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I DIDN’T REALIZE RATHEIL ALSO MADE A VIDEO ON THIS T_T I recorded this last week and only had time to edit it this week. I SWEAR IT’S A COINCIDENCE.
Your reaction to Aloy was disgusting.
I wish they add rerun banners with 7 days time limit irrespective of the patch and let the banners keep coming. This will help us all get the character and their constellation quickly. Like we literally have to wait months and months just for a rerun character's constellation. 😭
The answer is that no character advertised as limited should be added to the standard banner. They could do something new with banners but adding old characters to standard would be firstly false advertising and secondly there would be too many standard characters
I feel every Geo 5 Star could be added to standard except for Zhongli himself
Are you even taking into consideration that if a character were to be added to standard people could acquire their constelations more easily and many of those characters released as limited have very strong ones? Characters meant as standard have significantly weaker constellations and eg Chiori c6 is very strong
The constellations of characters from fontaine and natlan are very strong. It would be a win if you lose your 50-50 to Wriothesley, Lyney and Chiori constellations.
Personally, I don't think any existing featured 5 star character should be made permanent. Putting any character and their weapon on the permanent banner, means they will never be seen again; It just dilutes the pool too much. I also think it would insult some fans, and devalue these characters further. I just can't get on board with this idea. Even more radical, I think they should just get rid of the permanent banner ,and replace it with the chronical wish style banner, that turns over each month. better yet, where is that third banner?
The only answer that is right is ANY unit that either already ran once get added to standard after or after getting a re run already. The re runs show that 99% of the time no one even pulls for them unless its a meta unit, and hoyo is the ONLY GATCHA company that doesnt add to the standard banner after. Its a joke and its honestly predatory because they think people are still gonna spend money on klee in 2024
DO ANOTHER ONE FOR WEAPONS, IM CURIOUS
i wonder how much fandom appeal has an impact on this as well
I think you have to consider c6 or at least early constellation, not c0 for permanent tier characters because this is what you can get eventually on a long run; some characters in 'permanent' and 'good for concideration' tier have too broken c6 or c2-4, especially newer ones. I mean, it is nice to get good things for free, but whale things make sense to keep behind paywall, otherwise powercreep will be insane if you want newer character to be keep up.
stil no Geo in the standard banner
I got Liney kinda for free…
I saved 150 wishes for Arlechinno, after 70 wishes i lost my 50/50, and after 60 i got my guaranteed Arlechinno. Even though i got her, i was sad that i spent so many pulls, so i spent 10 wishes on Liney and got him :v
I geared him up, but with Arlechinno right beside him he got on the bench pretty much imediatly after i geared him up 😅
Nilou I missed her 2nd cause I was paused on playing during rerun & Emilie are the 2 I want bad for my acct
Everyone from year 1 if not half
Ayaka being better than wrio is crazy. Ayaka is good in 1 team freeze and that reaction fell off in Fontaine whereas wrio can use both melt and freeze
Future updates should be considered, too. Notice how Hoyo has found ways to indirectly buff Dehya and the burning reaction when Natlan patch got released. I have a feeling physical damage or shatter reaction may get some attention when Shneznaya becomes accessible. With this in mind, Eula might remain limited until then.
I think there should be a 3rd kind of character banner, basically just the chronicled qish but permanent and if you lose a 5050 on a limited banner, you can get both the standard and the new banner's characters.
What about a chara slot in standard banner that rotate every patches or two? And then give them like 0.0002% higher chance to be summoned.
Aloy should be put into the standard banner, if only for collector's purpose.
Cool video! I actually spoke to one of my friends last time about updating standard banner in Genshin and believe it or not I specifically mentioned : Venti, Klee, Eula, Albedo and Yoimiya are a must have. Also I'm hoping for Xianyun rerun, cause honestly I need her more than most of the natlan characters live everyone else 😭😅🤣
hoyo should just make the chronicled wish permanent (rotating old charachters and weapons) and all problems solved… i do not understand what hacked their brain when the did this banner exactly once. for 3 weeks. like, what. sigh.
Add the characters they gave up on, like Eula and Shenhe. I wouldn’t mind fumbling my way to a C6 Eula by the end of the game
EDIT: I don’t appreciate this kind of unmethodical approach. Basically saying you wish almost all characters where standard. That makes it completely pointless
I totally agree to your tier list but I think the company will only add future characters to the standard banner because imagine if someone got like a C6 character who’s been powercreept they spend hundreds of dollars and suddenly the company added that character to the standard banner. It would be triggering and the company would get some backlash or criticism anyway you make great videos 👍 Have a nice day ;D it was just a thought of me no hate 🙂
I’ve been saying they should just make region banners. The older the region, the lower the pity must reach before pulling a 5*. Maybe Fontaine and Natlan would still be the normal price and pity, but each region later drops pity required to pull a 5* by a bit. Maybe the lowest could be 40 pity.
Flooding standard banner with a ton of characters doesn’t fix the issue of not being able to pull for rarer characters. In some ways, it makes it worse
They could just put year one character in there. And do this year by year.
Putting archon in permanent banner is wild
Arlecchino will never be standard. Her constellations make her do literally millions of dps (in seconds).
15:59 by broken you mean easily replaceable but sure
Lyney would get so much better if there was a pyro character that drained hp to make a shield and give a dmg bonus so he could run without zhongli
as a klee (and scara) main and Venti lover i would go crazy happy if they add them in the standard banner, like i would constantly pull on the standard banner if that happens
Geo daddy is the most wanted character everyone is using him. He is so strong he is a support. He is too strong to be on the standard.
PLEASE BE ALBEDOOOOO
Venti is so bad now he'd unironically be one of the worst characters on the standard banner. His ult might as well say "only does anything against the most irrelevant enemies"
i honestly don't think they can do that unless the 5★ has been advertised from the start as coming to standard after the patch they debuted in ended. if that counts as false advertising, they can get into serious trouble.
HSR style triple banner might be one of the few ways to have faster reruns but that will come at a cost.
Chronicled is fine with Monstadt, Liyue and Sumeru since they have 2-3 characters on Standard, but Fontaine and Inazuma lacks standard characters.
Given how often they like to rerun Archons (and Neuvilette), i don't think they should to go standard. so are the Harbingers.
of course, there are other games they could've borrowed idea from. and in my experience, they have separate ways to "rerun" limited cards faster than usual. these examples will be from games that i played:
Game A holds a special birthday banner for one of their 52 characters. granted you can only used paid currency to pull here, but spending those paid currency also rewards you a skin / costume (and additional cosmetics) on top of being a guaranteed max rarity card of that character. unfortunately, the guaranteed rainbow might not be a limited card. they also do limited reruns on the end of feb, may, aug and nov. on top of that, getting a duplicate of a card you already own instead gives you a prismatic material that can be used for any card of the same rarity.
Game B has 2 "standard" banners, with one being the actual standard and the other was for the "Another" variant. Another variant started as limiteds (but was never referred to as a limited). as the number of "Another" type characters begin to increase, they implemented the "Another" banner, which has 3 different characters with increased rates on every week. also, their standard banner has a featured trio as well, which gives a higher odds of getting a specific standard character.
An interesting video but there's way too much personal bias to progress the discussion beyond, "I like this character and I don't like this character." A more valuable guide would have been based off use rates in the Abyss and banner sales. Still, the conversation about the Standard Banner is something worth talking about. I just watched a new video from Juice on the infrequency of Acquaint Fates, so it looks like the SB is a topic going around again.
Worst takes ever.
Simple fix: Element rerun.
Here is your newest limit character in banner 1.
Here is your rerun banner 2; this patch it is Cryo, pick which Cryo character you want to pull for (just like you pick which weapon you pull for, or the special rerun we had a freaking year or so ago)
I just thought that the right candidates to be included in the permanent banner are characters who has slightly worst/not so broken constellations. Therefore, Characters who has broken cons, should never be in permanent banner. Hoyo wants the players to pull for their cons anyway not just for C0.