Genshin Impact CN Data Shows How Their META Is Defined…



Genshin Impact CN Spiral Abyss data analysis. Who is the best units that are used to 36 star the abyss & why.

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40 thoughts on “Genshin Impact CN Data Shows How Their META Is Defined…”

  1. D most surprising thing about all this usage rate/tier list etc. Is kuki shinobu..
    Back when she first released..almost all players said she's trash
    But now…she became from d tier to ONE of d best H.B. carry Out there
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    Hope dheya gets d same development

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  2. I definitely think this current abyss cycle just heavily favours pyro dps because of dehya (thank you for your weak kit and making abyss harder)

    As soon as 3.6 drops Nahida and Nilou are bound to be getting the best blessings possible along with enemies that are susceptible to bloom damage

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  3. Surprised you don’t know this, but in Chinese culture red goes up green goes down. This applies to their stock market color code as well, which just happened to be the opposite in the U.S.

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  4. 5:10 Most of Wanderer's value lies in his exploration utility, being able to clear abyss is just a cherry on top. I did use him on a team with Bennett Xiangling and Zhongli for the first half on floor 12 with no issues so that was nice. Once I get c6 Faruzan I'll definitely be using him more for abyss content when possible

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  5. Isn't it obvious why Dehya is at 11% usage rate? That's 11 out of 7 who owns her. The smaller the ownership number the more likely character is questionable at best and people who pulled did so because they really like it and thus are more likely to use it no matter how it performs. Otherwise that's about 0.7% of players who used Dehya in the abyss out of those whose data were used here.

    In short: usage rate turns into a hot garbage on low ownership rates.

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  6. I have only one thing to say, people have to stop using abyss usage rates as indicators for character value in the meta, there are so many factors that go into usage rates and just looking at them like this isn't actually giving any informations to people who wanna learn about the mechanics that go into team building
    (I mean come on, fiscal in B tier? Sucrose in C tier?)

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  7. I'm surprise that tighnari is in low pick rate since his playstyle is very good against wenut (which i use and maybe this is the reason this current abyss is very easy for me). And maybe because he's a standard character that low spender and f2p don't have him yet

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  8. Very cool organizing of so much information! Cool and inspiring dedication! I can tell there is so much dedication, time and work was put in by you. Hands down to that! You got a pretty cool podcast voice quality too. Also really nice play of words at one point that I like a lot! 🙂

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  9. I know i should pull for Nahida but I've had no problems 36* the abyss without her. Maybe ill leave it up to fate, roll until pity and if I win I guess ill use her but if I lose ill stop and not even bother rolling for the guranteed.

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  10. The reason for the drop rate was because of the Cryo Abyss Mage Lmao. Same with Nahida since dendro damage was kind of coubtwred with those mages. You can clear them but still would need skills. The wenut was easy

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  11. Next meta will be the "survival" meta! Fontane is going to make it so you got to survive or else! We have been saying that the spiral abyss is just a dps check and rarely anything else. All the theory crafters point at not using Zhong Li or supports that don't provide any dps increase for your team. Some say the developers don't know how to make harder content other than adding more HP and levels/resists to monsters. So in Fontaine Hoyo is going to switch it up and turn the game into a survival focused genre!
    Of course all this could be saved for Natlan but I am thinking Fontaine could be when they do it.

    Anyway good video!

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  12. Why would u rate a Character as worse only because more people own it? If people dont own a character most likely they wouldnt play it anyways only exception being new accounts who only own very few 5 stars. Therefore considering the ownership rate to usage rate doesnt give an accurate picture of the meta at all. Rating characters worse because they are more popular? Some people may pull ganyu or wanderer for overworld usage which leads to a higher ownership. A character which the exact same strength in the meta that provides no other benifits would therefore get higher on the list despite having the exact same strength leading to a wrong picture. Therefore to get the most accurate picture of the meta ownership should get completly neglected.

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  13. The entire stats in these sites are useless and wrong …

    First, they are submitted data not official ones. Second, the sample is insanely small. Third, the sample is not random.

    Finally, usage rate , even official ones have very little value anyway, it doesn't translate to "character strength"

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  14. You said it yourself, a lot of characters in these usage rates are there due to “emotional value”, yet still tried to convince that the statistics define their value. That is not a wise thought.

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  15. Nilous ability is insane. I'm definitely a Nilou believer. I reviewed some of my runs with her and the numbers that popped up the screen was crazy, you really don't know what's going on until you play it in slow motion…

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  16. I would like to say this given context to the video, players make the meta not hoyo not and the meta is defined and designed by the players i don't see meta as static nor a one size fits all kinda thing each player has their own innate compatibility and strength that is more efficient when they specifically use a character or team for example no matter how good Ayaka may be her play style is so quirky no damage calculations made will match my output that special dash spam just ruins her for someone like myself. It's why i often suggest playing character trials then deciding if you want them or not. Given the right build and player pair up amazing things can and do happen. I would also like to see global usage compared to CN because I think it differs in some ways and that comparison is important to cross reference. Thanks as always Walruss

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  17. I'd expect Dehya usage rate would be a bit higher if not for two factors. One is that National is a META staple, and so a lot of people have that team, and it works well for the "Dehya-friendly" top-half of 12. And the other is that most Dehya teams are the mono/Mona-pyro ones, which, well, are kind of the equivalent of how people try to turn every non-catalyst cryo/electro character into phys carries, except worse, since it ties down both Benny and Kaz.

    I think if more people had toyed with the Nahida, Kuki, Dehya style teams, she'd have fared better. But set ups like that, with a focus of on-field Dehya tanking, with off-fielders for the DPS, were pretty much ignored by content creators.

    That said, her kit is still problematic, and very lackluster at c0. So her usage rate would still be bad for that reason. She's just too flawed at c0.

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  18. i think nilou will still rise up when fontaine is out and the hydro archon maybe will give hydro characters a huge boost no ones knows but once characters go down hoyoverse will lift them up on other patches just like how people trashed my favorite character kuki shinobu now shes on S tier i didnt regret C6ing her on the 1st banner and giving her a huge love from my resins.

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