Geo was always meant to be the defensive utility for buffing while Anemo was the offensive utility for buffing.
1.0 had Viridescesnt Venerer which you activate with swirl. very easy.
Archaic Petra was activated by picking up crystallize shards. way harder. Add on the domain it was in being paired with Retracing Bolide (basically a fodder set)… Yeah no wonder players never built into Geo units as buffers. The mechanic of picking up crystallize shards was too clunky.
Albedo was basically made to work with archaic petra— his burst gives an extra 125EM after use which was meant to strengthen the shield you gain with crystallize.
Geo has always been “the best offense is a good defense” and Genshin players have historically overlooked defensive utility. Geo isn’t bad, players just had the wrong idea of how the characters were meant to be used.
Lowkey disagree with you i would say currenly cryo is the worst the newer geo charcters are pretty good and xilonen is a bennet plus kazuha and crystalize the reaction is useful for kachina navia and xilonene navia for her dps the other two for the artifact set
I wonder how the perception of geo and anemo would be if they swapped sets. Like, instead of VV for anemo, its for geo, and vice versa for Archaic Petra.
As a geo main i don't find this element bad or boring or weak, but that's bc i like the element. I like how simple it is, and yeah, despite it being "yellow phys" characters are fun to play. At least for me. BUT as a geo main, i as well see why many people are unsatisfied with the element. From the "normal" experience stand point that is. If we talk objectively here, then yeah, geo is underperforming in comparison to other elements. And the problem here is the lack of reactions with some of them. So the geo reaction type should be reworked. For example, a simple change of a crystallize scaling from EM to Def or HP would solve half of the problem, it'd be also great if getting a shiled via crystallized reaction characters would get some sort of buff regardless of the set. And why there's no reaction with dendro is still beyond me. Smth like vines or stun for enemies would be cool idea for geo-dendro. But alas. As i've said i'm satisfied with geo as it is, but i'd not mind changes so more people could appreciate the element.
Imo the problem with geo is the slow rate they took releasing characters specially during Liyue-Inazuma and then Inazuma-Fontaine era, it truly showed that devs were pushing things back as they had to figure out what to cook next for the element.
It sucks that they barely provided things involving the intricacies of it such as constructs or crystalise. At least Navia felt like a step into the right direction in that part and it seems like Xilonen will continue it after being the first 5* geo support since 1.1-1.2 (if we count Albedo's support capabilities, if not even worse because it's since Zhongli the patch prior). We also know they gave Chiori that construct passive for getting an extra doll but lbr, that thing felt mostly like bait for then selling her C1 when she herself does nothing for supporting a construct-based playstyle like the old microwave team.
If devs wanted they could revive constructs and fix the hitbox collissions (they already did in 3.1 for Albedo himself because some of the non-boss enemies back then were destroying his flower in 3.0 and after complaints it got patched), a better Petra set could have also been done that's less annoying to activate, more versatility within the cast like another shielder option (even if 4*), a healer, maybe another catalyst user that could work as an amazing rainbow driver for other elements and let off fielders shine, etc; but I guess releasing the 84th pyro onfield dps is way more important in their priority checklist lmao (not like we need other things covered up since 1.X era… right?)
xilonen is extremely good, cryo is the worst element. I also disagree about anemo being the best element, yeah vv is insanely good but newer meta teams are not that tied to vv, imo currently the list goes like this: 1. Hydro 2. Dendro 3. Anemo 4. Electro 5. Pyro 6. Geo 7. Cryo
I benched Itto for Kuki after the 3.7 abyss when i couldn't 36 star abd never looked back. Garbage character that i invested so much in. I just end up hating all my 5 star pulls in the end, given enough time.
i am c6 mono geo itto main……! i will be c4 r1 xilonen just to work with itto im so hyped my c6 itto could potentially do 170k per charge attack only for the first 6 hits that is crit. also cryo and physically also has it bad too. i know these are some sussy leaks…xilonen c2 allows her to buff to work in mono geo off field. her c4 gives normal and charge attack atk 65% of xilonen DEF i am so running triple DEF meaning her burst will not crit or heal. and against enemies like slimes or elemental shields or enemy touch the rain. i can crystalize them…that is the only way to proc the scroll set in a mono team. And with signature weapon r1 i get a total of 115.6% elemental bonus dmg and 45% geo res (talent level 13) not only that… i can get gorou to burst to boost xilonen C4 even further… yeah the c4 passive is kinda bad where it only last for 6 hits and only good for boss fights. i don't think people have noticed how big her C4 can be…since they probably run ER, DEF, Crit/Healing bonus or have gorou burst buffing it. once xilonen weapon get into a good banner i'll R5 the thing. also i predict my noelle each swing will hit 100k+ with xilonen, yunjin, and gorou. I know i could probably replace yunjin or gorou for furina but i am a mono element main. i play mono hydro with furina and neuvillette too :U no annemo character because that is mono meaning 1…i instead rely enemies to have elemental aura applied to them for my maulani to use scroll set the pain :l also i used to be cryo main but uhmmm i got disappointed and switched to mono hydro. isn't cool that you have one super charged one elemental team? yeah im not a fan of rainbow teams
so about xilonen. she doesn't shield unless crystalize. doesn't look like she has off field geo. she won't heal in mono geo unless u get her c6. yeah i guess that does remind me of zhongli's c6… she does give inturpt resist but with no shield. she scales of off DEF but she does no buff DEF like gorou. so i wouldn't exactly call her 5 star gorou but she is a buffer though…just in another way
As someone who really wants Itto and Gorou, MHY just needs to bite the bullet and actually give Geo reactions. Why did it get LITERALLY NOTHING WITH DENDRO. Come on, you guys couldn't think of ANYTHING when mixing plants and earth? Here you go: Overgrowth. The enemy gets covered in thorny vines, causing them to take damage over time and increasing the damage of all Geo and Dendro attacks upon the afflicted enemy. Boom, a reaction with the meta Dendro that helps Geo's damage problems by boosting its own damage while also letting Dendro DPS have fun.
Geo shields always absorbed all elements, just Geo was absorbed at a 250%(not 200%), while all other elements were just the base 100% (the health of the shield). After the buff, Geo shields absorbed everything at a 150%(not 100%).
Zhonglis shield gave a universal res shred of 20% not 25%. Also the shield always gained shield strength when attacked(up to 25%), this wasn't added with the buff it's been apart of his kit since release.
Geo's identity is an all-rounder element. Jack of all trades. It's not best in slot in any teams in terms of element reaction but it can compensate what you lack in your teams. Its an element without any classification.
imo geo needs more reasons to invest into, it’s unfortunate how itto’s mono geo team is essentially a worse version of xiao’s premium team as it currently stands. Faruzan exceeds gorou in terms of buffing and Xilonen will not work in mono geo due to her requiring two phec teammates. I think geo resonance should first increase damage based on the amount of geo units in the team, just due to the sheer amount of damage a team based only on pure strength will lose without reactions, and making geo shred all types of shields like how they absorb all elements would make them feel a lot better especially against elemental shields. I feel like Itto has the most potential to be a really good character, just due to his numbers alone, but without insanely high scaling supports or reactions the team falls off
why cant they make geo reactions like react with anemo? you can make it so it like a devastating tornado as some displace houses then it should be able to displace rocks which could cause like maybe def shred as your displacing enemies idk. also a dendro + geo makes so much sense and could be something like Overgrowth but taht could be like a dendro+geo+hydro reaction as plants can grow on rocks.
Next region will lean towards cryo reactions. Geo has a dps reaction with frozen enemies called "shatter". That's where geo (and physical) can get their next big buff
Wonder if cryo will ever get back into meta. They refuse to rerun the units for some reason. They seem to be at least trying with geo with navia and Xilonen encouraging other element teams. Geo really needs more reactions at this point though. Cryo and physical have been in a sad state for a long time now though so we will have to see what they do to bring it back
The only good Geo character is Noelle because she’s pretty 🗣️🔥
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Geo was always meant to be the defensive utility for buffing while Anemo was the offensive utility for buffing.
1.0 had Viridescesnt Venerer which you activate with swirl. very easy.
Archaic Petra was activated by picking up crystallize shards. way harder. Add on the domain it was in being paired with Retracing Bolide (basically a fodder set)… Yeah no wonder players never built into Geo units as buffers. The mechanic of picking up crystallize shards was too clunky.
Albedo was basically made to work with archaic petra— his burst gives an extra 125EM after use which was meant to strengthen the shield you gain with crystallize.
Geo has always been “the best offense is a good defense” and Genshin players have historically overlooked defensive utility. Geo isn’t bad, players just had the wrong idea of how the characters were meant to be used.
is that the fear and hunger termina art style I see?
Lowkey disagree with you i would say currenly cryo is the worst the newer geo charcters are pretty good and xilonen is a bennet plus kazuha and crystalize the reaction is useful for kachina navia and xilonene navia for her dps the other two for the artifact set
I wonder how the perception of geo and anemo would be if they swapped sets. Like, instead of VV for anemo, its for geo, and vice versa for Archaic Petra.
As a geo main i don't find this element bad or boring or weak, but that's bc i like the element. I like how simple it is, and yeah, despite it being "yellow phys" characters are fun to play. At least for me. BUT as a geo main, i as well see why many people are unsatisfied with the element. From the "normal" experience stand point that is. If we talk objectively here, then yeah, geo is underperforming in comparison to other elements. And the problem here is the lack of reactions with some of them. So the geo reaction type should be reworked. For example, a simple change of a crystallize scaling from EM to Def or HP would solve half of the problem, it'd be also great if getting a shiled via crystallized reaction characters would get some sort of buff regardless of the set. And why there's no reaction with dendro is still beyond me. Smth like vines or stun for enemies would be cool idea for geo-dendro. But alas. As i've said i'm satisfied with geo as it is, but i'd not mind changes so more people could appreciate the element.
Least f2p friendly element by far too.
I LOVE ITTO!!!!
Yunjin forgotten, sadge.
Imo the problem with geo is the slow rate they took releasing characters specially during Liyue-Inazuma and then Inazuma-Fontaine era, it truly showed that devs were pushing things back as they had to figure out what to cook next for the element.
It sucks that they barely provided things involving the intricacies of it such as constructs or crystalise. At least Navia felt like a step into the right direction in that part and it seems like Xilonen will continue it after being the first 5* geo support since 1.1-1.2 (if we count Albedo's support capabilities, if not even worse because it's since Zhongli the patch prior). We also know they gave Chiori that construct passive for getting an extra doll but lbr, that thing felt mostly like bait for then selling her C1 when she herself does nothing for supporting a construct-based playstyle like the old microwave team.
If devs wanted they could revive constructs and fix the hitbox collissions (they already did in 3.1 for Albedo himself because some of the non-boss enemies back then were destroying his flower in 3.0 and after complaints it got patched), a better Petra set could have also been done that's less annoying to activate, more versatility within the cast like another shielder option (even if 4*), a healer, maybe another catalyst user that could work as an amazing rainbow driver for other elements and let off fielders shine, etc; but I guess releasing the 84th pyro onfield dps is way more important in their priority checklist lmao (not like we need other things covered up since 1.X era… right?)
xilonen doesnt even work in mono geo as far as i can tell
xiao is #1 dps and taller than neuvillette
The worst is Cryo no cap. In fact I became Geo main accidentally since Navia + Chiori haver.
Well the devs made Xilonen as they initially intended with their vision of archaic Petra : near universal buff.
xilonen is extremely good, cryo is the worst element. I also disagree about anemo being the best element, yeah vv is insanely good but newer meta teams are not that tied to vv, imo currently the list goes like this:
1. Hydro
2. Dendro
3. Anemo
4. Electro
5. Pyro
6. Geo
7. Cryo
Omg im blessed today to see ya return
I benched Itto for Kuki after the 3.7 abyss when i couldn't 36 star abd never looked back. Garbage character that i invested so much in. I just end up hating all my 5 star pulls in the end, given enough time.
As a cryo main, I’d say cryo is in a worse state
i am c6 mono geo itto main……! i will be c4 r1 xilonen just to work with itto im so hyped my c6 itto could potentially do 170k per charge attack only for the first 6 hits that is crit.
also cryo and physically also has it bad too.
i know these are some sussy leaks…xilonen c2 allows her to buff to work in mono geo off field. her c4 gives normal and charge attack atk 65% of xilonen DEF i am so running triple DEF meaning her burst will not crit or heal.
and against enemies like slimes or elemental shields or enemy touch the rain. i can crystalize them…that is the only way to proc the scroll set in a mono team. And with signature weapon r1 i get a total of 115.6% elemental bonus dmg and 45% geo res (talent level 13)
not only that… i can get gorou to burst to boost xilonen C4 even further…
yeah the c4 passive is kinda bad where it only last for 6 hits and only good for boss fights.
i don't think people have noticed how big her C4 can be…since they probably run ER, DEF, Crit/Healing bonus or have gorou burst buffing it.
once xilonen weapon get into a good banner i'll R5 the thing.
also i predict my noelle each swing will hit 100k+ with xilonen, yunjin, and gorou. I know i could probably replace yunjin or gorou for furina but i am a mono element main.
i play mono hydro with furina and neuvillette too :U no annemo character because that is mono meaning 1…i instead rely enemies to have elemental aura applied to them for my maulani to use scroll set the pain :l
also i used to be cryo main but uhmmm i got disappointed and switched to mono hydro.
isn't cool that you have one super charged one elemental team? yeah im not a fan of rainbow teams
so about xilonen. she doesn't shield unless crystalize. doesn't look like she has off field geo.
she won't heal in mono geo unless u get her c6. yeah i guess that does remind me of zhongli's c6…
she does give inturpt resist but with no shield. she scales of off DEF but she does no buff DEF like gorou. so i wouldn't exactly call her 5 star gorou but she is a buffer though…just in another way
xilonen will revive geo soon
Me with my mono geo noelle & furina 🗿🗿🗿
As someone who really wants Itto and Gorou, MHY just needs to bite the bullet and actually give Geo reactions. Why did it get LITERALLY NOTHING WITH DENDRO. Come on, you guys couldn't think of ANYTHING when mixing plants and earth? Here you go: Overgrowth. The enemy gets covered in thorny vines, causing them to take damage over time and increasing the damage of all Geo and Dendro attacks upon the afflicted enemy. Boom, a reaction with the meta Dendro that helps Geo's damage problems by boosting its own damage while also letting Dendro DPS have fun.
Geo shields always absorbed all elements, just Geo was absorbed at a 250%(not 200%), while all other elements were just the base 100% (the health of the shield). After the buff, Geo shields absorbed everything at a 150%(not 100%).
Zhonglis shield gave a universal res shred of 20% not 25%. Also the shield always gained shield strength when attacked(up to 25%), this wasn't added with the buff it's been apart of his kit since release.
Geo's identity is an all-rounder element. Jack of all trades. It's not best in slot in any teams in terms of element reaction but it can compensate what you lack in your teams. Its an element without any classification.
Bullshit. You just suck at geo. I will wipe the floor with 150k dps geo attacks on Noelle.
Albedo doing 8k to 24k 💀 wtf kinda build were you using my albedo been doing 50k for years
imo geo needs more reasons to invest into, it’s unfortunate how itto’s mono geo team is essentially a worse version of xiao’s premium team as it currently stands. Faruzan exceeds gorou in terms of buffing and Xilonen will not work in mono geo due to her requiring two phec teammates. I think geo resonance should first increase damage based on the amount of geo units in the team, just due to the sheer amount of damage a team based only on pure strength will lose without reactions, and making geo shred all types of shields like how they absorb all elements would make them feel a lot better especially against elemental shields. I feel like Itto has the most potential to be a really good character, just due to his numbers alone, but without insanely high scaling supports or reactions the team falls off
why cant they make geo reactions like react with anemo? you can make it so it like a devastating tornado as some displace houses then it should be able to displace rocks which could cause like maybe def shred as your displacing enemies idk. also a dendro + geo makes so much sense and could be something like Overgrowth but taht could be like a dendro+geo+hydro reaction as plants can grow on rocks.
Next region will lean towards cryo reactions. Geo has a dps reaction with frozen enemies called "shatter". That's where geo (and physical) can get their next big buff
As a navia Maine I dislike this video
cryo is the worst element as of the current version. not geo.
Wonder if cryo will ever get back into meta. They refuse to rerun the units for some reason. They seem to be at least trying with geo with navia and Xilonen encouraging other element teams. Geo really needs more reactions at this point though. Cryo and physical have been in a sad state for a long time now though so we will have to see what they do to bring it back