I just want proper text and descriptions, since miHoYo obviously cares about attention to detail.
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Regarding raiden breathing in dragon spine, at that form its raiden shogun (puppet). I think raiden Ei is present only during her burst. During idle animation raiden also talk like the puppet.
I think, Raiden burst count as normal and charge atk, but the damage is count as burst damage. Beidou burst get trigger by normal and charge atk damage, so Raiden can't trigger the lightning because while using burst her damage get count as burst damage. Not normal/charge atk damage…
At least, that what i understand…
Exactly! Its been a week and mihoyo has still not made any official statement on beidou-shogun issue, they just put a useless post with random artifact/weapon comparison
Xingqiu's burst doesn't need to hit an enemy to proc.. you can trigger it hitting air unlike beidou's burst which needs to hit a target to proc chain lightning
It’s not BAAL!
It just goes to shows how broken raiden shogun is.
They didn't even bother to animate shit and add details.
Just before this video, I saw another video that was showing about the details in Genshin Impact. There also it talked about the breathing in Dragonspine. However, they did ruin the story for me by telling the reason why it is so for Baal. (I haven't completed the story quests of Inazuma)
I think such content creators could learn a lot from you where if they really care about the experience of their viewers, that is, the joy of learning about the story by playing the game itself, care should be given or at least warnings so that they do not accidentally spoil anything for anyone.
Much respect to you TSoul22.
Electro is in a weird spot where they need to find a better way to make it balance. The problem with electro character is that they have high scaling on their skills, Beidou, Fischl and Sara is a good examples. If we looked at their burst/skill scaling it's very high. So to make up for it, Mihoyo need to at least make it so that they will be balanced compared to other elements character. That's why we see such mediocre element reaction and resonance. My take is that, Mihoyo purposely make it so to make it balance between elements.
Personally, I do think electro is underwhelming compared to other elements. But at the same time, I understand why electro is underwhelming in the first place. Even though electro is mostly focused on energy recharge, they can't make electro character to have that advantage. Since electro character have high scaling, this will shift player to make a team full high burst spamming. Thus they put a restriction on the electro resonance where they'll gain 1 electro particle for every electro reaction with 5sec cooldown. This is how Mihoyo thought to balance electro, by making the reaction weak and strict their energy gain. If not, player will notice this and spamming burst for every character in their party.
I'm sure some player will enjoyed continuously spamming their high scaling burst character. However this also will make some content of the game uninteresting. End game content would be easy and player will soon found out that the game is getting boring will lead to losing player base. I can't stress enough how important it is for gacha game to maintain its player base since the player have a possibility to spend money on it.
I do hope some how Mihoyo would be able to rework the current situation. If you ask whether electro need a buff/rework. Yes, I do think it electro need it. However, to what extent so that electro wouldn't broke the balance of the game is something that they will need to think about.
I got some constellations on this banner, but I'm done pulling. Don't want either of the Underwhelming Twins. Buff Electro and I'll pull my C2 Keqing out of retirement!
My biggest problem with her is that her burst's damage is really, really low before C2
only clowns are still calling her "Baal"
jesus.. why everyone cries because raiden dont work with beidou.. noone said she will.. raiden is very stron sub dps that can be main dps and hit rly hard… xingqiu burst shot swords when u do normal attack.. not when it hits.. beidou make discharge only when normal attack hits.. xingqiu burst and beidou burst are 2 different things.. there is nothing to be fixed… does noelle who is support burst works with zhongli?? no?? exactly
This issue has been since day one in community . She is wifu and I got her betting on future releases
Her elemental skill can't do coordinate attack when fighting with hydro abyss mage that has shield
It's a wording problem I think.
It's difficult to explain in english that's not my native language but :
In Beidou case the "normal attack" refer to the attribute normal attack that you lvl to hit harder in Baal case that's her "Normal Attack : Origin" line
In Xinqiu case that refer to the fact of using a non charged right click
That probably why it doesn't work.
Is it normal ? Probably not but it's maybe clearer in chinese (?)
I would be happy that they fix it and extend it to Skyward Spine.
Maybe they can stop Xingqiu Q to be activate when Ei is in her Q. Problem solved.
While I do think they should fix the Beidou compatibility issue, the wordings between Beidou's ult and Xinqiu's ult are clearly different. Xinqiu's ult says "normal attacks trigger", Beidou's ult specifically says "normal and charged attack HITS trigger". That's also the exact wording on Electro Traveler's ult, and that one also doesn't work with Raiden's ult. Raiden's ultimate attacks are considered normal attacks, but they're not considered normal attack damage.
Ok, here is my understanding of it. At first (in beta) it did work but after testing it was too strong and so Mihoyo didn't want to nerf Beidou since she's already released, they chose to nerf Raiden. It was only too powerful when Raiden was in her Burst normal attacks, so that is where the restriction was applied.
Maybe you have noticed how electro does not always "trigger" off the character you expect it to? The bug is in how electro reactions were coded from the start. To rework those reactions will take a lot of time maybe months, it's probably not a quick fix and is deep in the foundations of the game. So, Mihoyo has to weigh the cost of doing that (which will not bring in any revenue) as well as delay future content as talented dev's are pulled from their projects to rework the reactions. Once this is done there is still a good chance that many players will not like the changes and be upset. So its not an easy situation to be in.
All we can do now is wait and see what choice they go with.. leave the underlaying code alone and adjust future electro characters (like Yae Miko) accordingly, or take the time to rip into the code and push forward expecting the changes they make will be popular enough to not hurt profits.
Anyway good video!
The no breath is also a bug IMO, because I think we summon Ei on the banner, and not the bot, on the banner, because in the story quest we hang out with Ei in HER physical form, and can try HER in the "dungeon" rather than the bot
I might be wrong, but afaik the gods can create anytime a body for themselves (like Venti creating his body to look like his friend) and the multiple forms of Morax.
what controversy? this is literally the first negative thing ive heard about baal lol though i do agree they should fix this since it doesnt make any sense for 1 to count and not the other : /
Imagine Mihoyo decides to fix by removing procs from rain swords lol
I feel like Beidou is the only electro character that the community care about
If Pyro Archon also have a drama it's not Pyro impact anymore
how they can fix char who is already DEAD lol
lets not forget childe e works with beidou and its the exact same as raidens q
Interesting, people seem to have an issue with Archons lately. I'm using Raiden Shogun in my party and she's working perfectly fine for me. The only real problem I noticed is that the coordinated attacks won't proc when hitting shields. If Mihoyo fixed this, Raiden would be golden 🙂
But hey, if you guys wanna go complain to Mihoyo, be my guests. Won't say "no" to a buff 😀
for an archon to be called just fine isn't good enough in my humble opinion
There was no need to fix xingqiu or beidou, since xingqiu is not beidou and beidou is not xingqiu.
They're unique. What they need to fix is their wording. Please hire a translator that actually knows the game.
From what I know, normal attack is not same with normal attack dmg.
Childe elemental skill has normal attack with normal attack dmg, so he could use Rust.
But raiden burst is normal attack with elemental burst dmg, so she could use Emblem of Fate.
What beidou burst description should be is "normal attack dmg hit the enemy", not "normal attack hit".
But I agree with the buff. Those wording issue should have been fixed before Raiden released, not after.
Playerbase would mad for sure.
My conclusion:
A fix is not needed since none is bugged.
But they need to 'fix' beidou in order to avoid backslash from masses.
I, too, think this is unfair, but is is not Raiden who needs to be fixed in this, it is Beidou.
The abilities do match the descriptions. When Raiden is in Musou Isshin state, she can do normal, charged and plunging attacks but she will deal burst DMG. Xingqiu's and Beidou's burst descriptions ARE different and the effects are different as well.
Xingqiu's sword rains are activated by the action of doing normal attacks, so even in Musou Isshin state her normal attacks will do.
Beidou's lightings are created when a normal attack hits, but when Raiden is in Musou Isshin state it is the burst hitting, so it will not work.
Try it with any other character: if you use Xingqiu's burst and do normal attacks without hitting anything, his sword rains will be triggered anyway, but if you use Beidou's burst and don't hit anything it will not create the lightings, so the way it works is right.
It's a normal attack that does burst damage. Technically both Xingqiu and Beidou are working properly with Baal, but it's still dumb and confusing
i know why she not strong because she is baal not EI
They really need to start fixing the element as a whole like, even after they said "EM will be much better now" all of the elemental reaction are still far more inferior than Melt and Vaporize reaction. Feels like they did it as a formalities just because Kazuha, an Anemo user gonna get released. I mean come on. Surely they can come up withj something better than that. Feels like they only think a step forward in each update rather than planning a whole 5 steps. All of that update and the content of the update is just minor fix or something like that with no compensation at all either.