Outside of the inclusion of Dehya and Tighnari, Genshin Impact’s standard banner has not been updated 5 star character and weapon wise ever since it came out. Though we have gotten the Chronicled Wish banner, I wanted to talk about the standard banner and how I feel like it’s a heavily neglected part of Genshin’s experience.
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they should give one copy of limited 5 star for free. i guess the problem would become is it like 5 options and you pick one or 1 character hyv thinks is necessary for players & would it be existing or new characters.
Examples:
-Ratio in hsr
-hi3 gave herresher of origin (a powerful raiden mei) for basically free (do 4 quests to obtain her). it was time gated but still a good way to help new players and ppl who missed her banners.
adding 5* to the standard wish should also come with a free daily standard wish
This topic is always tricky to discuss potential solutions.
On one hand, you have the idea of adding already existing limited time characters to the standard banner, but on the other hand, you also have the uproar of individuals who actually spent money to get those limited characters and wouldn't find it fair to see them on the standard banner. That would be a lawsuit against Hoyoverse.
Then you have the idea of just making another chronicled banner with select individuals and weapons in it.. but instead of using acquainted fates, it requires intertwined fates to pull on it. I actually didn't think that this was a terrible idea but the fate system honestly ruined it because you're essentially pulling on a deluxe version of the weapon banner. Like you said, great idea, poor execution.
What I think would be a better and more efficient idea would be to remake the Chronicled Banner. Add every limited 5 star along (either those who are due for a rerun or didn't make too many sales) with their signature 5 star weapon and use intertwined fates to pull on it. Chart the course for whichever weapon or character you're wishing for and instead of having to lose the 30/30/30 (the 50/50) twice, make it once. That way, if you lose the 50/50, you don't have the situation where you have to potentially lose it again. Basically, make the Chronicled Banner into a deluxe Character Banner. This solves both problems of using intertwined fates to pull for limited 5 stars, and rerunning multiple who are due for a rerun while staying cost efficient and fair.
As far as the standard banner, I really believe that they should make more standard 5 star weapons and characters. I don't like the idea of HYV always giving the new standard 5 stars their own one-time banner, but if they did that for every new standard 5 star character then so be it. They should add at least one new standard 5 star per version or year and permanently add them to the standard banner.
I got only 1 yr in genshin but i talked to my friend who played since release and i suggested that genshin should do something like this:
Endgame content (Abyss, theater or even both) should give tickets who can be exchanged for Old Standard Banner characters and his weapons so you have extra motivation to do the content not only for the primos. (yeah like Herta's simulated universe but i'm adding characters not only weapons cause genshin is way older than HSR).
Bench all the 7 Old Standard characters to only get obtained by the system above, put ALL the non Mondstadt and Liyue characters (except Xianyun since she is more recent) into the Standard Banner with their weapons. Every next region will bench the older ones and put the less older in the standard: for example in Natlan inazuma should be added (except Chiori since she is more recent).
4 stars should have increased chance to appear only if you don't have them. (This will help people to get variety to do the theater)
Make Paimon's shop rotate two 4 stars characters per region every month (and i mean every one not only the old ones) so (counting fontaine) the shop will have 10 characters to buy with dust. This will help getting some constellations. 4 star weapons should be added too so you don't feel scammed when you get a flute instead a Xifos in the weapon banner.
For the love of god put Kaeya, Lisa and Amber in the banners sometimes. Or at least make a 4-star path in the standard that will increase the chance to get that character but only when you got at least a copy of them. I have Amber C3 and i need just only one more to play Bunny Amber.
Most of us are saving for newer chars instead buying the older ones. Imagine losing the 50/50 and you're getting a Klee, Albedo, Venti or even Zhongli will not feel so shit if you are and old player, and it will feel useful if you are a new player.
I dont want new 5 stars designed to be "weaker" for standard, I want older power creeped 5stars to get added to it
Yeah, they definitely need to do something about the pity system for Standard units, having 0 control over which Standard 5* you get can really hinder players, or just wall players from pulling their favorites behind RNG. I've been playing since 2.0 for example and I've really wanted Keqing, but I've never pulled her AT ALL and never had a chance to pity her in any way, I keep pulling Jean and Diluc cons (and yeah, maybe that's better meta wise but in terms of subjective favoritism, I do really want Keq). I'd like to actually be able to pick rather than let the game pick for me, and I've never had that opportunity with Keq.
NO! That is bullshit!!! The more character are on any group, the less u can get anyone u want. I want weapons from standard pull ffs not characters!
I hate getting new characters since the artifact system sucks so badly and makes gearing them to be up to snuff to my other team members that i have been working on for months if not years. Spending 6000 resien to get almost nothing for the effert sucks more then losing the 50/50 to a 5star you have c6 of already
100%
Hoyo dropped the ball with the chronicled wish banner by making it cost the same currency as the limited banner.
Standard banner is straight up boring and meaningless due to so few, and bad, characters.
Hoyo's greed is once again shooting them in the foot, as revising the banner system would add a ton of motivation to players, resulting in increased profits for Hoyo.
Amazes me a company with their experience can't see this.
The fact that we still have no guarantee for the standard is genuinely insane. Ive been playing for 3 years and only just got mona for the first time a few months ago, and i STILL have no keqing.
They should do birthday banners, in which when a character birthday comes their banner would be up for the 24 hours. At least every character would run at minimum once per year.
The problem is they refuse to add a 3rd banner. The chronicled wish is garbage and they need to scrap it. They can at least say they tried but it failed. There’s too many characters they need a permanent 3rd banner or reducing the amount of time each banner refreshes.
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We need a selector for standard banner
if they did add units to standard banners the chance of getting a paticular one is much more unlikely to happen so it wouldnt even diminish the overall value of characters
Genshin Impacts Standard Banner is the most stingiest Banner I have ever seen.. If you are unlucky you barely get ONE 5* a year.. It's horrible
Nothing will change
Thank you for pronouncing the G in tignari
I think my favorite gatcha that did standard banner right are from cygames. Princess connect put their new "5*" into permanent banner for you to get spooked by them. The only limited characters are seasonal or festive.
EXTREMELY unlikely that hoyo would add limited 5 stars to the standard pool. It's doesn't make any monetary sense. A lot of the newer 5 stars have really good early cons to incentive pulling them. Some so good that it effectively makes abyss to easy. I don't have too many cons on standard characters but I do have a c2 keqing. Now if that was a c2 Raiden, neuvillette or even ganyu. A new character would have to be absolutely groundbreaking for me to actually want to pull and build them. Hoyo has not consistently raised the power floor to clear abyss in each version. There's no significant power creep to warrant pulling new characters
Just got my C7 Jean at 78 pulls on standard banner. Never gonna pull again lol
It’s wired that you can still check your pity for the chronicled wish banner