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LEAKERS HUNT DECREE IS NOW IN FULL FORCE…
I hate leakers, as the YouTube algorithm loves to show videos from leakers on stuff that may happen in the future which just ruins the excitement for when Mihoyo drop their content themselves.
Don't even get me started about spoiler leaks, that really makes me mad…
imagine getting 1 billion dollars in 6 months and not able to give a usable database/wiki, so players still have to rely on 3rd party apps lmao
I don't even bash mihoyo on any platform or whatever.
But this is a phony take. I agree don't harass the workers of the social media team art team and voice actors etc.
But Mihoyo is not a good willed company. Look at what they pulled with Raiden and Beidou. This doesn't encourage trust in consumers. This is why Leakers are necessary.
i can understand players but also mihoyo. as mihoyo you dont want to lose money cause of leaks showing a character not being too good. as a player you wanna save primo/money.
personaly i have saved enough primos as a f2p to pull for 1 5 star at all times and when a new character comes out i look at youtube wait a week and the decite to pull or not. but we will always get a rerun eventualy so i can pull for the character 5-10 months later anyway
i doubt huneyhunter is going anywhere. its not like mihoyo has the right to stop people from talking about leaks or lore or anything to do with the game. the only thing they can make honeyhunter take down are the images and audio recordings of the voice lines, which i doubt mihoyo actally cares about. you can't dmca someone simply for talking about something in the beta.
i like genshin impact and i like pre-farming a uncoming character i want to have…
but i dont like spoilers or leaks.
honey its a very good website the layout its simple and very easy to see, and the beta character now its kokomi and tohma this two its not ¨unknown¨ in teory…but the fact its a leak…
and i understand miyoho s angry too…
i m against leaks from quests or events.I get really excited when I see the trailer for the first time and see new characters, events…
its difficult to say…(my english its bad) if mihoyo reveal the materials maybe it will resolve…maybe
Actually, I have a feeling that miHoYo might want to add Honey content in their HoYoLab. At least, I hope so….except without the leaks.
I generally put my particularly harsh criticism in the surveys because I don't really want to be mean to a specific person and that seems like the only way to do that while also vocalising "fuck your general business practices, you could have a 10/10 but you turned it into a 4/10 for money."
HoneyImpact is good, but when i knew that those web devs, break the contract and seriously mocking mihoyo… I no longer have respect on them, if mihoyo turns their site to ash, if they didn't even tried to apology to mihoyo as the original game creator of genshin impact, they deserved to have their so called one or more years project, turned to ash… I do this not because i'm a fanboy of mihoyo or such, it's because… Never encourage an treacherous act that you called so good just because it makes your life easier while you forget that, genshin is reliant on how their banner sell, this game's life and death is dependent on that.
I liked Honey Hunter… but simply due to all the morons saying "as a low spender" "as a f2p" that they NEED leaks. It's a bs lie. So much bs lying… so f it, kill all leakers. Behead them.
It doesn't make it easier to ration primos… you just save till you see a char you want to roll on. How is that difficult? You have 3 f'ing weeks to decide to roll on them when they come out. You have time. It's all BS.
Let the leaker hunt decree continue till they are all destroyed.
My thing is technically we don't need character leaks to save primos. Like Twitter tells us what the upcoming characters are then at the dev stream we see them in action. Mihoyo won't show multipliers since they can change. Showing the materials early does not help mihoyo. They want us playing the game. Farming counts as playing the game. They give us a reason to play longer each time an update drops. It would be nice if they showed us but it's likely not going to happen. Even if they did this greedy people will still leak. Leaking will always be a problem no matter what mihoyo does.
I’m just happy that Honey Hunter is back. 😇
If mihoyo could just improve their drip teasers by also stating their role that early (which they only reveal a week or so before release) and have them talk about some things and trinkets they like, for example Yoimiya commenting about naku weed or Ei talking about a strange fruit in Seirai that would have been enough hints what to pre-farm.
reminds me of when I was a community manager for tencent games for pubgmobile…so yeeeaah
The way I see Genshin's characters is similar to a package. If they reveal the things needed to be farmed for them, Mihoyo might as well reveal the character details all together. Where is the element of surprise there? This is just like someone preparing a gift for you, but you demand to be told about its details. And then there are leakers who give you the details of the said gift. Now you either become grateful or disappointed, by you are not surprised anymore. You are just there to take it. I can't imagine how devastating that feeling is.
I'm sorry but I'm with Mihoyo in this. Pre-farming for materials through their help is good , but with the way this Honey Hunter addressed this issue is just uncalled for and I'm not gonna be there to support it. You said it, they could've done something to resolve this in a better light. However, they decided to respond in a very crude manner.
It really sucks about Honey because I go there for units I know I will be getting (bc it'll be guaranteed) and I prefarm for them. It's also the only website with all the voicelines available, and I can hear all versions in one place.
I know it's about the leaks, but such a shame to lose this website. And I know MHY won't make one of their own of Honey's caliber to replace the resources we've lost. Their stuff at Hoyolab sucks
So now I just can farm every new material released to certain point or farm them when I have the mood, well it's not bad, I have fun when farm Ayaka when the material needed I can't access yet, seeing the character slowly getting stronger is also satisfaction as well..
i wish mhy would tease charas/events/etc. the way FEH teases new units (2 silhouettes mashed together but you cant really tell what it is) or have at least a single image teaser being like "brr…is it getting cold in here or is it just paimon?" insert qingxin in front of blurred bg of jueyuen karst so its not complete radio silence in terms of new content for months at a time
With the Character Info MYH can easily integrate Ascension/Talent Materials, Ability Scaling etc into the Archive inside the game. When a new character is revealed they should have all of their gameplay info available. I’m a mobile player so exiting the game to look up info on a 3rd party site is such a hassle
I dont understand why miHoyo makes such a drama about genshin leaks while literally allowing youtubers to post the new stuff from beta servers for Honkai impact. Some of those content creators are even officially acknowledge by mihoyo themselves on the "game guides" contests they do every now and then.
Obviously, those videos dont show story/events spoilers but they do show new playable characters, gear, game modes and event rewards from the CN beta versions 1 update ahead of global or even from the global beta servers a couple of weeks before the updates. I understand that both are different games with different goals, but the company that develops and manages both is the same, so they should at least allow the spoiler-free stuff that is useful information for their customers (like most of the info in HoneyHunters) just like they allow it to a certain point for honkai.
I think they should kind of hire honey impact and make it a official gen shin site lol.. and cut out the leaks. Because honey likes to make informative stuff of the game.. Mihoyo likes to make the game and keep leaks away. so its a win win :-D.. A few social initiatives wont dent the wallet of Mihoyo by much.. But i get both sides here .. its a big nono to release leaked stats.. And mihoyo has been extremely generous on people to make their own merchandise and sell it without any commissions.. not many companies do that.
Now where's the traveler when u need him the most xd
If honey hunter only keeps the released characters db, they won't be facing the issue of removal. It is clear that Mihoyo had had a chance to investigate the kind of content each of their target is putting out. To produce a letter like that took months of investigation and lawyer meetings. They also need solid evidence to enforce it on another company. While these ppl happily leaking, Mihoyo is collecting data on them.
The leaks are pretty bad if they can steer the entire community's content creators into referring to a new character by the wrong name. Baal was never referred to as anything other than Raiden Shogun from official sources/in game. It was only due to leakers referring to Ei as Baal that the community started doing the same. That's the kind of harm that can be done by leaks, even over something as small (or as large) as a name.
Just to put it into perspective, I had a feeling Raiden was gonna come soon when Eula came out. So I was able to save enough primos to get her. When information about her materials was leaked, I was able to farm everything preventively, and now I have an almost fully built Raiden. If I didn't have the leaks, I would still be farming talent materials and Mora for the ascension. It literally takes them no time to make a 2 minute video talking about the characters, the abilities, and the materials. Hell, they could probably put that at the end of the current update's livestream, as a sneak peek at the new update, to create more hype for the future content.
The website is useful for me to pre farm materials just like how i use that website to know what materials or determine suitable artifacts, weapon for ayaka and yoimiya. Even for other characters i use honey hunter website to know the mayerial needed. But just those. I never bother to read the lore, hear voicelines
As a summary, the only thing leakers are "helpful" is telling you what to prepare and "expect". But it is not the thing only leakers can do. So what else can they be helpful to actual players and developers and society? None!
A better wiki website? They are not the only wiki site at the end of the day. Mihoyo has their own and it is not that "bad". Leakers are just good looking thieves and robbers pays no respect to contracts.
you're 100% right
Honey impact is pretty useful for pre farming and learning about some upcoming characters, BUT the way they are going about this is stupid and absurd.
you know why leaks ruin the fun? they ruin the present moment for you in the game. this is why some characters like albedo or kazuha were under-appreciated when their banner was up. it's because people are waiting for this 'supposedly' (because of the leak) strong character that you don't wanna miss. players also kept evaluating the company and forget to actually enjoy the game, and ruin other's fun by doing that.
Leaks aside from character banners aren't useful lmao F2Ps are gonna be fine, people should stop acting so dramatic. You guys are too obsessed with this game that you are becoming spoiled. I've never seen a game fanbase anywhere as babied as this. Maybe if you had lives and jobs you wouldn't feel like it is the end of the world. Thieves like Honey deserve it. If you hate Mihoyo and hate their business approach so much then stop playing!
Genshin Impact community crying in the background
FGO JP Peeps: Weaklings!
Genshin Impact Community: What?!
FGO JP Peeps: You don’t know true gacha hell.
The main concern about pre-farm that Atsu mentioned probably could be fixed with better content-creator partnership where they drop the hints on skills and exact pre-farm mats just for the group of content creators who apply and get accepted. So yeah, u dont want leak, we just need better communication and CC program. Easier NDA management and also solving CC dependencies on future content without diminishing any hype.
Value of CC goes up in general too, as they would be the few people with max leveled characters and testing it, giving their impression or opinion on final version of a character. Rather than the hotch-potch of leakers already sending message to community on second day of beta when character can change drastically (remember zhongli or ganyu?).
They leaked everything and I absolutely can not accept that PV and OST were leaked
Thanks for dropping the knowledge
That honey hunter guy, bragging about making 5 digits a month from that website, and adding this (now edited) disclaimer: “Genshit Infarct™ is a registered trademark of MeMeHoYo Co., Ltd. This website is made for educational and research purpose (and us, eating macaroni). Images and data belong to decaying mind of mentally unstable game designer, considering himself a brain-damaged horse suffering from PTSD syndrome, caused by multiple copium infusions and are pretty fictional. Any similarity of names, data or images with resources of gambling waifu game with 3+ ESRB Rating, developed by some third party company, whos whole legal department can't make a clear paragraph in English, are entirely coincidental. Country flag icons are subject of free Flaticon license, made by Freepik © 2021 Honey Impact – Impact DB and Tools."
the leakers deserved this. they already knew the consequences and still did it.
Pre-farming is nice
But not knowing what's to come is also nice
As someone who played Genshin because they're a lore a theory addict, I don't appreciate leaks. On the other hand, as someone who has been doing Gacha since who knows when and is an F2P, leaks are literally the one thing I rely on a lot.
I can understand miHoYo's take on this, and as someone who writes and occasionally uploads on reading websites/apps such as AO3 and Wattpad, having something that has been worked on for days, weeks, maybe months leaked is just a terrible feeling. But I am also a consumer, a reader, a player, and with that said, knowing what to expect and could prepare beforehand is just such a great feeling.
So what I'm trying to say is, consumers shouldn't get too greedy, and on the other hand, creators shouldn't keep the consumers waiting too long. Like how we get an update every 6 weeks, a weekly hint on what's coming is nice. Nothing too major, just tiny stuff that won't give it away; the guessing game never gets old.
This is simply my opinion.
Mhioyo only care about money they dont care about nothing or there players there a selfish gready company
Every game I've played usually has some form of road map of content to hype the players.
Another issue is player testing in an era of partnerships and social media relevancy is not a good idea.
Miyoho has the money to hire a QA staff.
Greetings from Amsterdam lol
The problem with genshin is that all servers are going at the same pace. Usually gacha games have a jp variant or other regions that are out for a year ahead of other releases, which allows a roadmap of already released content for the newer players. Fgo is a great example. Genshin runs all servers at the same pace so leaks will be a huge problem.
We need leak for resource management, its especially important for F2P and low spenders~