Who is Pantalone? [Genshin Impact Character Lore and Theory, V3.4]



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45 thoughts on “Who is Pantalone? [Genshin Impact Character Lore and Theory, V3.4]”

  1. I agree that we probably won't get a pantalone boss fight, but I just wanna go through a what if scenario.
    I agree pantalone is probably never gonna intentionally confront us, but what if we back him into a corner? what if we beat him at his own game, scheme harder than him, until he has no choice but to fight us? I could see a scenario where we fight him then.
    it could make for a cool moment, we think we've won after going through a bunch of mental gymnastics to beat him, only for him to unleash some crazy power.

    but like I said, I agree that we probably won't fight him. there's 11 harbingers and the tsaritsa. that's a lot of potential bosses, but at the current rate of weekly bosses, there's not enough space to fit all of them, especially since that would mean not having bosses based on a specific region and exclusively fighting harbingers as bosses.
    that is, unless they start doing more weekly bosses per region, but we don't really have any proof yet that they'll do that, so we can't use that as a reason why we'll get to fight every harbinger.

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  2. So if Pantalone is basically a merchant then he is basically the most dangerous Harbinger, please hear me out.

    War requires funding as does the success of any market. Finances influence politics and the growth of industry. To say the Archons have no use for Mora is to misunderstand how it functions as a catalyst. It is not merely a status symbol but a means of cultivating one's people. The fact that the Archons do not utilize mora is more of a statement on how they wish to fill an advisory role then manipulate their people directly.

    Do not forget, Mora is indeed a catalyst for change. It can be used to fuel industry, to cultivate the land, to secure one's borders, to develop new technologies and in short to grow a nation. To suggest it is not the very hearts blood in war is to misunderstand how wars are even fought. Everything in life is an investment, especially when it comes to one's time and personal development, every choice a gamble playing the odds to eventual outcomes. To simply ignore this fact is to accept a static life in which you surrender your choice to the decisions of other's who may not always have your interests at heart.

    However Mora as a catalyst is without purpose with no mind to guide it. Information itself has a much greater value and as such it is often the priority investment. See Ningguang as a reference.

    In short if the Regrator is a merchant manipulating Mora and Information then he is perhaps the greatest Alchemist amongst the world. And I call attention to this specifically to shine light on the achievements of Alchemy has repeatedly brought the world to its knees and resulted in the deaths of multiple Archons at various times. We may never directly fight Pantalone but by proxy we will forever be at war with him, that's the danger he represents.

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  3. I never will stop finding it funny when there is an opera GX add because I already use it lmao

    I wonder if the new leak hunt decree of hoyoverse trying to get the info of the leakers account has helped minimize the ammount of leaks on twitter;;; I really wish things would only stay on character kit leaks and never go into story/lore territory, specially when it's about the harbingers, khaenri'ah and major plot points

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  4. Pantalone is manifesting himself in interesting ways in this game. Did anyone else pick up on the fact that the knights had to go ask Diluc for money for some of the Weinlesefest stuff, despite the fact that Albedo is funding their charity efforts with his painting copyright? With the Fatui continuing to remain in Mondstadt, despite their business being concluded, it makes you wonder if someone isn't manipulating the Knight's funds as a way to weaken them to specific interests.

    Since the production of Mora has essentially ceased, I feel like that has to play a factor at some point. It wouldn't surprise me if Pantalone isn't gathering up all the Mora he can to get leverage over individuals like Ningguang and Diluc, and also get leverage on the Governments of Teyvat. I don't think they'll go that deep with it though.

    It also wouldn't surprise me if he isn't older than he looks. With Dottore being outted as 400+ years old, there's a high chance that Pantalone could be every bit as old as that. Snezhnaya didn't become an economic power house overnight, nor did they get the money required for all their insane plans in the last 20-30 years, which would be within Panatlone's natural lifespan.

    It feels like hoyo is setting it up that the four recruited by Pierro were all discovered/recruited around the same time. If this is true, then it's also worth noting that the Pale Flame bunch were all alive before the cataclysm or they were born in the period directly after, when the world was essentially in peril. This could explain their eagerness to join the Fatui. Dottore, Signoria, Scaramouche (Not as Much), & possibly Pantalone all witnessed and suffered through the effects of the Cataclysm. This could be what fuels his hatred of Celestia and Morax specifically. Liyue was suffering due to the impacts of the Cataclysm and Morax/The Adepti did nothing to help in the aftermath.

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  5. Okay, this is just because of their aesthetics but if Pantalone is Liyuen could he be related to Yelan. So could it be that she stole her brother's jacket? And we know Hoyo makes siblings similar with looks so…?

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  6. Considering that we recruit every other Harbinger that we fight, this one might be another one we sort of befriend.

    I mean, what businessman would not want to invest in an immortal demigod from another world?

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  7. great video and i liked the information you put out! but i was wondering if maybe in your future videos u could add subtitles? adhd makes it hard for me to solely focus on listening, i need subtitles to read as well, and the auto-generated ones are so wildly off. like when u would say snezhnaya, it would combine with the word u just said, and liyue changes so leeway, and the subtitles can never pick up dottore nor arlecchino. also with the auto-generated subtitles in mind, it would make it harder for the deaf to watch your videos as well.

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  8. I wonder could pantalone be an alchemist?
    we know mora is the catalyst for all the reactions, so it would definitely fit his character that he can use mora for alchemical reactions that maybe can even make him stronger or stuff like that

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  9. by the by, Columbina is actually an American bird, family of the doves (mostly Latin and Central, connected propably to Natlan) specifically that has red eyes and pink feet, comes always in pairs when possible and has a specific dark tone on her wings when she launches to fly.

    i think it fits for our beautiful lady bird

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  10. I kinda had a sneaky suspicion theory that Baizhu and Pantalone are like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde i mean someone who seeks to cure an incurable illness and fears death is bound to create something that may have strange properties and how Baizhu drip marketing description said a "unknown person" tore a piece of paper from Qiqi's notebook may been to cover up something so she'd forget

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  11. I like Pantalone bcuz I'm a great fan of the overarching thread of mere mortals who didn't get a vision aspiring to do great things. We don't even know the Tsaritsa's side of the story, so who knows? Maybe ideals that the Fatui pursue are the right ones?~~

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  12. I think Mr. Pants and Zhongli are going to have some sort of confrontation, Pantalone's comment about money being the "blood" of the world in the Pale Flame set and Zhongli's line on the Geo Gemstone resonate too well for it to be just a coincidence.

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  13. I always saw Pantalone as Ningguang's origin parallel. Both started poor but Ningguang focused on a "make do with what you have here and now" determination, while his came from his burning desire to find an answer to his questions; with his raging determination aimed towards the gods and their seemingly nonsensical handlings of all facets of their wealth.

    It kinda goes to show how much a mindset can fuel a person to reach similar levels of power even if their means may have been very different from each other. I wonder then what the battle of the wealthy will look like among humanity of Teyvat, now that Mora production has come to a halt.

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  14. The deeper understanding he has about mora is how mora is an alchemical catalyst
    We use up mora for things, not because anyone is charging us but because it is literally an ingridient
    That's how he will be powerful and why he allied with dottore, to better understand it and weaponize it
    That's my view on it tho
    Might be wrong

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  15. Really like how much Pantalone and Ningguang seem to parallel one another, they're sort of mirror characters in that regard (Especially if Pantalone is actually from Liyue). Both grew up poor and destitute, but while one chose to use their wealth to benefit those around them, the other opted to use it to fulfill their own selfish desires.

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  16. Pantalone boss fight: Instead of an actual fight it's a game where all you have to do is win more money than him during a time limit

    But honestly he is one of the more interesting harbingers to me because I'd like to know how much is he actually doing behind the scenes. Money can get you just about anything and the possibility that he and Dottore have some shady business makes me wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes. Is he just a manipulative businessman or does he have connections to some sort of black market? As he is the one behind the Northland Bank could that mean the bank itself is involved in any sort of shady activity? Could he have been funding Dottore's experiment to make Scaramouche a god? These are questions that I look forward to having answered

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