An analysis of Xiangling’s spot in the meta at this point in the game
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00:00 How Xiangling Emerged
00:54 Why Xiangling Is So Good
01:51 Overreliance On Bennett
03:02 Xiangling’s Limits
04:10 Where She Can Be Replaced
05:22 Energy Issues
05:54 Good But Restricted
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One of the main reasons why I never really liked playing Xiangling as much is that her ER issues are such a turn off to me and I frequently find I have to consciously funnel particles to her much more than I do with my other burst reliant characters. In Raiden national it’s fine thanks to Raiden and mono pyro helps work around ER requirements but I generally don’t really like playing comps where I have to either funnel energy into a character or run one or two characters on fav and potentially take a significant dps loss just to work around one character’s burst.
Ok, here's the thing: it is true that a lot of her potential is tied to Bennett, but the reason for that is pretty obvious, she is the BEST character to be paired with Bennett, since she's the only one that benefits the most from him. Sure, you can try Bennett with other units, such as Wanderer or Xiao, but they won't benefit the most from him. In the case of these two, Bennett's area turns into a mobility issue, a weakness Xiangling doesn't have. As you mentioned, I don't think Hoyoverse'll ever release a char with such a good synergy with Bennett, so her place as the best unit with him is already written in stone.
And yeah, Xiangling has energy issues, that's part of the reason why Bennett is her best partner, and, even then, she needs some energy investment. The thing is, her ability to snapshot and the absence of an ICD on her ult makes her really good in terms of dmg, even if she doesn't have a good build. I've seen Xianglings with mediocre stats doing equal or even more dmg than a properly built carry. The duo is so strong that sometimes you can just ignore other teams and clear the abyss in time. As long as you need dmg to clear in time and there's nothing hindering their synergy, they'll get the job done, sometimes even better than hyperinvested teams.
I think you are trying way too hard on this video.
This is so true. I have massive issue with Xiangling's ER even though I always put high investment on my support (Xiangling included). The only time that I can fully abuse her pyronado is when she's with Raiden–which in my case, is C6. When she's with my Childe National, Kazuha has to sacrifice some of his EM so he can use Favonius to gather ER for Xiangling. That's just my personal take with Xiangling based on my OWN personal experience. Still love her as an off-fielder regardless. And yeah. It's kinda sad to think that she's tied with Bennett most of the time.
OPPA
Just as you said, shes highly reliant on bennet but its not as a big issue as before since theres many teams that dont use him and no matter how many characters you do have you can only use 2 teams in spiral abyss anyway, so i would say shes still one of the better dps options even just for she lets you benefit bennetts buff more
Most bait video ever
OPPA
Me who plays Sukokomon: Benny who?
Xiangling being tied to bennett its not a problem anymore since many new team dont need benny. Shes still a character that does something broken that the other do not,thats really valuable
But the games really need someone to replace her even with less damage but with maybe with more utility
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Jokes aside. I personally still really value xiangling highly. It might just be a lowly f2p non relatable perspective, but in the end xiangling is still a free 4 star character, that can surpass most DPS characters in this game. I might not have the best DPS characters (xiao, ganyu), but my hyperinvested xiangling definitely is stronger than my personal hyperinvested 5 star carries. That being said I also think that her "value" is really high, even if she was slightly weaker, because of the "my xiangling is this strong anyways, why would I need to spend primos for similar strenght"
And yeah it definitely feels like there is not a single situation (or at least has been so far), where xiangling national or international is weak. And if it means anything: for me she felt better to play than any carry I played so far (not necessarily playstyle, but the team feels much stronger somehow)(reaction/quickswap are usually the best though).
As for the Bennet reliance I used to think of this as a big problem, but with the dendro addition it has become irrelevant for me because hyeprbloom doesn't need Bennet duh.
So yeah as XL OPPA main: Xiangling Gigachad is still the best, BROKEN
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I do not quite understand what the author wanted to say. Must be paired with Bennett? As well as ALL characters who plays dendro reaction must be paired with Nahida. It's a game about building teams, about units synergy. Energy recharge? Yes, because in the game it is called BALANCE, even Yelan has problems with energy recharge. Maybe only Xingqiu doesn't, but does it make him irreplaceable? as a person who 36*d all cycles and has 60 lvl xingqiu – no. So how do we judge that she's "overrated"? she is the core of the (sigh, doubtfully) strongest national, she can support cryo, she can even help some cursed teams with Xiao/Wanderer as drivers. requires good artifacts? and who doesn't? Nilou, i know. But Nilou is paired with Nahida, again.
the only thing i can agree is that she could be better and if we had someone like her but with 5* stats, she would have the same competition as all hydro + Raiden we have in national at the moment. but! This is the reasoning of the series "if the elephant were a mouse." Hoyovers very rarely release new pyro characters, and when they do, it's… Dehya. One can only wonder if we will get a second Xiangling ever, but speaking for our time i wouldn't call her overrated
This is so true. Even with my ultra invested XL I still don't find a place for her in new team comps (in the current meta) appart from National variants. During the first year of the game or so, yeah, she was extremely broken, but now? Nah, she is just ok but not as broken or versatile as Bennett or XQ.
I only just started enjoying using Xiangling. Me, an AR 60 player with no need to adhere to the meta if I don’t want because I have a beefy account.
I’ve always had er problems even with er weapons and a 4p emblem, and she’s just never been that fun for me to play. I definitely am not denying her damage capabilities though. They’re always solid
I never use her hell I don't use Bennett either lol.
Its telling that outside C6 Yelan (and even then shes replaceable by any pyro off field, she just the most convenient and need R5 EL and bit of cheating), her strongest team is still Childe inter.
I guess Funerational counts too but generally at higher level VV Tao is just as good if not even better with Bennett or Amber.
In general, I would say after the coming of Kazuha, Raiden, the Catch and EoSF, basically early Inazuma, she pretty stagnated in strength.
Her melt team have always been cope.
Overvape, cringe in AoE or need specific enemy line up (sukokomon).
Vape, decent sustained dps but no speedrun potential outside Childe.
Burgeon, too much Pyro proc burning instead.
Burning, double pyro version is bad for now.
Essentially she's carried by Rational for casual usage rate and carried by Inter for speedrun setting.
She is still good but calling her broken is something that never made sense to me post Shenhe/Yelan.
Ayaka/Hu Tao clearly became much more powerful. Same for Haitham now and well invested Wanderer.
I still think XL is broken. It's good to know a character's weaknesses, but all characters have them. Not all characters have ICD-less snapshotting off-field damage with the high scalings and duration of C4 XL. Even adjusting for her ER Reqs, she just does too much damage without taking up field time.
As for being tied to Bennett, most new teams from 3.x don't require him at all, which is simply a good thing, period. Other off-field pyro DPS's being released in the future that are unreliant on Bennett are probably going to just be worse than Xiangling, no competition. Because Bennett's buff and energy gen is pretty broken as well.
Like, TLDR, do you think we're ever going to get a pyro DPS that becomes widely considered to be stronger than Xiangling, on-field or off-field? I just can't see that happening, unless the pyro archon is a DPS.
Most teams have characters that are usually paired with. The concerning part is how a free 4 star character outshines even newer 5 star pyro character releases that also uses bennett.
Well Bennet does benefit many teams , but most Hypercarry teams are not considered top tier simply because they require Bennet and Bennet is better off being with Xiangling.
That's the reason why teams which don't require Bennet are considered top tier like Permafreeze , Hyperbloom, Quicken etc.
So if you think about it Xiangling is so strong with Bennet that its just not worth wasting Bennet for other teams.
And for those who think she requires lots of Investment, no she doesn't , give her 4pc Emblem of Severed fate with average sub stats and balance her crit ratio and give her 200+ ER
(which is possible very easily with R5 Catch and ER sands).
Yes she's restricted to be used with Bennet because he has such good synergy with her.
Also i can't recall any team which uses Bennet but not Xiangling which is better than National team variations.
So i don't see the problem here😂
The new Xiangling now is Kuki Shinobu
the only two things that will potentially separate Benny – XL away from each other are 5 star Benny and 5 star XL, their dynamic is so good, when you get a C1 benny and a C4 XL, you get the one of the most flexible duo in the game aside XQ – Yelan and Fischl – Dendro.
hoyo has been releasing shitty 4 stars and 5 stars so when they finally release the 5 star versions of Benny – XL, players are psychologically starved for stronger units and are pushed to whale for them.
power creep won't exist until Hoyo releases 3 relatively same characters of the same element because of the current state of the Abyss having 2 chambers, you can just bring the other on another floor and you reap relatively similar benefits.
No one can fully utilize Bennett than Xiangling… fuck hypercarry teams, most of them get outdmg by Xiangling anywayss😂😭
the way i've been playing genshin for nearly 2 years and my xiangling is c0. never managed to pull a single constellation. she hates me fr T_T (and i don't get them from paimon because as a f2p, i prefer to get more wishes than getting constellations. i don't use xiangling at all although she is built and lvl 90. maybe one day i will!)
What differs Xiangling is that her restrictions where seemingly aided by mhy unknowingly( or they just love Xiangling sm) they released Emblem which is for Raiden but also ended up lessening the burden of sacrificing attack for er to Xiangling. They released “The Catch” for Raiden but again, ended up buffing Xiangling. Quick tip: use Fav Sword on Xq rather than Sac Sword if ur using him with Xiangling :]]… Xiangling just clears everything in Abyss, like Nilou, she is that good when u build around Xiangling’s niche…
Honestly, this comment section is full of people who just got offended over the title and didn't actually watch the full video. All of your points were very reasonable and well explained, and I agree with all of them. Also, I'm pretty excited for more videos like this one. Take care!
I never thinks Xiangling is the most broken thing ever, especially when Xinqiu, Sucrose, and Bennet exist, but i do think she’s one of the most impressive DPS ever in the game. She gains so much from Bennet compared to other characters, snapshots buffs, can use practically most polearm, most artifact stats are useful for her, she has quite a lot of advantages that even 5* don’t have. And tbh, while she’s practically married to Bennet, i haven’t used Bennet without Xiangling for a while because new characters tend to not reliant on attack buffing that much. Personally, Bennet also loses some edge these days, the new character that can use him is just Dehya, and Dehya certainly can’t be compared with Xiangling from a DPS standpoint.
My current team is xingqui,beiduo,Bennett,and Hu Tao. Is my team comp good???
Shongling 😂
I think most of the hype surrounding Xiangling mostly came from the fact that she is a free 4* dps that, with f2p setups, can match or exceed 5* dps, even to this day. If she were to be released now, maybe as a 5* instead, the hype wouldn't be as much
XL OPPA
Xiangling is still good cheap but now dendro there's more good cheaper options.
XL ER issues are over-exaggerated when her BiS The Catch is Free to obtain coupled with Emblem being one of the best Artifact sets to farm. The fact that Bennett is able to help battery particles into XL during downtime cuts her ER reqs more, not even including other potential factors such as Favge/Xiphos if using Kazuha or the flat ER Generation from Raiden if using Rational.
Additionally, her restriction with wanting to be paired with Bennett is a lot less detrimental pre-Dendro since Dendro comps have raised the DPS Floor, which makes Bennett less contested for team compositions by virtue of having more options.
Yes, she is tied to bennett but is still amazing.
For my case, Childe is mostly tied with her since there's no other character offield can do what she does.
Still, we might have OPPA XL 2.0 but it might be probably be more defensive.
lets say theoretically you have all the characters c6 4 stars and c0 5 stars all at lvl 90
you need to build a team but you can only use the artifacts you get for the 3000 resin. which character/domain you will farm to 36 star abyss
I saw in Zy0xx's guide he said to run "130-140ER% on Xiangling"…
I've been finding less uses for my Sucrose National Team when I have a Hyperbloom and Ayaka Freeze team available,
Yet, I will still build it because there will always been one floor of the abyss on which the National Team will shine
this guy is starting to have questionable takes