The Cataclysm in Other Nations [Genshin Impact Lore, Analysis, and Speculation]



Cataclysm incoming! Let’s talk about Genshin Impact’s 500 year old Cataclysm, but instead of focusing on Khaenriah, how about the other nations in Teyvat?

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33 thoughts on “The Cataclysm in Other Nations [Genshin Impact Lore, Analysis, and Speculation]”

  1. Why all the archons hate celestia if gold is the one created abyssal monster . Why is gold corrupted ? Then how is she remaining calm even after her creation durin is killed , how did she left albedo in the world observed by archons there are more questions is the dark energy of abyss and celestial rulers same

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  2. There's something that caught my attention about the Abyssal Corruption.

    Chiyo the Oni, Takamine the Mistsplitter and Durin — and by extension Dvalin too — characters that were corrupted by Abyssal energy

    According to Durin's POV, he felt that he was dreaming a long dream, where he was singing along Barbatos. But didn't realize that he was already attacking Mondstadt.

    Chiyo, one of Ei's friends, was swallowed by "beast of sin" — possible of another of Gold's creations. She managed to killed it from within, but was corrored by dark energy, and quickly turned to attack Ei.

    Takamine, the original owner of the Thundering Pulse and Mistsplitter sword. Was overwhelmed by the Abyss, however, he managed to keep his mind stable enough to remember his promise to Hibiki.

    It seems that being corrupted by the Abyss doesn't exactly turn you evil. But twist your senses and view of reality — meaning that you saw your allies as enemies, and not longer able to tell time, reality from fantasy.

    And there's Dvalin, he wasn't exactly evil. Of all the contrary, he was the same as before, but his negative emotions were manipulated by the Abyss Order. He was attacking Mondstadt out of anger because the people forgot Barbatos.

    Meaning that as long you holding onto a strong emotion, you can still keep your humanity or sanity long enough.

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  3. I think that Venti propably cannot tell us all that much, we know Venti and Dvalin fought Durin together and both got poisoned and had to rest after. If Durins attack on Mondstadt was at a similar time as the attack of the abyssal creatures on Inazuma the other gods were likely already at Khaenri'ah or on the way there. The timeline could be slightly different to enable him to be present too but not unlikely that he was not there.

    I wonder tho what Venti did directly after the cataclysm. For how long did he rest at Windrise? When did his later travels happen and did he return to sleep after those before reawakening to help the corrupted Dvalin? There is a story about him swapping out the Staff of the Cryo Archon for a Hilichurl Club/Scepter and one where it is heavily implied that he safed Xiao in Liyue, both had to happen after the cataclysm. I would love to get more details on all that in future quests.

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  4. I always just thought that the Yaksha that lived was the Pyro one since in the trailer it showed Geo and Hydro fighting each other and probably dying and Electro turning evil but the Pyro one was only shown to go insane so that to me could make sense for it to leave and vanish without a trace until doing it’s thing in the chasm

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  5. I really want to see an archon who’s PYSHICALLY active and not incognito, in a puppet, or retired. Like I was to see an actual archon and what she does on her say to day life. Unfortunately we will never see another archon who won the archon war and was in the events of the cataclysm just Venti and Zhongli and we don’t learn too much from them from ptsd of some sort and zhongli doesn’t want to talk about it because of a contract

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  6. The Abyss invaded the skies of Mondstadt, the mines of Liyue, the seas of Inazuma

    skies = anemo(?)
    mines = geo(?)
    seas, where thunderstorms form (electro?)

    maybe the Abyss invaded Sumeru from its woodlands and rainforests

    Edit: on a side note, the Viridescent Venerer's lore seems to have taken place in a forest somewhere in Teyvat that is somehow connected to the God of Woods, where the Venerer met the blind dying boy and decided to fight the monsters appearing from the Cataclysm on the boy's behalf. Maybe this same forest is located in Sumeru(?)

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  7. The Abyss seems to have openings all over Teyvat. Consider how Childe fell into and got stuck in the Abyss (heh) in the first place. He fell through a Crack not long after leaving his home.

    And while the Spiral Abyss might have no connection, it could be a possibility that it is connected to the Abyss.

    The Chasm could also be connected to the Abyss, considering how important it was and how deep it went. If the recent Archon Quest is anything to go by.

    Tsurumi Island is home, currently, to the Golden Wolf Lord, an Abyssal beast. Perhaps Tsurumi, due to its heavy fog and vagueness, was a base for Abyssal forces.

    I also wonder what the Abyss Order's beef with Mondstadt. They seem to solely target the city and the region. They are considered a bigger threat than the Fatui when we first arrive. Does the Abyss Order hate Mondstadt because the city itself reminds them of Khaenri'ah? It is the City of Freedom and Wind, where most people thought their Archon, Barbatos, abandoned them. But the difference between Khaenri'ah and Mondstadt, is that Mondstadt still worships their Archon, Khaenri'ah abandoned the gods.

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  8. We have more about Sumeru!
    I am lazy to explain, but, you can go read the Viridecent set and bow

    Also, a theory would be that after the cataclysm, The Abyss opened some hole, for people to fall inside
    Looking at you Childe

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  9. Abbys mages and abyss heralds are citizen of khaanreah!!!! But is it possible that they are originally from abyss n not from khaanreah cause heralds were not affected by the pool in chasm when purifying!!!! But dark knights, dain were…which is suspicious

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  10. I wonder if Aether/Lumine (the abyss sibling) was in the meteorite that landed in Liyue? Meteorites landing isn't usually such a peaceful time. And the traveler did journey around for a bit before the story, maybe we just didn't find the other giant crater

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  11. I wish we get to see a flashback during the Cataclysm where the 7 nations are trying to fend off the monsters of Khaenriah.

    I mean dont you want to see a heartbreaking but epic cutscene of the Minellith army fighting a cinematic last stand against these unknown creatures sent by a mysterious metorite? 🥲

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  12. i think that, other than Gold's deployment of Rifthounds & other creations, many inciting events of The Cataclysm that were attributed to Khaenriah were, in fact, inflicted by CELESTIA.

    The "iron meteor" and the strict NDA Zhongli must comply with make me suspect that Khaenriah was not the lone target of Celestia's wrath: ALL of Teyvat was at risk, and Celestia would not cease their Divine Punishment of Teyvat's peoples until all Archons served as witness to Khaenriah's destruction.

    Assuming Celestia as being a SECOND invading force, rather than Khaenriah acting alone but in concert with Coincidental Disasters, changes the perception of events: if Celestia was at war with EVERYONE, that means that the "natural" disasters were deliberately orchestrated and that the summoning of Archons AWAY from their local calamities, to Khaenriah, WASN'T VOLUNTARY.

    If the archons' presence at Khaenriah was something ORDERED as a test of the loyalties held by each Archon (encouraged by Celestia, say, throwing a meteor/second skyfrost nail into The Chasm?), each Archon called to Witness as Celestia made an Example of Khaenriah…

    it would make sense why Makoto hid her leaving Inazuma from her sister (why Makoto left Inazuma AT ALL), why Zhongli is under NDA on all matters 500 years ago, why the Tsaritsa was inspired to hatred, why Dain neither hates nor feels friendly to the Archons: the archons were summoned by Celestia, not to help in Khaenria's defeat but to bear WITNESS to it. Archons like Makoto dying because they tried to PROTECT the people of Khaenriah makes more sense than Archons dying by the design of Khaenriah's ruling class (whilst their own kingdom fell to ruin).

    Thus far, none of the archons we have met originate from Celestia and none of them want much to do with the place: Ei is the least hostile to Celestia and Ei is the most unaware of what exactly Celestia was doing during the events of 500 years ago.

    I'm not declaring Khaenriah innocent, Gold's deployment of Rifthounds to Inazuma & (perhaps?) of Durin to Mondstadt, frame its ruling class as inciting war in their own right: I do, however, think that the Archons we have met would not have left their nations during calamity to fight elsewhere, that the Timing of inciting events & ceasefires is Suspicious, and that Celestia is Suspiciously absent from all recollections of 500 years ago (outside of its destroying of Khaenriah & cursing its people).

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  13. Chiyo's fate is described in-game in the "Mask of the Kijin;" Ei cut off her sword-arm and one of her horns when she drew her sword on the Narukami Ogosho, and then she fled into the wilderness where she's speculated to have been killed by any number of different warriors—up to and including the Maguu Kenki, which would imply that she wandered in the wilderness for quite some time with her death never being confirmed.

    Also, the iron meteorite that struck the Chasm could have been a remnant of one of the two destroyed moons. It would basically be a hunk of a dead god, and we know what kind of nastiness that can create…

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