Thoma is being rated up right now, and as such, this video will explain everything you need to know in order to maximize your Thoma’s potential! Though he isn’t by any means the strongest 4 star in the game, he is definitely very underrated, so let’s explain Thoma’s value in 2.8 Genshin Impact.
DISCLAIMER:
Admittedly not much has changed with Thoma’s gear since his release, so this video will focus further on WHY you should use certain gear in certain situations, and general misconceptions/best ways to play him, plus his influence on a handful of strong teams as of 2.8.
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edited by meeee
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music: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AbeU9S49ec)
by tnbee
Xiao + Thoma Example:
(https://youtu.be/M245gjCQ9s4?t=68)
by ShadoRegalia on YT
Perfect Hu Tao VV Vape Rotation:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzYCODJVqfg)
by jstern25 via KQM Theorycrafters (https://keqingmains.com/thoma/#Support_Teams)
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Kit & Important Details
3:58 Constellations
7:00 Artifact Sets
8:48 Artifact Stats
10:33 Best Weapons
13:15 Team Comping (IMPORTANT INFO)
17:43 Concluding Thoughts on Thoma
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NOTE: I BRAIN-FARTED the mainstat graphic, Goblets CANNOT have ER% mainstats.
ALSO, explanation as to why Staff of Homa wasn’t recommended:
Staff of Homa is primarily a DPS weapon, and as such, Thoma can’t make good use of the crit value and high base ATK without sacrificing much needed HP and ER rolls for crit rate rolls. This alone already makes optimizing him much more difficult when using Staff of Homa BUT, to further that issue, Staff of Homa’s HP bonus on the weapon passive isn’t even half of what Black Tassel can provide, and doesn’t provide even half of the value that (for example) The Catch, Engulfing Lightning, Fav Lance, Starglitter, etc. can provide, and most of those weapons are 4 stars.
“But Marcus, Zhongli uses Staff of Homa really well”
Zhongli’s energy requirements are extremely low, especially especially compared to Thoma, so he doesn’t need to worry about ER% rolls as much anyways (allowing him to focus more on other stats), PLUS, his most valuable asset (shielding) is tied to his skill, not his burst. So the crit value and high base ATK of Staff of Homa is just an added bonus on top of his already very forgiving build needs.
If you plan to build Thoma as some sort of SubDPS hybrid, Homa could be a decent choice, but as a shield support, he is not the sharty bae for Homa.
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My thoma is c1, 9/9/9, staff of homa, with 2pc glad 2pc tenacity.
He’s used as a shield/sub dps for my yanfei team
Thoma (shield), bennet (heals), xinqui (hydro), yanfei (dps vapes)
Love this!! Thoma is somehow one of my most used characters lol I think he's underrated as well, nice to see a positive guide about him!
Yes, someone that will force me to build him. He’s too adorable to bench
Where is the link for more info about Xiao Thoma team, I would like to add him into my Xiao team
I finally cleared 36 star abbyss for the first time….and Thoma is why I was able (with Hu tao hypercarry, of course!)
I literally pulled C6 Thoma the same minute as this video got uploaded…
I guess that means fate, huh?
I'd really like to use him, but I have replacement characters (esp Zhongli) that I like more 🙁
Heizou is another char for whom Thoma can work magic. You can't swirl Geo, and Genshin's One-Punch Man needs to swirl something for those declension stacks. Heizou also uses a lot of normal attacks, shield will be refreshed easily. Heizou also brings his own VV set. So yea, Thoma will keep him on his feet, and if you add a Xiangling and Xingqiu, and you got off-field damage galore to give some sustain damage on top of those single punches.
Thoma, Kuki, Heizou plus another off field support is really fun to play.
An early rolled Thoma ended up carrying me through various points throughout the game, despite being locked at 20 for ages. I leveled him up so fast when I unlocked the fog island. He kept hopping off the bench right when everyone else was struggling to carry and somehow saved the day. He earned his keep. He's only kept being useful even in the higher levels. So I will gladly show up to a video offering Thoma much needed love.
A bit surprised 4p Instructor's wasn't mentioned, though I'll be the first the admit it can be a bit niche (restricted to reaction teams, mainly Tao and Yoimiya), needs him to trigger a reaction which can be mechanically hard (on the optimal rotation) for some and it can be harder to get enough ER and HP.
However, C4+ it functions pretty well. At least ime, with around 200% ER and 27k HP, 4p Instructor's is his best on my Tao team. I enjoy teams a bit more complex, which this proves to be, as the best rotation involves double swirling (XQ QEE -> Thoma EQ -> Sucrose auto EEE or Kazuha Q auto E -> Tao, Kazuha being a harder to pull off rotation). But the EM buff is really appreciated, over the other 2 options I'd consider (4p NO and 2p EoSF 2p TotM).
The only problem with Thoma, and I guess with other Pyro 4stars, is their viability is reduced solely due to Bennett and Xiangling's existence.
I love seeing more Thoma appreciation, thank you!
I hate it when people say that, don't build Thoma and I'm like… Cool so what am I suppose to use with my Hutao?
Based
I died… while having Thoma's shield on. My dead body was still surrounded by his shield. Never again. DROP.
He isn't underrated he deserves the small rate that he gets
I use R5 Kitain Spear for him, and it really works well for him. I cant give him any other polearm since FavLance is not available (r5 FL is on Yunjin, r4 is in Zhongli) and The catch is used by Raiden
As someone who started in 2.6 and thus don’t have Zhongli, I really appreciate this video! Not having Zhongli (nor Diona) really sucks and it’s put a huge damper on building certain teams.
Bruh he sad asf
I remember when Hutao's rerun came by and i went for c1 i ended up getting c6 Thoma too and i gotta say being able to consistently swirl pyro with Kazuha before doing dps as Hutao was invaluable to me pre adding Zhongli and Yelan onto my team.
11:53 wtf is zhongli doing with an engulfing😂
Yeah but isn’t the best therefore bad.
As a thoma main….I'm happy this boi is finally getting some recognition. ^^
Edit: dragonfly: "Ignore the attack talent unless you're insane, in which case Godspeed solider"
Me: has almost triple crowned Thoma I just think he's neat 😀
….yes I'm a full on simp for thoma XD
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I keep pulling for heizo and getting thoma so now i have a c3 thoma. And now I can give him more use!
Everyone sleeps on the Kitan Cross Spear for Thoma, but if you manage to get that to r5 I think it provides the easiest energy recharge and a nice em boost too.
Thoma might be fun in sumeru for shielding while setting stuff aflame