun playing than comparing my damage to people online
Most people also don't realize that the dps shown on the screen are largely p2p too and end up deluding themselves with what they see, thinking that they will get the same damage (here I talk more about those that are f2p)
No one cares as long as you clear the spiral abyss if someone is proud of their unit and its not "up to someone elses standard its not rly healthy to bring them down by saying their wrong makes no sense why we gotta be negative
people just completely scratched the important chunk of the video and started saying meta doesn’t matter
he was not talking about that, he was talking about the optimal damage to consider a team “strong”, not saying you HAVE to do this or else you’re not playing it right.
Nah, I think my 150K CAs on Hu Tao are pretty strong. Same with my 30K vapes on Kokomi's NAs (only 50% of them due to ICD, but even the 13K on the other ones is pretty great, since I do not have to rely on luck).
My highest damage is 17,800 and I'm okay I don't have any problem with any enemy, and I started the game like 2 weeks ago😭 so chilllll
Ha, joke's on you I don't do abyss!!
ppl say cynos dmg is weak bc its only 15k per hit or smth but he hits like 6 times when eula hits 2 times
Me who can only do 188,000 with hu toa
I really don't care is someone is strong or weak, people struggle with Meta comps while others are completely destroying abyss with an Amber Bnuuy.
Strength comes from your knowledge of the game knowing how everything works. Basically Genshin EGT (Elemental Gauge Theory) is a wonderful way to know how the elements properly work and how to use reactions effectively and efficiently.
Second A character is only as good as you make them, including their Artifacts, Level, Team comps and Weapon. When you know how to play your character correctly (for me it's Amber) You can easily be beating all content in the game. (Or spend $15000 and it don't matter)
Though as said this is a game where you need to work for your worth, even whales farm to get better artifacts to make their team better.
Finally I will say A characters status does not define their worth. What I mean by that is. Just because a character is labeled a Utility that doesn't mean you have to use them for that. Run a Burst DPS Qiqi, Go run Vape Lyney, Physical Yae Miko, Pyro Eula.
The point is have fun, and if you take the time to learn how this game works you will be very happy with the results.
I would argue the "half a million per rotation" is true only for floor 12. 9-11 are pretty doable with just a few built characters, like 1 or maybe 2 per team. I only have Childe, Yoimiya, Razor, and Xiao built well for DPS (not the best though, and Yoi doesnt even have a full shimenawa set), and i dont have any supports built really other than building up Kokomi's heals and Zhongli's shield. But i can full star 9-11 just fine.
Floor 12 though… I need to build my supports for that, and actually get artifacts for Ei and Hu Tao (ive had Hu Tao 90 since her first banner, but gave up on artifacts soon after cause wasnt getting anything good, and i already had Xiao built)
Just don't care about abyss IMO for 600 primos which, if you are not playing for a year or two lets be real you probably wont 36 stars the abyss, better 9 star floor 9 and 10 and if you can 11 why stretch thin for 150 primos while 4 days of dailies can get you that its just a much better thing to do than suffering through abyss which hoyo everytimes makes it more infuriating with the mobs with 4 million HP or perma freeze lectors or the best elemental check for your characters to meet so you can have a chance
I dont even care for abyss 😂
The game was so much better when i didn't understand what 'crit value' is
Please do not listen to this guy, though yes, your team isn’t as strong as others, your team is still strong for you. It really doesn’t matter what others say, especially if you’re a beginner or F2P. I’m F2P and I’m aware, but you’re just putting others down for no reason.
Best DPS in game = miko.
She literally deals dmg per second and u don't have to do much except triple E.
Also u can substitute the cup for EM.
Looks like someone just cares about meta and wants to take the fun out of the game 🙃
Just dont be a meta slave 🫠
You are like 3 years late for this arguement