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last video was going over the new dain quest in 4.7 “bedtime story” that apart of the archon quest series. there were some highs and lows in the quest, 5 sinners of khaenriah was cool, interaction with the sibiling was meh, dain wasent really present throughout the quest, concerns about too much memory manipulation in the story, but caribert was lovely at the very least. i enjoyed his scenes if nothing else. also heavenly principles still asleep is pretty funny. today going over the biggest reveal in the quest, the 5 sinners of khaenriah. two brand new names , new names are always fun. not many theories I could pull from it though lol, its still all a bit up in the air. also I saw the emilie leaked gameplay and dripmarket. interesting choice to release another witch around this time.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:56 5 Sinners Accolades
2:25 Sinners and King Irmin
5:34 The Wise Hroptatyr
6:12 Rächer of Solnari Rerir
8:06 Vedrfolnir
10:43 Surtalogi/Rhinedottir
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I guess we got to take care of those 5 sinners before confronting Celestia
1:51 The pronunciation of "Rächer" to me suggests German although Wikipedia says the sigil for a-umlaut (ä) is common to a number of Germanic languages ("Finnish, Swedish, Skolt Sami, Karelian, Estonian, Luxembourgish, North Frisian, Saterlandic, Emilian, Rotuman, Slovak, Tatar, Kazakh, Gagauz, German, and Turkmen"). Several of these languages are not made up.
8:10 clearly each of the "Sinners" has a specialty which they are pursuing whether it's wisdom, fighting, fate, alchemy or killing Arlecchino's relatives off. Dain's own specialty is pissing people off by running out before he explains anything. The Seventh Sinner is perfecting the ability to rip the end of those 12 packs of soda off cleanly in one go. Apparently Abyssal energy helps with all these perfections.
Yig dra sil
Btw do you have any opinions on the theory of the 6 Pillars of Khaenri'ah being the Pygmies in the book series "Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies". When i read through it with this perspective it actually made quite a alot of sense.
So. The fatui have someone like Arlecchino who can use her blood fire to erase memories, like, the loom of fate. 🤔
i cannot wait for more info bc although we don’t have much info, i can’t imagine an outcome where the five sinners or the abyss order are in the right, or how the abyss sibling could see dain as a traitor.
THE 5 SINNERS OF KHANRIAH that should have same insane delivery like THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS
Well.
I thought the same. The blind dwarf / the visionary. The one who wanted to use the prince's body to make the garden bloom – Gold.
Onlookers, the pygmy who "repented" hid the prince's body in a hole. Don't you remember what Deinsleif did to the earth cultivator's eye? Another question. What kind of power does this eye have?
I'm going with no true villain. Tsaritsa/Fatui, Abyss, Sinners, Khaenri'ah, and Celestia….they're all doing or have done terrible things to innocents in the pursuit of what they truly believe are good intentions or as a response to something terrible.
Except Caribert. Screw him. Bro made Fate of Loom happen, endanger all of Teyvat yet again just to fulfill his own wish that stems from Abyss and Khaenri'ah actions in the first place.
I think Kaeya's father is Irmin. 😮
As Crepus is Kaeya's adoptive father.
What if ageria is one of the sinners bc not all sinners are from beyond the
Yggdrasil is commonly pronounced ig-dra-sil
chance of primordial one 70% also ifuckin love the name RERIRRRR
I would say that these Six may be in referance to the Six Cardinal Sins considering Dain is the only (for now) remaining person from Khaenri'ah who still remembers his origins (even if its eroding) and is one of the six prominent figures and strong fighter from the Fallen kingdom. (Kaeya and Peirro don't strike to me as someone whos powerful nor influencial like on Dain's level)
It won't be a stretch to consider him to be sinner in someway or the other. We have to unravel that for ourselves, besides hasn't he already asked to duel us at the "end of the journey" and that we "demand him to step aside" ? From the Travail Trailer.
Back to Dain and the 5 sinners, they could very well represent the Six Cardinal Sins form Sumeru's Akademiya (we should also remember that Akademia was founded 1000 years ago, meaning it could be still be around during the Crimson Dynasty).
The Six Cardinal Sins are as follow:
1.Interfering with human evolution
2.Tampering with life and death
3.Delving beyond the universe
4.Investigating the origin of words
5.Revering gods without acts of devotion
6.Attempting the forbidden and fearing none
You can very well see that some actually links with each of the sinners like "Gold, Rhinnedotirr" and her obsession with creating "lIfe" from Alchemy, to a point she created beings using Abyssal Powers defiling the meaning of life and tampering with death (her creations technically can never cease to exists)
Though its just speculations. I would definitely dwell on this.
Too many plot alterations. I cant even comprehend which side are we really on😢
Rhinedottir having world shattering power, and powers to create life wasn't enough that she went after the "Heart of Naberius" she'll probably return with a hermonculus God on her side
The sinners sound sus asf but I'm not sure if Dain can be trusted… I mean, Alice knows Gold from the hexenzirkel and, as the coven's Elder, probably knows what all of them are up about. Still, she chooses to leave Klee, her own child, in Teyvat of all places. Maybe she left her in Mondstadt because it's the gateway to Celestia, and could be the "safest" place to be, but… idk. Maybe she has an agreement about not letting them mess with Mond? Who knows. As always, abyss sibling quests leave more questions than lore drops
If I'm not wrong
They spoiled the whole book long time ago
When Dain mentioned he has an older brother all I can think of is that he’s Sasuke and his brother is like itachi. Funny enough, Dain and Sasuke share the same english VA, Yuri Lowenthal.
1:34 props for effort
@8:17 You're really going through it with these names lmao
could it be possible that irmin himself is among the five sinners? maybe the wise hroptatyr. because if i’m not mistaken didn’t he disappear before khaneriah fell
Thank you Heavenly Principles!
Deinsilf too short sign
Not back and white
Fates can't be changed
Calamity going to happen fight Heavenly principle was right call
I’m honestly impressed with Dainsleif’s VA for saying the names of the sinners that well as well as Rerir’s title. Genshin really does have some very difficult names
I wanna see MC Bury the 5 Sinners in their Graves and force their Sibling to Cease all Involvement with the Khaenrhi’ahns!!!
The smash cut to Dain pronouncing the names
The more villains that come out the more I wonder how much the traveller will be involved in the end 😂they couldn’t even beat arlecchino let alone all the ones coming lol
Ain't no way Hoyo is gonna go the cliche route of having The Sinners actually be the bad guys. That would be so fucking garbage. I really hope they are smarter than that.
I believe based on the lies and truth manipulation in Teyvat that they know the truth of this world and are only labeled "Sinners" because THP doesn't like anyone knowing the truth. Since it threatens THP's existence.
This is most likely why Zhongli let his Gnosis be taken. He knows THPs is really the bad guy. Please, Hoyo, let The Sinners be the true good guys! The best twist! This would also mean that Dain is misguided, believing himself to be on the good side. I think he will later realize he has to switch sides and will help save The Sustainer from being deceived into obying THP. She must be the one he was talking about saving in the Travail Trailer.
I wanted to play thru the quest before commenting on your videos so sorry about the delayed response
It was interesting quest and your video was excellent in explaining; but it left me with even more questions in terms of the Fatui's plans till I had the sudden though: What if one of the Sinners usurped The Primordial One/Heavenly Principles and is running the show so to speak. Maybe the Tsarista and her followers are not fighting against the Heavenly Principles but are trying to aid them in some way?
You’re like the GameTheory Matpat of genshin
Watch genshin call them the 6 Knights of Black
6:12 when insanity slowly arise😂
I said this in previous video but I don't think vinster king and king irmin are the same people
The vinster king CN wording is Dark king or black king
Hroptatyr the wise shares one of the names Odin wS known for
It is possible the Hroptatyr is king irmin and the vinster king is the entity of Abyss
The vinster king is talked in a same manner as how it was talked about in sumeru for abyss when it was invading the khaenri'ah vinster king from all the things is a being of abyss not khaenri'ah a king which was stoic
THE DICKRIDER OF PRIMORDIAL ONE HAS COME FORTH ONCE AGAIN 🗣🔥🙏💯‼
You kind of have to remember that the abyss seems to be its own entity, in its own right. Like we know the dragons were battling against the abyss, like Khaenri'ah was back before the nation went Kaboom. Its an entity that will actively use the ambitions and emotions of another against the 'Light' side. What probably happened is that the 5 sinners were so very desperate to defy fate (likely the destruction of the nation, as seen from a prophecy) that they ended up overusing abyssal power and became corrupted by it.
In a sense they might be like demi-god puppets for abyss, who think they are in control of their powers.
As for the sibling, the abyss probably turned their homesickness and nostalgia against them. The moment they met chlotar, it was like witnessing someone begin to give up and walk away from the light. (What's the chance that joining the abyss order actually lessened their chances of finding the traveller. /headcanon)
Not to mention that dain's brother likely manipulated the shi outta them too since i guess he's the at probably at least a huge influence on abyss order's decisions??
Like ik they're doing the whole "the ends justify the means even ik its messed up" thing. But there's a massive chance they're probably being used, if the sibling is the "abyss" to them, then of course the 5 sinners need to have them under their foot. All through the pressure of liberating Khaenri'ah from fate. It's not looking good for them rn.
It's definitely heading down the "I will change your mind, by physically beating the f out of you" route, like we did with raiden.
Of course we don't know everything, hopefully we see dain in fontaine and that natlan maybe gives us something that switches things up in favour of the abyss order or fatui's goals.
dainsleif got away easy with the name, his brother on the other hand……
Keep in mind that Targalia’s power from the Abyss is the “Foul Legacy”. On that note I do not think you can outrule that Tartaglia’s power comes from Sirtalogi himself. Especially since Sirtalogi is “The Foul”. The power of the abyss he wields is not from Skirk but rather from one of Sinners. It looks like our resident warmonger will continue to be an integral part of the story from here on out.
do you think pierro is Dainsleif's brother?
Dainslief must be powerful AF if he is trying to fight 5 ascended beings and the Abyss sibling. Even the abyss sibuling said that Dain is stronger.
I don't think that the Vinster King is Irmin. That's because Irmin is already one of the 5 sinners: Hroptatyr is just another name for Odin, just like Irmin – here, valueing him being a "Sage", therefore he is "the Wise". WIsdom is what Odin most seeks, and also bringing back the Silver Twig, wich is wildly known that talks about Odin'ts story about seeking unknown knowledge, he is referenced there as "A sage". Therefore, Irmin wasn't just Khaenri'ah's King, he was a Sage King who became one of the Sinners.