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Genshin Impact version 4.7 was incredibly good! We got a few answers we needed and we learned a whole lot about Khaenriāah and its Sinners and the Loom of Fate.
We will analyze every single detail from Dainsleifās new quest to try to figure out what the Abyss Order is trying to achieve, but not just them!
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āāā-CONTENTS OF THIS VIDEOāāā-
0:00 ā Intro and Disclaimers
0:45 ā Caribert 3.5
2:11 ā Caribert 4.7
4:00 ā Operation Loom of Fate
6:11 ā A New Irminsul
8:24 ā The Bedtime Story
9:28 ā Kaeya
10:53 ā The Sinners
20:14 ā Lumine
22:05 ā Heavenly Principles
22:44 ā The Name Aether
24:13 ā King of the Abyss
24:52 ā Sea of Flowers at the End
26:18 ā Outro
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18:38 Iād like to add that in Portuguese the Vinster King was translated to ārei do eclipseā which means āeclipse kingā.
your contents makes Genshin more deep and food for the mind…. i just simply enjoy your contents
9:30 I'd assume that perhaps… maybe… Chlothar simply wasn't an only child, so he wouldn't be Kaeya's great great great great great grandfather, but you know, uncle instead. Pretty sure one's uncle would still be their ancestor.
I'm not sure why you were assuming I'd hate this stuff. I mean sure, the analysis of the history of the real world counterparts to the 5 sinners is a waste of time, but apart from that, which in any case is nothing, I have no issues with it. Well you seem oddly down on the Sibling but even there you at least actually look at what they do and say to draw conclusion unlike 90% of people out there with a brain dead "Sibling is corrupted / deceived by Abyss" analysis, which runs counter to the game narrative. Still you made a lot of unwarranted assumptions about the Sibling to reach your "hypocrisy" conclusion.
We don't know enough about how the Caribert dying thing shakes out to know if Sibling's statement blaming Celestia is right or wrong, but it's probably broadly right and it's not like she couldn't have picked many many other examples. We all know the Sustainer has made many shitty choices at best. Also where you thought Sibling was guessing about the sleeping Sustainer I thought they were actually understating all they knew. I guess we don't know, but it's a poor basis for a theory about Sibling's persona I think. As for Focalors' confessions to Neuvillette while Traveler was on the inside track with Furina, I don't think those secrets are a big deal. They only needed to be a secret for that moment in time and it's quite possible the Traveler finds out later on in various ways.
Btw do you usually say "Lumine" instead of "Sibling"? I got the impression more people play Lumine than Aether. Well I don't know.
Sea of Flowers at the End: yeah, you kinda really guessing on that one. Besides which none of those theories answer the Traveler's question about why can't they travel together? I don't have any ideas either.
Congratulations on making it all the way through without referencing Rukkhadevata or comparing Irminsul and the Loom on the basis of them "both editing memories". On the contrary you correctly drew the comparison between them both as means of changing the Fate of Teyvat, which means you're saying Irminsul changes Fate, while most idiots are stuck saying Irminsul can only change memories. of course you have this weird thing where you say Irminsul can change both but nobody's perfect (apart from me obviously).
Other than that main stuff I think I disagree on most of the small stuff, but there's a lot of unknowns there. Even if you have a lot of evidence the Devs can just go zag instead of zig on the small stuff.
Nice video. Very punchy. No wasted time (apart from the Norse myth stuff). Going to have to re-watch it a time or two. And you didn't make some silly apology about how "long" the video was. It was as short as it could be. Having said that I think the 4.7 may have answered more questions than it raised, though it's popular to say the other way around.
There is more going on with Kaeya. His Hang out quest these usually say nothing at all but his doesn't. The theatre he is participating in is about a king that refuses to share power. Later you can participate in a game were Kaeya knows what is going to happen. Both quests heavily suggest that Kaeya knows the future and him flipping a coin is how that future is going to unfold. How much Kaeya knows is unknown.
I think him having a death on the afternoon cocktail is not missed on anyone either that must have been the time Khaenri'ah fell. He is gently making Dainsleif know that he is aware of what he is doing.
Regarding the name Lumine reminds Aether of his name so he won't forget it, as she has, I think that is the reason why she lost her descender status it's been said earlier in the game that a true name holds power Xiao's name is not Xiao. She is concerned that he is next. This idea that Lumine is evil I am not buying and I really don't think Hoyo want's to take the story that way. She told Aether the truth when she is sure nobody can listen in to protect him not the other way around.
The whole thing with kaeya, I dont think he was directly related to clothar, there were more alberich's in khaenriah, likely he's just related to anfortas which could well have been clothar's brother.
You nailed Lumine she doesnt make sense
She whines because Dain couldnt 1v9 archons all the monsters and celestia, but is working together with the Sinner who let the khaneriah burn?????
Hey Shadow! nice video as always dude!. But first of all, I just wanted to say that some comments there are unnecessary rude, like what the heck?!. Why should you apologize for something you've done in your OWN channel?, I mean… seriously?! hahaha š
But anyways, I got some comments abt the video. For example, I don't think Pierro is a sinner, mainly because he wanted to avoid the cataclysm but he couldn't, we saw in the mission that sinners may actually have stopped the catastrophe, but they used the abyss powers to their own purposes instead. But hey, who knows, we still need more info about him.
Speaking about Lumine, I think there're many ways to explain how she knows about the hydro throne, for example, the loom of fate itself, we learned that such thing can modify ley lines, then, why couldn't be used to see through its memories too?, I mean, I don't think the conversation between Focalors and Neuvillette was recorded, but the consequences.
And finally, I'm also waiting for the witches, 100% sure that will come with even more lore to analyze!. This gonna sound weird but, since Narzissenkreuz and Remuria (Now with this quest), I got the feeling that hoyeverse is trying to explain us how teyvat's entire world actually works, but there're still many things to know, I hope Hexenzirkel lore give us the whole idea, specially before Natlan!
The thing you mentioned about ppl not being able to remember travelers name is interesting. Right after you said we had an affect on the worldso we cant be forgotten but it has been my theory ever since Scaramouches quest that all of our deeds will be attributed to the characters in the travail for each nation if we were ever deleted. If we truly aren't being recorded then it may already be attributing it them.
I do agree that the abyss plans are weirdly coinciding with the Fatuis operations, Pierro is more and more sus.
As for Lumine It's not really surprising that she know about the divine throne, bc a character is not there doesn't mean he can't know, especially if she's in touch with that ''Visionary''.Ā
Also the HP are sleeping for sure, as she said to many blasphems happened and they didn't do anything. Gnosis getting gathered in one place (when 2 important peoples said that gathering them will bring misfortune). A man-made god and finally a divine throne destroyed, each time was crazier than the last, it's not really a theory at this point.
Ā About the name however I'm still confused, Paimon was definitely there when Lumine tell it and she heard it. If not she would have ask something like ''what did she say''. And the traveler only use the name we gave him, he never once try to give the name Aether so obviously no one going to call him that. We'll have to wait bc it's strange Indeed
Ok but imagine this pierro is part of the five sinners of khaenriah but was the only one who knew the abyss or at the very least understood that the abyss was bad news but unfortunately he fell into corruption by it becoming one of the five centers of khaenriah and didnāt save khaenriah because he saw no point in it or like you said he became one of the five sinners after the cataclysm also another is that in the pale flame artifact set the mask artifact talks abt pierro and how heās devoted to the tsaritsa because she understands his pain and due to there aligning goals what if the tsaritsa is aware of the abyss orders plans to stop celestia because pierro is telling her and as a way to help them she sends her fatui to do these specific goals to help them without the rest of them realizing it the abyss order and the fatui have the same goal into defying or overthrowing celestia so it would make sense that pierro would be working both sides to help each other and only the tsaritsa and pierro know abt this partnership it would make sense i mean if the abyss order and the fatui aligned they would have a better chance in defeating celestia now i really want him to be playable but we will have to wait another 2 years at the very least that is if he doesnāt get released during snezhnaya which I hope to god he does because the hype is so real
Also in question for Kaeya Iām pretty sure there were more than one alberech in the family if kaeyas origin originates from both Sumeru and khaenriah and the nation was sad to be located underneath Sumeru (which in my opinion doesnāt make sense because in the two scenes that we actually see the nation getting destroyed it seems to be above ground and doesnāt even look like Sumeru) itās very possible that another family member had a child with another women in Sumeru and sent then here to mondstadt for whatever reason either as a way to keep the bloodline of khaenriah going or to keep keaya safe from the abyss possibly the reason why I think this is because I think another alberach was said to be leading the nation during the calamity I just canāt remember where or their name
Also I like to think that the reason lumine knows abt the hydro archon destroying her divine throne is because sheās been keeping track of her brother in someway by some one like a visionary (hint hint) anyways it would make sense if she knew this plus I thought the people already knew of what happened in Fontaine they just left out the part abt folcalors sacrificing herself I thought it was said that furina sacrifice her divinity to save Fontaine which she did but it was told as a half truth
10:40 well, Clothes could simply have blood brother.. but sure
wow less than half in and theres already so much more to this quest than i thought thank you so much for explaining the quest needed this
Thats some baseless assumptions you got there
14:38 portuguese mencioned LETSGOOOOOššššš
One thing that i question is Kaeya eyes now. Like in the Caribert quest the way he talks about pure bloods eyes make it seem like his eyes look different because heās a halfblood, but so is Caribert and yes he did model how he looked like after his father, wouldnāt he as an 8 year old remember what his own eyes look like? Idk why I find it so weird
17:14 is hard to believe. The sages of Khaenriāah specifically didnāt listen to Pierro, and in the Pale Flame artifact set Pierro set up the Harbingers to fight both Celestia and the Abyss. If Pierro was one of the āsinners,ā then why would he say that the sages didnāt listen to him when he warned them of the Cataclysm, when Dain specifically said the āsinnersā didnāt do anything to save Khaenriāah? Hroptatyr in Norse mythology is a title of Odin, the one-eyed God. Pierro isnāt a god, heās more of a scholar / lesser sage in Khaenriāah
about the abyss order and fatui collusion, i personally dont think they are working together, but their objectives are the same, so what one organization does ends up benefitting the other. great video as usual!
i mean, what else could it do if not simply change reality? i don't think there are any other ways to do what abyss order wants to do
If I'm not mistaken, Caribert was the result of an affair Clothar had with a non-Khaenri'ahn woman. Considering that he was part of noblity, I like to imagine he had a political marriage and 'pure-blooded' offspring as well. Kaeya could very well be the descendent of one of Caribert's half-siblings.
Today the accent is particularly strong huh…
Not being recorded by Irminsul might have something to do with Aether's status as a Descender, it's his will that stops Irminsul from doing its thing. Also, I think getting recorded in Irminsul has many more implications, it's not simply a ledger, its primary function seems to be keeping souls on Teyvat and writing their fate.
9:30 remember that 'descendant' doesn't necessarily means direct offspring. It can also refer to someone related through siblings. My theory is that Kaeya is a descendant of Anfortas Alberich, the Marshal of the Schwanenritter and the one taking over Khaenri'ahn rule after Irmin became indisposed. Since both Anfortas and Chlothar are Alberichs, there's a high likelihood they were brothers or cousins, in other words directly related. Anfortas has a LOT of similarities to Charles Martel, who is the grandfather of Charlemagne, making Kaeya the Genshin version of Charlemagne himself, who united all the Frankish kingdoms and became Emperor of the Frankish Empire.
This would make Kaeya ALSO directly related to Chlothar, just one step removed through Anfortas.
Oooh, im chilled, you talking in spanish XD.
Also Shadow i wanted to comment you a fun fact about the sinners. It reminds me a lot to the 5 fingers of God Hand from Berserk, their main emblen is an Eclipse, and Dainsleif could be a mix of Guts and Gaiseric in his search of vengeance.
Alice is the leader of a group of world class witches, and even one of the sinners of Khaneriahā¦.
Let that sink in
Great video as usual!
I also like you feels like Lumine is so hypocritical and she knows it.
As for Kaeya, this dude is sus asf, he knows things im sure of it. Idk if if manipulate fate or see the future but he knows things.
In early game talking about his grandfather found a sword that came from the stars/heavens and then talk about what the grandfather slayed in his life : Abyssal dragon, 4 headed hydra and a silver banshee.
Exactly the type of creatures will fight in the futur.
Abyssal dragon could refers to Childe Foul legacy
The hydra is obviously Osial
And the silver banshee (type of witche) is La Signora.
And im not even talking about his voiceline "Khaenri'ha was destroyed and only the sinners remain" or his hangouts who do alot of allusions to Celestia and Khaenri'ha.
Also the fact that Kaeya loves fischl and always make comparisons about both being royalties of distant lands… (I have a whole theory about those 2 but I will stop for now)
Btw Descendant dont always meaning directly tho and often includes brothers, cousins etc…
Kaeya like is linked to Anfortas Alberich.
Also will you talking about the fact that Genshin are doing a lot of Odin Analogs with Khaenri'hans ?
Irmin (one eyed)
Hroptatyr
Rerir to some extent
Kaeya (one eyed covered)
Pierro (one eyed covered)
Fischl (one eyed)
Anfortas (lose an eye a bit after taking regency)
NotaBene:
Pay attention to Dainsleif when he talks about the 5 sinners.
The wise (close up on the eye)
The visionary (his face, his kin but als 2 eyes (vision))
Gold (look to the river)
The foul (the sky, likely in space with his star beast pet)
RƤcher of solnari (the Moon, yk a moon hunter)
This might also explain what the abyss mage said about the book "Pale Princess and the six pygmies" in Lisa story quest.
"A secret related to the abyss" If u already read it the similarities are uncanny
Also maybe im delusional but Raiden Shogun is very important to this game. Im sure of it and everyone will see very soon
Alberich is family name, so Kaeya isn't necessarily their son/grandson
Last bit about the flower field makes me think the traveller is not real at all just a copy/wish of Lumine⦠maybe Aether died and shes not ready to face it
the Portuguese version of the game doesn't play around, there are no word plays or enigmas, everything is translated into the literal sense and real meaning of things š
I was wondering why in all the videos I saw you were having so much trouble understanding the meaning of some things