We need to talk about 4-stars | Genshin Impact Video Essay



After seeing Xiangling appear on a banner once again, I decided to make a video adressing the inconsistency of 4-star rate-ups in Genshin. There is so much wrong with the 4-star system in this game, yet it could easily be fixed.

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  1. I desperately wanted Kaveh bit got three Kirara and one Ninguang instead. Still no Kaveh for me 🙁
    Worse still you got a free Kirara from the event too. So I got four Kirara in the end and no Kaveh.
    Oh and got one Navia.
    I didnt even pull for the 5* i just wanted Kaveh 😢

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  2. THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVING THIS EXACT SAME RANT FOR MONTHS

    and yes, people DO get unlucky. I have a friend who really wanted Chevreuse. He spent 130 wishes on the banner, got 2 Raiden constellations and ZERO CHEVREUSE

    Another point to add to the conversation: Genshin Impact began with one 5 star per banner period. However, as the number of 5 star characters grew, they started running 2 5 stars per banner sometimes, and making it permanent in Sumeru, so 5 stars don't take too long to rerun (unless you're Ganyu or Shenhe. Seriously, Baizhu, who came out in 3.6, got 2 reruns in less time than it took Shenhe to get one, and Shenhe has yet to get a second rerun EVEN THOUGH SHE CAME OUT IN 2.4). They even made a Chronicled Wish banner so characters like Albedo could rerun. The number of 5 stars has more than doubled since version 1, but they at least made SOME effort to prevent them from becoming too rare.

    You know who else has had their numbers more than double since version 1? 4 stars! Yet Hoyo have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the gacha to prevent them from becoming rarer, so on average, 4 stars went from rerunning every 3-5 banners in version 1 to now rerunning as infrequently as some 5 stars! Seriously, look at the banner history chart on Paimon.moe, it is depressing to see how much less frequently 4 stars now run than they used to.

    It's one of the reasons why, while C6 4 stars were actually F2P-friendly alternatives to 5 stars in version 1, that idea is laughable nowadays (I still remember that one Neuvillette guide I saw that proposed C6 sucrose as an F2P alternative to Kazuha. I got Kazuha before I got Sucrose C1.)

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  3. Im very and i mean VERY lucky with 4*s

    I always seem to get the one i want
    Wanted Bennett
    Got 6 bennets in Yoimiya banner within 70 pulls

    Go C6 dori(yes i wanted her) C6 sucorse (had C0) and C6 xq(had C2) in kokomi banner within 160 pulls

    Got Mika C6 within 70 pulls Shenhe banner (yes i wanted mika)

    Got heizou C6 in 70 pulls in some banner I don't remember

    Got C0 freminet in 20 pulls in childe banner

    C0 to C6 kirara in current nilou banner in 87 pulls

    But ah well my 5* luck is absolutely disastrous

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  4. I actually really wanted xiangling on this banner. I've had a c1 changing for the longest time and atleast wanted some constellations. I spent 70 pulls on the banner and didn't get a SINGLE XIANGLING. I literally got Yelan and was like forget it.

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  5. i was like 71 pity in the Nilou & Navia banner and only got ONE Kaveh when i got ONLY Ningguang, NOT EVEN ONE KIRARA AT LEAST

    im so pissed i had everything ready for my boy but nahhh c4 or c5 Ningguang

    yes im the type of player who will not build a character out of spite f you Ningguang lmao

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  6. There are also other interesting ways this could be fixed, like speeding up rotations quite a bit by:

    – putting different 4 Stars on the 2 banners in the same phase, so a total of 6x 4 Stars having a rate-up in the same phase compared to the 3x we have.

    – putting more 4 Stars as rate-up on a banner, lets say 6x, and then let the player choose 3x 4 Stars of what is offered to have a rate-up. I wouldn't even mind if it can't be changed until the next phase/patch.

    – giving the option to change at least one of the 4 Stars on a banner, if they are already c6.

    – making birthday exclusive banners for ALL characters: Can be done for both 4 and 5 Stars, even. That would guarantee that all 5 Stars will at least run ONCE a year (and they can just be added to the currently existing banner). And for the 4 Stars maybe a guarantee through the Standard banner (this way players would "only" be required to keep their Standard wishes for desired 4 Star characters). I wouldn't even mind if the Banner "disappears" as soon as the "birthday" character has been pulled once.

    It would help a whole lot for sure…

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  7. pfft…if the Genshun devs actually listen that is. They ignore all long term players feedback and only care about the NEw player experience…I mean for crying out loud- they made the Amber Oyutrider Gliding trial of the story MORE easier to do for beginners when it is not difficult whatsoever to clear said story mission. I doubt their going to bother changing the banners pulling system whatsoever as surprise surprise- they see people spending money on getting the five star and think that what matters.

    And know your pain, when Kukui came out I did all 100 pulls myself and NEVER got her once AT ALL, even when she debut for the first time. I never got her. So yeah, its ridiculous how this stupid system works.

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