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His hold E only provided the shield and not the pillar.
This is the most noticeable change because in his demo you can see the difference.
Zhongli NEEDED the interruption resistance buff while holding E. Getting stunlocked while being essentially animation locked was pathetic, hence why i don't understand why Yae doesn't have i-frames or some interrumption res on her E animation.
I remember that time I thought I was duped. He hits like a wet noodle.
The change i liked the most, was the buff to geo resonance, because thats benefits all geo characters, not only one. Im still waiting for a buff to hydro 🙁 extra dmg at full hp would be perfect to be combined with the healing buff. At least we have the new clam set now
– alot of the anger was not just due to leaks it was his trailer that literally falsely advertised him
– he was objectively bad when he was released and no, current zhongli is not better than the leak version
– geo shields needed that change/buff desperately because geo dmg sources are rare and geo is supposed to be the defensive element but had the worst shield
– the passive that improves his dmg based on his max hp is pretty useless because unless you have a god zhongli using his burst is still a dps loss
honestly cannot fathom how people considered his initial state good espescially considering how badly it would've aged: clunky af E, shitty shield and 0 dmg…
archons need to be if not completely futureproof at least highly resistent to powercreep and zhongli would've been powercrept on launch cause Diona while having a weaker shield would've provided way more than him! now at least he is smoother to play and provides at bit of a dps boost.
I still think his petrification is a goddamn meme with how short it is before c4.
All Zhongli needed was a few tweaks. The pillar with hold E and interruption resistance when doing the hold E. The fact the Geo as an element got a buff was also very nice.
The universal RES shred and extra DMG for his skill and especially his normal attacks were the things that was unnecessary.
I'm also gonna guess this is the reason why abyss cycles and floors always favors whatever banner character is up at the time because the cryo abyss floor was not helping Zhongli. If they had a floor full of mobs the dealt a lot of DMG, were hard to CC and kept interrupting the DPS then Zhongli would've looked much nicer.
Unrelated, imagine in the future if we can turn c6 4* into 5* characters after getting one more copy
This makes you realize that the "shield nerf" we had in recent patches was actually understandable
Before the change it was 250 to geo damage which was changed. At the time I honestly believe diona was better unless it was geo. There was many videos showing her shield strength. Hell it’s still amazing to this day
zhongli buff came in 1.3 along with xiao banner
I personally never enraged back then of how weak he was, I accepted it or didn’t care at all, so when the buff happened it felt like I was getting a free gift. The Zhongli drama was definitely the most controversial.
This game is trash tbh haha. You have a lot of people who just want free shit and are heavily addicted to gacha so they preach that everyone should be grateful and happy with the game in its broken state. On the other hand you have people who are paying a ton of money and aren't getting anywhere close to the value of what they are spending. Where I'm from this is called a scam as well as phishing to turn people into spenders. This game is character driven and there is nothing to do. I don't even have anything left to grind anymore. This game offers little to no value for what it is based off of.
As far as I heard, no, he wasn't good. His E was interruptable which defeats the purpose of a shielding, especially with such a long casting time.
Valk’s Zhongli is built full HP?! Haha! U make me laugh! Valk, ur Zhongli is lv90 and ONLY has 43k HP. That’s not full HP. That’s hybrid, but not full HP. My Zhongli is lv81 and has 52k HP. When my Zhongli reaches lv90 he will have abit over 55k HP, that’s with his current artifacts, which r not perfect. And even then my Zhongli still manages to have some crit stats. My Zhongli has 34.9% crit rate and 103.6% crit dmg.
But even still I want to get artifacts that have more HP on them bcuz his shields r still too soft and squishy.
you want characters because they’re powerful
I want characters because ✨booba✨
We are not the same.
…/j
That was a crazy times.. damn
I personally find the anniversary rewards and Raiden/Beidou drama was worst than Zhongli's, I mean the review bombing thing was wild
People weren’t upset about Zhongli because of leaks. The leak scene in Genshin wasn’t even that prominent back then. People were upset that Mihoyo advertised him in his trailer as doing “massive damage” and showed him doing things that weren’t in his release.
Too bad there was no rise up for Kokomi's lack of crit rate
The spiral abyss has essentially ruined genshin to me, people specifically think characters have to work in abyss or they don't matter to the point it limits character diversity. I also recall Zhongli after being buffed they found out his kit specifically his shield and pillar were not working as intended after a diagnostic test which mihoyo still doesn't tend to do before release. Diagnostic tests to make sure programming is functioning is important and so Zhongli got three buffs. I hate this mentality of damage is all that matters. Albedo got residual hate because of Zhongli having the issues and i was one of the few whon got Albedo first run. The anniversary outrage was also close to Zhongli outrage. Mihoyo caves to easily and this community has a fair share of brats sorry that is observable truth. They would raise so much fuss over making geo the defense element offensive which ruined balance in the game indefinitely which also likely delayed dendro but dendro delay may have been the only good part of it as the extra reactions seem useful won't know until it goes live. I never was nor am i a fan of leaks. Lastly those whom violate nondisclosure agreements are sorry to say bad people.
this game had good moments? when? ah yeah i remember
xiao release
yanfei release
kokomi release
this video was tokyo drift with zhongli kekw
So basically if its not liyue you can kiss your opinion goodbye 😘
🌸😹It was certainly quite the experience and Zhongli would be altered from a sleeping Archon to that of a god awakened.😹
They should have done the same with yae ngl
I heard of this drama before. I’m a Zhongli main and I wasn’t part of the Genshin fam at that point of time but even though people could really resort to drastic (and unnecessary) measures, I still agree that the Geo Archon should not fall short of people’s expectations in the first place. Or at least he shouldn’t fall short of what’s expected of an Archon and their supposed power. I mean, he’s a representation of where Genshin originates from anyway so I really wonder why they would put out an underwhelming kit for him in the first place. The leakers only made it worse. So that said, there are faults in both parties and that things shouldn’t need to be that drastic. Hoyoverse buffing Zhongli up and making him live up to the expectations of an Archon was the rightful move to make on their part. And as a Zhongli main, I LOVE HIM!
they went overboard with the buffs, I wouldn't blame them after that assassination attempt 💀
One day I’ll have C2 Zhongli so I can make everyone in co-op happy 😊
His burst literally no dmg, E have to be separate, pillar and shield, cool AA animation but doesn't do dmg(some say, some of his AA supposedly do some Geo dmg) , his trailer doesn't portrait him as a support(maybe because he's Geo, TF is Geo reaction). Yes, Zhongli as an Archon is a turning point for future Archon to be supposedly godlike skill and dmg. Venti is a good example balance character, but after Zhongli.. everything changes.
I still think Zhongli was really meant to be a main carry role. Just look at his signature weapon. There were even speculations that his sfx spears on aa and ca was meant to be geo damage, since his ascension is geo bonus.
He would've been a very unique character. And his buff was just too dumb level op.
I believe pre buff is trash though.
I pulled for zhongli at that time, I wasn't into the community and I didn't even know people didn't like him until the end of the patch. I'm glad he got buffed, some of them were NEEDED like the interruption. But ye they did a little too much
Yeah I wasn’t playing Genshin until a few months after the original Zhongli incident, and thus I would get him on his first rerun, only to find out about what happened to him after the fact. Nevertheless that sure was an insane moment of time when I did hear about it, and looking at how things went down from how they released him to when I first got him, I’m glad I got the new and improved version. I mean sure, I would’ve gotten him anyways because after seeing him in the story and as soon as I heard that voice, I insta simped lol But it would’ve definitely felt underwhelming granted that his kit wasn’t up to par as it is now.
But c6 zhongli the power Spike. But cost thousand dollars Also.
Even if you can take or leave the damage buffs, Zhongli 2.0 really improved his utility and gameplay for shield-botting and support roles.
Before the buffs, he was really niche. You could build him for damage or shields, but not both. And… that was it. That's all he did. He didn't heal, he didn't buff, he didn't set up reactions, and his energy generation was slow but steady. As a pure shield-bot, he was a solid upgrade over Diona or Noelle while sacrificing all the extra utility those two four-star units could provide. Then he got buffs that really made him an outstanding support swiss army knife.
1. Interruption resistance while casting his shield. Getting knocked out of that long animation was so frustrating.
2. You no longer have to choose between pillar and shield.
3. Geo shields are now more universal. They used to be really specific against Geo damage, but now it's good against all damage types.
4. That universal resistance shred makes him valuable in any team.
5. Indirect buff via geo resonance.
6. Later on, another indirect buff from Tenacity of the Millelith artifact set gave him even more support utility.
Yae also caused a similar outroar in both global and CN community but the drama only lasted the 3 weeks her banner was up. I still write to mihoyo in every survey to do something about her kit although I know its a lost battle already. It just hurts me what they did to such a gorgeus character
Title reminds me the event that changed something for me is there was a twitch streamer slanders my one of the fav character than takes u turn says didn't did It by twisting words and some other streamer also supported that i was like fuck that and uninstalled twitch
You know a funny thing that Mihoyo can do to punish the leak-reliant people, change all the level up and talent materials for Yelan right before her official 2.7 unveil, coz I know for a fact that several people have already pre-farmed her mats based on leaks.
zhongli was basically good as it was, maybe just for interruption resistance
But Miko desperately need some love from daddy MiHoYo, she feels so bad to use, she needs skill invincibility frame or AT LEAST interruption resistance
zhongli was good on release? u drunk valk?
Unfortunately, this drama was the first of many that Genshin has so far in it’s lifespan. I still dk how hoyoverse can keep shooting itself in the foot. It is at the level of EA.
Pre-buff Zhongli was freaking terrible.
1. His shield was so garbage that even Diona was objectively better than him.
2. He could get interrupted casting his shield and the long cast time made it worse.
3. He had terrible ER issues because his hold skill didn't create a pillar.
4. Rotations with him felt clunky asf because of the need to put his pillar before/after casting his shield.
5. His damage for clearing waves was worse than trash.
6. He didn't have the 20% universal res shred on his shield.
7. His A4 was much worse at the time, and the buff helped fix his split scaling issues.
8. He does a poor job at being a shield bot.
Pre-buff Zhongli wasn't good and if he was never buffed then he'd literally be the worst 5 star. During his time, Geo Resonance sucked so much too.
Oh boy I remember the heat back then;.. boy it was so long back in the early days.
In my opinion many People forget Zhong Li was actually the first Character who was designed with his personal Weapon in mind The Vortex Vanquisher.
At the Point in the Game not many People were interested in 5 Star Weapons, so they didn't bother getting that weapon for him.
And just so that it is known Zhong Li back than on Lvl 90 with his Weapon R5 on Lvl 90, The Atk Buff full charged and a Lvl 20 Feather had 2.4k ATK.
Most of that ATK came from the Weapon and without it he had just not enough with only a Base ATK from almost 900.
So no wonder People were upset, because he was meant to be played together with his Weapon to deal Damage and if you didn't had that weapon, just play him as an Support, He his still a Shield Unit to this day.
I was one of the few people that didn't think Zhongli was that bad pre-buff. Although he definitely had some flaws that needed fixing. The biggest thing for me was holding E only gave you the shield and not both the shield and the pillar. I'm super glad they changed that, lol.
I think you misremembered. Both the 150% absorb all element DMG AND the 20% res shred was added with the 1.3 buffs. Before the 1.3 buffs, his buff used to only have a 250% damage effectiveness against Geo (which was – and in a way still is – an underutilized damage type by enemies), which is why his shield is considered worse than Dionas which absorbed the much more common cryo. The cryo abyss was a part of it, but it wasn't the only part.
Factoring his A4, the buffs literally doubled his shield absorption (against everything but Geo). His shield was quite weak back then and broke against a lot of things, while having a 2s cast time (Diona is 0.5s) that was fully interruptable.