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A leify lore streamer’s thoughts on Ei / Raiden Shogun and her role as Inazuma’s Archon
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Ei was handed the keys at a very low point and expected to do great things. That being said she caused way too much suffering to not be called a bad archon. We have real world leaders who did adjacent things and don't get to use poor parenting, mental illness… to excuse what they did.
Being an Adult God who responded to in game events like a child is in direct contrast to Nahida being a Child who responded to in game events like an Adult.
Ei truly need a Ch. 3 Redemption Arch. That dose what Xiao almost dose for us, and Sacrifice herself. But ofc Sneaky Miko intervenes & saves her just in time to look good in front of her People.
Ei is not a good Archon… But that is exactly why I like her.
She showed, I think for the very first time in the game, that even gods can make mistakes, human mistakes. Even gods can be brutally traumatized by grief and loss, so deeply that can cloud their judgement and make mistakes just like humans/mortals.
She's a gray archon… which is make her interesting character and different from other archon (tbh all of the archon hv a different unique character trait, which is impressive)
It just tht inazuma archon quest had a poor execution, i mean we can see her stor quest act 2 had a lot of good point for her character
Ei just reacted based on her emotions, I don't think so she's a good atchon
Hear me out, the primary condition for being an archon is to survive/win the archon war, Celestia rewarded strength, in that sense, Raiden Ei might be one of the best archons
Here’s my opinion: No, she is the worst archon by far.
The reason why is because I don’t care that she lost a few people. You still made your people suffer. It’s almost the same as saying: “Oh come on, this guy may have killed 15 people but he was depressed.” Like..ok? But he’s still a murderer. So yeah idk, I don’t think it’s an excuse.
Ei is my favorite character, she's c5 rn because she hates me for some reason. I think that she was doing her best to prevent people from suffering the way she did. Now before this she didn't have any prior experience to leading a country, she was a top warrior, a killing machine you could say. I don't think she was a good archon as she didn't listen to her subjects desires, but she tried her best. Vision hunt decree sounded like a good idea to her, she wasn't manipulated into it. Every now and then someone geting a vision makes a change in the constant that existed up until then. As for now I think she is getting better at it and is the reason I love her so much. We dont see any of the other archons grow and change, they are how they were before.
Her thoughts about what she did are valid in my eyes, but that's no excuse to allow the Vision Hunt Decree and letting war go on within Inazuma. She was scared for her people. So her intentions are good. Her actions are not.
Trauma does not give you the right to hurt others,even if you think that it might have helped them (also becouse avoiding changment was probably for her won good,not for the one of her own people)
Yeah,she did fight her 'past self',but the damage is done
Also,she should have thought more about putting the Raiden Shogun to lead the country
If Raiden Ei had been more present,most damage wouldn't have been done
I don't like her,even though sometimes I want to 'forgive' her becouse I can see that Ei has the ability to be gentle and compassionate
Remember when Ei said "But I've seen a nation strive forward, and lose everything to the Heavenly Principles.", she doesn't want Inazuma to become the next Khaenri ah.
Inazuma is not bad of a country(average) and is peaceful for like 495+ years and shit only go downhill when the fatui caused chaos… When looking at the entirety of Ei's administration, it's just like any other nation
The Raiden Shogun isn't, but Raiden Ei is, the Good Archon.
Ei’s writing is HEAVILY misunderstood and undoubtedly one of the best in this game. The fandom is so frustrating the way they decrease her to a “Waifu”🤦🏼♂️
She was a great Archon for centuries until 1 year ago when her own people, the Tri-commission got corrupted by the Fatui and passed the law for Sakoku and Vision Hunt. This is the real tragedy of her story, she literally cast aside her own mind, body and soul and gave everything to her people and yet her people betrayed her, then Hoyoverse chose to frame this single year of her centuries of Archonhood to make players think that she's the antagonist when she has in fact been burning away her being to protect Inazuma.
And the worst thing is that her story is about depression and being unable to voice and reach out to others for help, and as she continues to suffer, people see a single mistake in the past 500 years and then suddenly think that she is bad.
I don't know if Hoyoverse is actually that big brained and meta to actually not just talk about mental illness, but even fully replicate how people with mental illness are misunderstood and uncared for. As Dr K, Healthygamer_GG said, people who suffer from mental illness are victims, to blame their decisions that result from their mental illness is victim blaming.
And Raiden didn't even make any decisions out of maliciousness, every single decision she made was out of making sure that Inazuma will survive for Eternity, and she's willing to give up living a life for that.
I always thought that the true reason why she was a “bad” archon was because the Fatui had manipulated/brainwashed her
Before her second Character Quest, 100% yes. Now she's okay.
Ijust wish hoyo didnt end up making her “looks like she would kill you, is a cinnamonroll”
Ei is an archon who was not meant to be.
We clearly see that Makoto was the brain and Ei is just meant to be kagemusha.
But Makoto death turned her life whole side down.
She had to rule a nation which she is not meant to,cover up her sister death and deal with cataclysm while losing her friends.
She suffered greatly and her mind was not in good conditions.
So in her fear and grief,she created things with good intentions but greatly back fired on her.
But she saw her mistakes and vowed to be better,an archon meant to rule the nation.
And I think that is good writing even though the story execution is shit
Is she a good Archon?
Short answer, no.
Long answer, fuck no.
Another here already explained exactly how I feel so my short awner is yes shes a good archon after we help speed up her process of change and moving on from her trauma a person takes forever to get over deep traumas so it makes sense Ei would go through the same just unfortunately being a god that period of grief is longer than a couple generations for us
Ei didn't even know how bad it was with the fatui in Inazuma. She says it herself when Traveler asks her if she knows everything that's going on outside and she answers, "Not so. Only that which pertains to eternity." In other words, she knew what she was being told after passing through two filters – the Tenryou Commission, and the Shogun.
So, we could say that for 1 year she was negligent. For the other 499 after Khaenri'ah's demise, all Inazuma knew was peace.
Before then, she literally fought every mayor battle in Inazuma and defended her people's lives and well-being. She even allowed Watatsumi to keep the shrine to Orobashi, even though he was the one that attacked Inazuma without provocation from them and ended up with the death of Sasayuri, one of Ei's closest friends.
Her AQ suffered from poor pacing and not enough exposure.
Are we the bad guys?
I hate her and refuse to pull her :<
She's traumatized.. and that's it.. doesn't excuse her actions but I can understand why.. my friend and I even joke about this a lot because she never lost everything, she still has Miko.. but she still went on to enact the Sakuko Decree hence why Miko is really pissed at her.. she like, "dude.!! I'm still fcking alive and here for you.!! Why the fck are you neglecting me.??!!"
IMHO, raiden and everyone involved in messing up Inazuma should be punished ( npcs included) and the punishment is unique for each involved but equal on the weight of their actions and its long term effect in Inazuma ( ranging from banishment, stripping of authority, your started this mess now fix it sthick or karma biting their backsides).
Ex. Final Euthymia fight will have a wager. Traveler loses they be imprisoned or ded but if they win, Shogun voluntarily steps down from power, make a public speech of apology to everyone in Inazuma, give compensation to those affected by the Vision Hunt and Sakoku Decree and help fix which part of Inazuma can still be fixed with supervision from Yae Miko.
Again this is just MHO. If you support, what can you add to my comnent if you're against it I interested why and are your supporting statements to it.
No she is definitely not a good Archon.
I still think that Ei should've been a villain. At least that way she wouldn't seem so pathetic. Sounds harsh, I know. I just don't get how she even let a puppet rule the nation she was supposed to protect.
At first introduction I thought: "Yoo she's such a cool villain" and after her first story quest I was so dissapointed that they made her a "cinnamon roll".
After we defeated Ei she also suddely listened to us and Miko?? Like what, that was so anticlimactic
You forgot to mention that she has literally defended Inazuma from countless calamities, as Makoto says herself in Raiden’s second story quest. Ei has never been a bad archon as far as I’m concerned
Easily horrible- she's the worst character
Well she isnt a bad archon but certainly isnt a good one either because lets remember some interactions with NPC's
1 NPC in Mondstadt was in Inazuma before the Sakoku decree and when he was there, he basically said it was horrible, to the point where he wouldnt even go again, even for a million mora
And a NPC at the beginning of the Inazuma AQ said she barely left Inazuma because of the conditions there
And lets not forget the NPC's who lost their vision because of the Vision Hunt Decree, who all lost their ambition and basically was like a husk of their old selves
So yeah, she was in a state of depression, but handled it horribly
Challenging the embodiment of her previous ideals for 500 years in that Domain is quite feat. Realizing her mistakes and choosing to become better for her people is a huge step, and an indication that she is worthy of being Inazuma's Archon.
Yes
Ei may not have been a good Archon, but she's a good person. Itbwas impossible for her to even deal with Makoto's loss because she shut herself away, and so no one could have helped her, she was alone, thoughts and feelings worsened..
Seems she really needed Miko to knock some sense into her, but Miko couldn't get to Ei without the traveler.
In the end, Ei was just traumatized and scared and made loads of bad decisions from unresolved feelings. But that doesn't mean she ever was a bad person. She just made lots of bad moves that she didn't understand or see because she was blinded by her own grief and suffering without anyone that could have pulled her out of that dark place for so long
Not the best archon, but no where NEAR as bad as Venti. She's on the better end of the archons imo. Also the Vision Hunt Decree was fully justified, few understand this.