This is a genshin impact ayato guide showing hp% vs atk% when building kamisato ayato with his new dedicated artifact set – echoes of an offering and when using sets outside of it such as shimenawa. keep in mind things can change due to this being the beta phase.
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why not trying to get a mix …. i want to know the num with ho and atk being focused on
Nice! Will double-check my numbers as well, as you certainly have a better grasp on this.
On another note, though I am definitely looking forward to that Xiao guide, I'm hoping you have the time to fit in the Electrocharged/Freeze numbers for Ayato as well.
I'm grinding shiminawa because even if I don't get anything good I could still up with some niece emblem artifacts, I have 3 solid shimenawa pieces right now with CV 30-35 but I can't seem to get any crit circlet 😤 for hydro piece I'll just give him the one I have on tartaglia because it has nice substats on CRIT damage and atk%
Can't wait for the new artifact analysis for Xiao, man on a roll with these juicy math!!! Ayato and Yae Miko seem to start a new trend with how they got a little extra scaling from different stats than ATK instead of dedicated stats conversion to ATK like Hu Tao, Itto or Noelle, not sure it would be super prevalent but taking Ayato to Lv. 90 would be a significant jump along with some artifact rolls, still this HP approach might just be a little bit better than Yae's EM case.
I have a complete set of hod, but I will still farm in the new domain, the two piece of the artis there are godsent
Did the math (and re-did after the buff) for Atk% vs HP% but forgot my findings, so seeing this video get uploaded just now was great. Really thorough but concise information.
wrong calculation bro…consider enemies resistence and def, bruh u already made 2 videos and now this..i know it gives you view and that gives you money but this is misleading. don't do that..
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It sucks that I have to skip ayato for ayaka and kazuha but it’s worth it in the long run considering ayato is more likely to get his rerun compared to ayaka and kazuha having their second rerun sooner
so his build similar to hutao
The new set that has a chance at doing 60% of you Atk as bonus normal damage is worse than HoD and Shimenawas because it doesn't have good odds of activating.
i was planning to go for a full HP and hydro dmg build on ayato as a sub dps. 2pc HOD + 2pc noblesse. i was planning on using him as an enabler for my other characters like keqing and ayaka instead of using him as a main dps. I already have a lot of main dps characters like hu tao on my roster so i'm starved of hydro supports since there's only 1 xingqiu in the game haha. i'm hoping if i lose 50/50 on him i get mona instead but i can only pray.
So many units can buff his ATT,
non unit so far provide HP buff
You always ask the right questions my guy … Thank you 🙏
I know this seems like a joke but I'm planning to put qiqi on his comps lol, with 4 sets of milelith. I always want to use qiqi in my comp but its hard to fit her in.
This is only wishful thinking, but I hope his passive with his clone is tweaked a bit, because with Ayato skill granting him Wave Flash stacks it sort of renders his clone passive to be completely useless. I'd even bet Ayato users, such as myself will be able to gain full stacks before the clone is even grazed especially considering on use of the skill you gain 2 stacks off rip. The passive being dependent on his clone exploding after being hit I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong), almost turns it into a game of chance. I think a somewhat more beneficial passive tweak could be something like, when the clone is actively on field Ayato gains a hp% boost and will explode after taking enough hits; something like that. Just an overall small dmg gain for his kit but nothing major like his c2. Don't get me wrong tho I still love this characters playstyle, and he looks to be ridiculously versatile able to fit into many team comps. Sorry of this is a little lengthy but thanks for reading, and if yall hold a similar opinion let me know how you'd tweak/change his clone passive. I'd love to hear other suggestions or thoughts.. anyways, happy grinding travelers.
I feel you man. Idk why hoyoverse keeps adding in the nonsense of some bs bonus stat for it to mean almost nothing. Like release these units at their best not with these meaningless bonuses. It might be to help build the units easier so players have more options but I feel like it just holds back the characters imo. I liked it more when characters were just straightforward and it was basically "build this and they'll kick butt" 😂
Low key i want him to be a burst dps so ill give him the eblem set and i dont know what sands to give him i will also make a main dps sett but for now i want him to be a brust dmg
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@SmackDaddyKing hey man wanted to let ya know that your ayato videos are quite helpful man love ya but in my case i'm finna run him on 4HOD with blackcliff sword with is stats as 54critrate% 176critdamge% sands(atk%) and his HP% substat is 42.2% and ATK%substat is at 32% soo do you think this is being pragmatic dawg??
actually i wonder if the new artifact set is better than shime. consistent 50% bonus vs like maybe 6-8 procs of the new 4 set artifact. considering that the new 4 set can proc on non-crit hits and non-vape hits, i think shime is probably the best artifact set for him. i also tried running some calcs for dmg between att% and hp%.
Average dmg not including vapes using stats shown in video:
Att% build: new set
lets say the new set procs 7 times.
total scaling% from elemental skill (15 hits in 6s):
(104.55% + 116.45% + 128.35%) * 5 = 1746.75%
((3640 * 17.4675) + (809 * 15)) * 1.986 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 67668 non-crit dmg
dmg from procs:
2548 * 1.986 * 0.5 * 0.9 * 7 = 15940 non-crit dmg
67668 + 15940 = 83608 total non-crit dmg
83608 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%) = 217794 average dmg per e
Att% build: shime
((3640 * 17.4675) + (809 * 15)) * 2.486 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 84704 non-crit dmg
84704 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%) = 220650 average dmg per e
shime set has slightly higher dps on elemental skill assuming no vapes.
hp% build: new set
((2866 * 17.4675) + (1326 * 15)) * 1.986 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 62516 non-crit dmg
dmg from procs:
2007 * 1.986 * 0.5 * 0.9 * 7 = 12555.6 non-crit dmg
62516 + 12555.6 = 75071.6 total non-crit dmg
75071.6 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%) = 195557 average dmg per e
hp% build: shime
((2866 * 17.4675) + (1326 * 15)) * 2.486 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 78255 non-crit dmg
78255 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%) = 203850 average dmg per e
shime set has quite a bit higher dps on elemental skill.
in both scenarios (att% vs hp%), shime set has higher dps overall on skill. if accounting for vapes, shime is also likely to be higher since you need rng to proc the new set effect the same time that you vape. somewhat inconsistent dmg on vapes with new set since you now need to pass 2 rng checks instead of 1.
EDIT: calcs for his burst.
att%:
((3640 * 0.9903) + (18226 * 3%)) * 1.586 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 2962 non-crit dmg per hit
2962 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%)) = 7715 average dmg per hit
hp%:
((2866 * 0.9903) + (29870 * 3)) * 1.586 * 0.5 * 0.9 = 2665 non-crit dmg per hit
2665 * (1 + (72.1%*222.6%)) = 6942 average dmg per hit
so basically you are right, there is no reason to run hp% main stat since att% in just better in all situations.
what about the mistsplitter since it has the highest base atk
Great videos as always man thanks
I am torn between ayato and yelan so I will wait for her kit when ayato’s patch comes and the one that I like will be my first hydro 5atar
You could build ayato with HP sands then just use bennet for atk as we don’t really have any characters that increase HP?
Can u analyze team dps too? Also try TF ayato, it’s a 100% uptime in a taser comp with his e
Very nice, I have awesome HP pieces in Shim set and Depth of Heart set, I will try HP instead of Atk
Can you do the same thing for mistsplitter and PJC coz the atk% sands will scale a lot better with mistsplitter but hp% sands may still be better for PJC
This made me feel better about my 19%hp 4 substat double crit HoD feather
Hi Smack!
What about the Hydro Set? I felt like that would be a good set for him, just looking at it I imagine atk would be better for that, but I am no maths guy, so
Using Jade Cutter, I can def use HP sands and I just got one with Crit substats too and em, im really excited