Dehya looks SO COOL… but everyone is telling me she’s an ‘awful character’. What makes a character ‘Bad’ in Genshin Impact? With this updated Dehya news is Dehya still worth it? And am I still going to try to pull Dehya? Probably. Is Dehya going to be the worst 5 star character in Genshin Impact? Maybe. Is Dehya worth pulling if you’re a fan of her character. Definitely.
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Heard she been called the “3-star Xinyan”, or that her numbers seem to just be missing a zero at the end. shrugs
Anyways, as you said, grain of salt, I’m not a big leaks guy myself so I’ll only believe it when I actually see her on release, & reserve judgement til maybe 2 wks afterwards so you can all TC the heck out of her, & see whats up.
Still gonna pull for the Pokedex though.
People really coping tryna tell themselves that the character they've wanted for a long time will get better 6 months after release smh
@Howllzz … you know what bro I legit support you bro who is ANYONE to tell you that your faves are trash ?! I'm sick of toxic a$$ people putting others down 😤😤 I haven't decided yet on whether or not I'll be pulling for her personally but I will say this , all of the characters are good in the right hands period and not only that but only losers will talk about characters that aren't even out yet let alone the fact that they completely ruin the fun for others 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Even that she is my favorite sumeru character… I will wait until everyone finds a good team for her… I will wait until the time comes
5:29. Her numbers are awful. She's literally on par with Xinyan if you put them both in Mono-Pyro with C6 Bennett.
Shes the only character I wanted from Sumeru and she is awful.
She fits in no team, the job they are trying to get her to do she dosnt do well, her whole kit just dosnt gel together. Im so sad.
I did it to Nilou, and i will definitely do it for Dehya. I will pull for her no matter what the "rumor" says. Same with nilou, i love her as a character and i love her design, so f**k with the meta.
She got buffed? Idk why people still complaining, but i hope her weapon is poggers
Do you have Yelan? If yes, it doesn’t matter how good Dehya is because Yelan can carry the entire team.
Do you have Raiden? If yes, it doesn’t matter how good Dehya is because she can carry the entire team.
Do you have QiQi? It doesn’t matter how good Dehya is because Yelan exists.
wait until she comes out, do her test run, give her a fair chance, and then if you don't like how she's set up, you can decide whether or not to get her. but if you do want her even if she's not great, you can build her up and wait for characters that compliment her, and her them.
or just be a boss and use her regardless. the game plan is to have fun, and that's what matters.
like the saying goes: better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. peace be upon you.
idc, im still gettting her. She remind me of Jecht. Punching and giant sword swinging is my play style.
The thing is her HP accention that only makes sense at C1 and the fact that her entire existens gets useless when you use a shield in your party…which would be better.
It is her numbers that are awful. TC said offensively she is worse than xinyan, defensively she is worse than Thoma. She's meant to be a tank but she dies easily and still need a healer too.
her kit and numbers have a LOT of problems right now. her tank mechanic may become valuable with a new artifact set or new teammates. but thats all speculation. I’ll be pulling anyway just for design. but its disappointing to have her launch in this state
Im not a Dehya die hard fan but i think everybody is free to pull whoever they want. She might just be another case of kuki shinobu before the dendro release.
And who knows maybe “the bell” will really have value in the future? Idk just random thoughts 😀
The way I see it, she could be 1 of 2 things. Either Hoyo is doing some bait and switch with leakers, which I can see why with their recent track record, or that she is another case like Nilou where a future unit will make her shine. Regardless, I will still pull for her since I like her.
You might even say Deyha need to go back to the drawing board
Maybe they're releasing her like this to make players activate their C6 Bennett
Dehya C6R1 with C2 Kazu/C4 Mona puts similar numbers to C0R1 Hu Tao / double hydro.
They 'gave' her kit some HP scaling while nerfing her Att scaling. Currently C0 Dehya does around 3% more dmg compared to V3, C6 Dehya does around 1% more dmg compared to V3.
She also dies wayyy to easy when you try to 'tank' atm.
Bottom line: Are you still building your account/pulling for value? If YES, easy skip.
I'm very curious as to what her weapon is. If you want to know what her intended deal is a lot of the time their weapon is a fantastic indicator. Either way she is another tool in my kit.
I love the concept of a bruiser in genshin. The biggest issue is that they made her a jack of all trades master of none. Her scaling is super low on all of her abilities. She tanks some damage for the team, but then you just still need a healer. They could have easily given her a mechanic to do more damage while taking damage from her passive. We still have three weeks I want to pull for her. Dehya is attack scaling with minimal hp scaling, which is her other issue with and hp ascension.
I saved up to get a guranteed Dehya but after hearing about her kit I just got cons for Yelan instead. Ill still be going for Dehya but ill be relying on luck instead of a gurantee and I'll prob only do a few rolls at most and just wait till her rerun to get her.
dehya will end up either like raiden since she has an offield dmg and buff and then like 7 sec on field burst. Or will be played like albedo, only E and never use the burst, but she will be fine not bad. She will most likely have great fontaine synergie
I have a hard time with the marketing tactic : here is something BUT it will be very good in the future = trust. I have the theory they started to realise that with Kazuha, then continued with the « last » Inazuma characters and last one being Nilou (even if Nilou was always good tbh people just complained that her bountiful cores are stuck being hydro/dendro only). But Dehya ? That’s a whole level.
Personally, I don’t care about numbers (I 3 crown my Kokomi first banner when a big part of the players were sh*ting on her and people whom pulled for her) so her low scaling isn’t a « problem » per say for me BUT where I have a problem is the illogics in her kit that smell like the marketing technique I talked previously : she is an offfield tank ok cool but her ult is on field dmg with no correlation with her tanking role, doesn’t refresh; her claymore is a crit weapon with an on field style passive ok cool, but it’s kinda meh because her attack scaling is kinda low; she is an offfield tank but you need to stack her with hp to make it « worth » but will, probably, still need a healer because she doesn’t heal herself totally and putting her E zone = one big move = goodbye your tank; etc etc
But trust, Hoyoverse is playing with players on leaks, trust an artifact is coming VERSION LATER to save her, trust FONTAINE will make her good. At this point, it’s not just good it’s PLAYABLE she needs to be.
BUT !, I haven’t tried her, maybe I am completely wrong and for all Dehya wanters, I really wish I am 😊
I'm gonna just test a ton of different things with her, burning, burgeon, using nilou's hydro aura for vape lol, who knows, I don't really care about meta but as long as I can find something fun that feels good to play – thats what matters I guess (copium)
Yea I KNEW it would be so 😭
My next 5 star is guaranteed and I'm getting her no matter what…
i hear shes going to get a character that will work with her sometime after patch 4.0 ….lol
Yeah, she just sounds very disjointed like her kit goes against the other characters you would actually want to pair her with. You can't use the 2 best hydro supports, and from what I heard, her burst has a lot of knock back and forward travel so she might not even work with characters like Kokomi or Bennett that well if she launches herself and enemies out of the circles, also heard she's extremely easy to kill. Just seems like there's not clear purpose or direction. Maybe a future character we don't know about, but that's meaningless since we don't know and can't judge based on stuff that doesn't exist yet.
My two cents is, I'm still pulling her even if she's shit until Fontaine comes. Im not playing this game to quit right after her release now am I, we still have many regions and many stories to go. So im cool with it. Haha
One of the big problems with Dehya is something that plagues Pyro in general: if you don't hit hard, it's not worth a reverse vape or forward melt; if you don't hit fast, it's not worth a forward vape or reverse melt. Dehya's E hits neither fast nor hard; her Q hits fast, but not in a way that enables any other existing characters.
The on-damage trigger condition of her E might make certain particular forward vaporize setups easier to perform compared to other characters (particularly when maintaining a Dendro aura to block Hydro auras), though this isn't in particularly high demand right now. Overall I would say there is a lot of underutilized design space when it comes to Pyro and its reactions, so hopefully there is some kind of plan in mind here, or perhaps something we just won't understand until after her release.
Man you are Noelle main, I am sure you will be fine with Dehya.
Meanwhile I am 'melting' everything with C2 Nahida
Unless they're going to add Fontaine enemies that strip off shields or something like that and/or disable healing, what even—
I know how you feel when I pulled cyns I felt bad about how powerful he was and I feel like this character is destroying the loop out of the meta of course pretty soon we'll have new versions of them like moonlight units and epic 7 so they'll always remake her maybe she'll be cooler like a support character I don't know
I love hack and slash games,so Genshin really hit the sweet spot for me with the characters normal attacks. When i go for a character i don't really canre about team sinergy or how good their skills are,only how cool their attacks look,but damn Miho really droped the ball with her. Claymore users are slow as is,but her only having 3 normal attacks is just…it's like Layla,but slower.
I've been saving my guarantee since Nahida. I don't really care much if she's trash or what, they eventually changed some of the characters that started off bad.
She seems like a fun unit, the problem is what's her role gonna be? And judging by the leaks, it's not that clear
Dunno if you guys know but in HHs she now has an Innate HP scaling for her skill and ult (2% and 4% @lvl10 respectively) and I think they are starting to make her good.
Her C1 gives further scaling which is what I personally thought it should have been.
I think maybe it was a ploy to push hu tao sales. I was torn between hu tao and saving for dehya, but now ended up getting hu tao. With hu tao, it’s so tempting to want her c1, staff of homa, maybe even yelan as well etc. which pushes additional sales. Now idk what they can do to buff her because imo she seems like a 5* Thoma and Thoma sort of sucks with his only saving grace being burngeon which is similar if not worse to just playing hyperbloom. I don’t really keep up with leaks so I don’t even know her kit all that well, but no one talks about burngeon when talking about her so I’ll just wait for her release.
good evening Howllzz i hope you doing fantastic
i have listened to everything you said
i understand your feelings
the reason why i always wait till the character official test run release is what i have experienced in the past
they said,,
Albedo is a waste
Rex Lapis is useless
Yelan is a 5 stars Xingqiu
Kokomi is a 5 stars Barbara
Cyno is a 5 stars Razor
Yoimiya is a 5 stars Amber
Itto is a 5 stars Noelle
The Ballader is a 5 stars Heizou
Alhaitham is a dendro Keqing
what happened after that?
that's correct you probably answered the question in your mind,, it turns out that those characters were the most use in the abyss
those are some of the 5 stars characters not the mention of the 4 stars ones for a quick example Shinubu & Gorou,, im sure you know the rest
as far as i can see the game never failed..they always improve
who knows,,
they might secretly buff burgeon reaction,,
or maybe Dehya & Hydro MC can break the game.. not to mention the Hydro Archon
cheer up Howllzz!! Dehya will be amazing
thanks for the video i appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us
As we saw with a few Inazuma characters, she probably will work well with future characters. Also, leakers often seem to have a terrible record at guessing which characters are good or not. People said Yae and Thoma were bad on release but they both got spaces in teams later on. I doubt they would go and make a character who's strong in the lore to be meh in-game, we'll just have to see what they have in store for us.
oh no i love her, i hope shes not really bad….
But i pull her anyway
I'm hoping…. She's usable as a burgeon enabler… Heavily carried by my C2 Nahida
I get why everyone is mad and me myself I'm disappointed since she's cool. But I'm also at the point where I stopped tieing characters to lore, story and design and just about how fun they are gameplay wise. Even if I don't get her I still get to do her story stuff. So while it would be nice if the leaks are wrong, if they are right I will move onto the next and save.
The fact of the matter is us as a community already told the company this stuff is ok by still spending on other characters like this. So it's just the way things are going to be now and if a character you like is dogshit just kind of sucks now.
This is kind of what happens when we make excuses for other characters not being functional on release. I'm not trying to Shame anyone who had fun with a character even if they were incomplete at the time like Yae, all I'm saying is the data shows this type of character is ok and we are the ones that gave Hoyo that data. And her banner will still make them money bc ppl like her so complaining about her kit is pointless bc they win regardless.
You are outdated about Tower of fantasy, currently the game is more way balanced between elements, but ofc there are contents more focus in Whale territory but that's common in many competitive games, and deny it is just being naive lol