50 thoughts on “why Natlan is Cryo Archon's last KEY to change FATE | Genshin Impact”
okay you should know by now all of thsoe seven gnoes is bacly the gehin version of bacly the dragon balls from dragon ball or the infinty stone from marvel comics or most kinds of mc guffen that comes in gruops of seven. like come on how have you not picked that up yet. yet agein i'm going to say that if the trivlear and pimon gets all seven of the gnoies at the end of the game bascly will brake the doble eidged seal that prevents pimon from giong full sustnear mode and its the exact same seal that also prevents the tralver from giong godmode to bascly fight a end game threat. this end game threat is bascly from both the abis hearlds wanting to turn tavait into a unhiabte wastland and while stoping the futi from bascly derstyoing all of tavait when there plains starts giong out of control. this is beacue of when the third decnter revie atempt makes the 3rd destner goues mad bescue the abis hrealds whould have sabtoges the fut 3rd desinderi revie atempt thus things get out of control so qickly both the travlear and sustnear have to join forces just so tavait woudlent be discorty by a seconud catalesuim bascly. like come on like theres soo many things kinda lineing up alot at this pont that its knida ahrd to miss what giong to happen sooner or later.
I'm seeing a lot of comments saying cryo archon's lover is the 3rd descender, or that is lumine, and stuff like that. May I remind you that the gnosis were created at least 6000 years ago, and Tzaritsa it's not the original cryo archon, who was chosen during the archon war wich happened millenia after the dragon sovereigns vs celestia. With all of this in mind, it is impossible for Tzaritsa's lover to be the 3rd descender nor can the 3rd descender be lumine because the 3rd descender died millenia before both of them existed in teyvat. So the 3rd descender will remain a mistery until more information about the topic is released. We can only say that Tzaritsa is collecting the gnosises knowing what they are, and that she wants the "authority" of the gods to rebel against celestia (Dainsleif says so in travaill trailer "her followers hope only to be on her side when the day of her rebelion against the divine comes at last"). Also, in the story quest is said that visions not only give strengh to their users, but also to the gnosises through the fullfiling of the person ambition, so it's no wonder why gnosises are so powerfull.
Since natlan is the nation of WAR do you think they could wage war on celestia? I mean the nations have been getting progressively more eventfull, i feel like this would be an interesting lead into snezhnya
While we haven't seen true resurrection in game, we know that A) The corpses of powerfull being, specialy gods, can still have lingering conciences and create life from their remains, like Elynas created the melusines and his soul still inhabits his body despite being totatly, no doubt, very much dead. B) while we haven't seen it, we have heard of the posibility of resurrection in Shenhe story when her dad made a pact with a dead god to resurrect his wife in exchange for Shenhe's life in sacrifice. We don't know if resurrection was posible though, becouse Shenhe went full Guts and destroyed the evil god's soul during their battle. Also, Jakob was trying to resurrect Elynas and the posibility was so real that Elynas himself asked traveler to prevent it so he would't couse more harm. C) We know that some being can look dead, but be just in a state of slow recovery, like Susbedo, who was inside Durin along the rest of the failed prototypes, and only recently was powerfull enough to come back and try to take over Albedo's life. So ultimately, the posibilities are there, we just need to wait and see.
Plot twist. Capitano is from khanreah and was using tsarista to collect gnosis. Once capitano collect the 7 then hell use it to revenge celestia and tetvat.
Some of my thoughts : 1) Is Abyss sibling actually a 3rd descender? No, gnosis were probably created before archon war. Meaning it has to be atleast 2000 years old. 2) if so, why is sibling not descender?? Probably because the higher existence such as sinner is manipulating the laws of teyvat. Affecting the sibling. 3) if both lumine and aether can wield elemental power's without vision? Then does that mean that… Celestia copied or used authority of dragon sovereigns to create new system called visions so that their creations can wield those powers?? Does that also mean that celestia wields power similar to Abyss?? Like how dark and holy magic'( in mythology ) exists symbiosis that gods or divine beings ( creators/celestia) uses light magic' ( holy magic) while those who lurk in darkness of this use abyssal or dark energy.?? 4) if celestia came As invader then does that mean that even celestia existed in the outside Teyvat?? .. Does a civilization of celestia controll multiple world's like teyvat???
Ok- But I thought the Tsaritsa was collecting the gnoses to rebel against the divine, for something? Since, in the trevail, Dain says, "Her followers only hope to be on her side when the day of her rebellion against the divine comes at last". Now, I'm not that much of a lore person, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong! 😅
From most of the Chinese cultivation stories and novels that I have read until now 90% of the time „the heavenly principle“ there is the bad guy, it tries to stop the protagonists from having their Happy End or tries to decide their fate and even manipulates them.
What I am trying to say is what if the heavenly principle is the true evil one and the Fatui is trying to break free from their control by obtaining the Gnosis that seems to have a lot of power?
As you said the Gnosis symbolizes the power of the heavenly principle so what if the Fatui is trying to steal the so called „power“ and use it against the heavenly principle by using their power (heavenly principle) against themselves!!
What I mean is that if the heavenly principle is this powerful then the only way to destroy them would be letting them to destroy themselves by using their own power against themselves…
first of all, the harbinger ranks were ironically already given by childe and scara and we finally got that confirmation after they said Dottore is rank 2. 2ndly most ppl tend to not understand this, the unknown god we meet at the beginning ISN'T the heavenly principles. She is the sustainer of the heavenly principles, or maybe one of the sustainers. i like to believe in the popular theory is that she is the god of void/space, a shade of the primordial one. She is even named Asmoday in the game files, yes another ars goetia demon name.
But Gnoses were given to Archons who won Archon War. So that was like… 2k years ago? And we know from Venti that Tsaritsa changed after the Cataclysm 500 years ago. That would imply that it took her roughly 1,5k years to realise that her lover, the Third Descender, was dead. I mean… It doesn't really fit the timeline. Also wouldn't she notice that when she got her gnosis that this are remains that carry on them traces of her loved one?
There is a reference to resurrection in the Genshin manga. Dottore kills his subordinate Crupp in order to put his consciousness later in a ruin hunter. It's not a resurrection in a traditional way but something very akin to that, so the possibility of learning a proper way to revive someone is a highly possible option for their plans.
this might mean that the thirs descender is the dragon king because he has power of the abyss and the gnosis power kinds does look like power of the abyss
People waiting for Capitano, and then there's me, waiting for Natlan's archon being the Himeko of Genshin. I mean, redhear, Claymore as a weapon, fire… HER NAME IS LITERALLY MURATA. (Himeko was Murata Himeko in Honkai the third, for those who don't lnow)… Yeah, you can keep Capitano for you. I want my Himeko archon.
it could reallybe that the 3rd descender was the twin, and then they just made a copy to cover it up, and made the evil twin as the copy who appeared in khaenria 500 years ago
1key is the traveler He is key defeating celestia fatui are not allowed to kill Aether because she Queen sneyzya told them she need the traveler this why childe so friendly to us
2nd key to get All gnosis after getting all she Cyro archon will give it all to Traveler so Traveler Aweken the Full power if you combine all color in rainbow it will became White light. Light is the strongest in genshin its power of celestia dark is abyss
There's 6 gnoses that the Tsaritsa needs and 6 infinity stones. Anemo = Time stone (the connection between wind and time in genshin lore) Geo = Soul stone (Zhongli Story Quest Part 2) Electro = Power stone (Baal being the most powerful archon lore-wise makes sense) Dendro = Mind stone (Sumeru city was referred to as a massive brain when the Akasha was still functioning) Hydro = Space stone (idk what to say other than after the events of Fontaine, with Astrologist Mona being there to see the chaos unfold, there's a lot about "Space" and the stars beyond the skies of Teyvat) Pyro = Reality stone (The Tsaritsa's goal of retrieving the other 6 Gnoses becomes *reality*)
It would be an interesting theory if tsaritsa is based on isis because the tsaritsa is the god of love you would do anything for your love right, what if the third decender is the lover of tsaritsa and the tsaritsa want to revive the third decender by gathering his remains. because of love the tsaritsa is willing to rebel against the divine (celestia).
okay you should know by now all of thsoe seven gnoes is bacly the gehin version of bacly the dragon balls from dragon ball or the infinty stone from marvel comics or most kinds of mc guffen that comes in gruops of seven. like come on how have you not picked that up yet. yet agein i'm going to say that if the trivlear and pimon gets all seven of the gnoies at the end of the game bascly will brake the doble eidged seal that prevents pimon from giong full sustnear mode and its the exact same seal that also prevents the tralver from giong godmode to bascly fight a end game threat. this end game threat is bascly from both the abis hearlds wanting to turn tavait into a unhiabte wastland and while stoping the futi from bascly derstyoing all of tavait when there plains starts giong out of control. this is beacue of when the third decnter revie atempt makes the 3rd destner goues mad bescue the abis hrealds whould have sabtoges the fut 3rd desinderi revie atempt thus things get out of control so qickly both the travlear and sustnear have to join forces just so tavait woudlent be discorty by a seconud catalesuim bascly. like come on like theres soo many things kinda lineing up alot at this pont that its knida ahrd to miss what giong to happen sooner or later.
I'm seeing a lot of comments saying cryo archon's lover is the 3rd descender, or that is lumine, and stuff like that. May I remind you that the gnosis were created at least 6000 years ago, and Tzaritsa it's not the original cryo archon, who was chosen during the archon war wich happened millenia after the dragon sovereigns vs celestia. With all of this in mind, it is impossible for Tzaritsa's lover to be the 3rd descender nor can the 3rd descender be lumine because the 3rd descender died millenia before both of them existed in teyvat. So the 3rd descender will remain a mistery until more information about the topic is released. We can only say that Tzaritsa is collecting the gnosises knowing what they are, and that she wants the "authority" of the gods to rebel against celestia (Dainsleif says so in travaill trailer "her followers hope only to be on her side when the day of her rebelion against the divine comes at last"). Also, in the story quest is said that visions not only give strengh to their users, but also to the gnosises through the fullfiling of the person ambition, so it's no wonder why gnosises are so powerfull.
Since natlan is the nation of WAR do you think they could wage war on celestia? I mean the nations have been getting progressively more eventfull, i feel like this would be an interesting lead into snezhnya
While we haven't seen true resurrection in game, we know that A) The corpses of powerfull being, specialy gods, can still have lingering conciences and create life from their remains, like Elynas created the melusines and his soul still inhabits his body despite being totatly, no doubt, very much dead. B) while we haven't seen it, we have heard of the posibility of resurrection in Shenhe story when her dad made a pact with a dead god to resurrect his wife in exchange for Shenhe's life in sacrifice. We don't know if resurrection was posible though, becouse Shenhe went full Guts and destroyed the evil god's soul during their battle. Also, Jakob was trying to resurrect Elynas and the posibility was so real that Elynas himself asked traveler to prevent it so he would't couse more harm. C) We know that some being can look dead, but be just in a state of slow recovery, like Susbedo, who was inside Durin along the rest of the failed prototypes, and only recently was powerfull enough to come back and try to take over Albedo's life. So ultimately, the posibilities are there, we just need to wait and see.
10 bucks says that the Pyro archon is a dragon
Oh, that’s because she is the goddess of love then which means she’s trying to bring back a lover
Imagine that the gnosis is the remains of the Traveller's sibling remains, which is why the sibling is from records of Teyvat like she was tied in it
meh arlecchino even if she wanted she woudn't beat neuvillete up idc abt the simps
Its not pronounced as reseructed.
Its pronounced as re-zer-ek-did.
I hope the tsaritsa looks like Esdeath from akame ha kill with strict mommy vibes
Dude that Calderock song was a nostalgia trip.
6:16 THE ONE PIECEEEEEEEE
Perhaps the fatui are trying to collect all the gnosis to resurrect the 3rd descender.
Plot twist. Capitano is from khanreah and was using tsarista to collect gnosis. Once capitano collect the 7 then hell use it to revenge celestia and tetvat.
For me, my theory is since tsaritsa is the archon of love, i think she fell in love with the third descender and she is collecting it to revive him.
I wrote this half way coz my my earbus went out. But it seems this is the point of the video and some people think thats probably the reason as well.
but wouldnt that comment make tsarista one of the original seven? but she isn't? only zhongli and drunk bard are
Some of my thoughts :
1) Is Abyss sibling actually a 3rd descender?
No, gnosis were probably created before archon war. Meaning it has to be atleast 2000 years old.
2) if so, why is sibling not descender??
Probably because the higher existence such as sinner is manipulating the laws of teyvat. Affecting the sibling.
3) if both lumine and aether can wield elemental power's without vision?
Then does that mean that…
Celestia copied or used authority of dragon sovereigns to create new system called visions so that their creations can wield those powers??
Does that also mean that celestia wields power similar to Abyss?? Like how dark and holy magic'( in mythology ) exists symbiosis that gods or divine beings ( creators/celestia) uses light magic' ( holy magic) while those who lurk in darkness of this use abyssal or dark energy.??
4) if celestia came As invader then does that mean that even celestia existed in the outside Teyvat?? ..
Does a civilization of celestia controll multiple world's like teyvat???
Nahida has the electro gnosis 😅
Let's resurrect phoenix Signora
(Oh and maybe the third descender is Tsaritsa's loved one, and she lost her love when he got chopped.)
Loving the dragon next bg music
Is Captiano gonna defeat the pyro archon & win the gnosis ?
We got a literal dragon sovereign reincarnation before Varka. this dude is literally travelling beyond teyvat.
Imagine we help the fatui take the Pyro gnosis
it is almost impossible to guess lore in genshin. Once time will come everything probably will turn out differently and will not be expected
Natlan is nation pyro
Ok- But I thought the Tsaritsa was collecting the gnoses to rebel against the divine, for something? Since, in the trevail, Dain says,
"Her followers only hope to be on her side when the day of her rebellion against the divine comes at last".
Now, I'm not that much of a lore person, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong! 😅
Its made by the decedents? So thats what happened to alloy
Also its possible the dragons could also be involved in her plan still but neuvillette is already on their side so they don’t gotta kidnap
From most of the Chinese cultivation stories and novels that I have read until now 90% of the time „the heavenly principle“ there is the bad guy, it tries to stop the protagonists from having their Happy End or tries to decide their fate and even manipulates them.
What I am trying to say is what if the heavenly principle is the true evil one and the Fatui is trying to break free from their control by obtaining the Gnosis that seems to have a lot of power?
As you said the Gnosis symbolizes the power of the heavenly principle so what if the Fatui is trying to steal the so called „power“ and use it against the heavenly principle by using their power (heavenly principle) against themselves!!
What I mean is that if the heavenly principle is this powerful then the only way to destroy them would be letting them to destroy themselves by using their own power against themselves…
first of all, the harbinger ranks were ironically already given by childe and scara and we finally got that confirmation after they said Dottore is rank 2.
2ndly most ppl tend to not understand this, the unknown god we meet at the beginning ISN'T the heavenly principles. She is the sustainer of the heavenly principles, or maybe one of the sustainers. i like to believe in the popular theory is that she is the god of void/space, a shade of the primordial one. She is even named Asmoday in the game files, yes another ars goetia demon name.
Re-constituting the Ten Tails.
6:10 why when u saying heavenly pcb ur showeing us hov
"We don't hear a lot of resurection"
Me: Qiqi… QIQI
But Gnoses were given to Archons who won Archon War. So that was like… 2k years ago? And we know from Venti that Tsaritsa changed after the Cataclysm 500 years ago. That would imply that it took her roughly 1,5k years to realise that her lover, the Third Descender, was dead. I mean… It doesn't really fit the timeline. Also wouldn't she notice that when she got her gnosis that this are remains that carry on them traces of her loved one?
More questions than answers….
a correction….the unknown god is the SUSTAINER of the heavenly principals…not the heavenly principals himself
There is a reference to resurrection in the Genshin manga. Dottore kills his subordinate Crupp in order to put his consciousness later in a ruin hunter. It's not a resurrection in a traditional way but something very akin to that, so the possibility of learning a proper way to revive someone is a highly possible option for their plans.
We have to help the fatui!!! After what celestia had done to our queen furina I will say… LETS JOIN THE FATUI AND DESTROY CELESTIA
this might mean that the thirs descender is the dragon king because he has power of the abyss and the gnosis power kinds does look like power of the abyss
People waiting for Capitano, and then there's me, waiting for Natlan's archon being the Himeko of Genshin. I mean, redhear, Claymore as a weapon, fire… HER NAME IS LITERALLY MURATA. (Himeko was Murata Himeko in Honkai the third, for those who don't lnow)… Yeah, you can keep Capitano for you. I want my Himeko archon.
Natlan is not the key, Java is
simple: the tsaritsa has a gnosis herself, so the natlan gnosis will be the last one she needs to collect
Maybe it helps you to travel to Celestia. Once she reaches Celestia, she will fight with the Heavenly Principles …
it could reallybe that the 3rd descender was the twin, and then they just made a copy to cover it up, and made the evil twin as the copy who appeared in khaenria 500 years ago
1key is the traveler He is key defeating celestia fatui are not allowed to kill Aether because she Queen sneyzya told them she need the traveler this why childe so friendly to us
2nd key to get All gnosis after getting all she Cyro archon will give it all to Traveler so Traveler Aweken the Full power if you combine all color in rainbow it will became White light. Light is the strongest in genshin its power of celestia dark is abyss
Maybe tsaritsa collecting gnosis to revive her daughter that killed by celestia.
Arlecchino technically saved Fontaine by taking the gnosis, since it could lead to something bad
There's 6 gnoses that the Tsaritsa needs and 6 infinity stones.
Anemo = Time stone (the connection between wind and time in genshin lore)
Geo = Soul stone (Zhongli Story Quest Part 2)
Electro = Power stone (Baal being the most powerful archon lore-wise makes sense)
Dendro = Mind stone (Sumeru city was referred to as a massive brain when the Akasha was still functioning)
Hydro = Space stone (idk what to say other than after the events of Fontaine, with Astrologist Mona being there to see the chaos unfold, there's a lot about "Space" and the stars beyond the skies of Teyvat)
Pyro = Reality stone (The Tsaritsa's goal of retrieving the other 6 Gnoses becomes *reality*)
i heard dragon nest sound track here? ehehe
It would be an interesting theory if tsaritsa is based on isis because the tsaritsa is the god of love you would do anything for your love right, what if the third decender is the lover of tsaritsa and the tsaritsa want to revive the third decender by gathering his remains. because of love the tsaritsa is willing to rebel against the divine (celestia).