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β Nilou is amazing, highly recommended
Shenhe Nahida Zhongli childe are quite good
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PSA the tiering system (percentages) is completely arbitrary and CAN be misleading. If you want a detailed breakdown of why certain characters are good, check out my previous vid: (Day 1 Tier List, 4 Star Weapon Clear, Abyss Guide for 4.7) https://youtu.be/u6O03rF4y8Q
repping the 0.5% Noelle. The weapon banner loss I had to Redhorn a while ago has become one of the biggest wins, it's been super fun swiffering every abyss with the OG maid and Furina.
I disagree on Childe international not having comfort. I tend to go back to that team often because itβs very comfortable for me since Iβve been playing that team for years now.
for me, comfort over more damage most of the time. I'd much rather have too much er +healing than clear 10-15 seconds faster at the risk of dying+restarting or having to start the chamber without bursts
only after I've 36* do i somethings go back in with my favorite teams and try to optimize grouping/rotations for faster clear times
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I'm a little surprised sucrose is so low, despite being a 4 star she's been a really good kazuya sub if you're already using him on the other side, sometimes a better option for reaction heavy teams and is still a good grouper
Cyno in B despite the first side looking really good for quickbloom is surprising.
Also Xiao feels great in the first side too, even with those waves in first chamber, as long as you start with full energy in the third chamber to brute force ASIMON.
Comfort is number 1
I think it's comfort for many only because it's not always about how strong the team is, but how much you do or don't know the enemy mechanics
…after a long day/week of work/school, there's just not enough time to look into every enemy and how they work – so you know enough (aoe/ST/moving/static…etc) and then bring Zhongli cuz you don't have the patience to reset over and over lol
Kazuha is never not S+. He really is the goat.
comfort
Getting c6 four star of your choice is impossible but getting a 5 star is also hard ( I lost my 50/ 50 every single time) I am relatively new player (I stop playing when I get bored) so I only have four 5star (ayaka mona kazuha jean )
Imo i dont think genshin is releasing any character like neuvilette ever again just the sheer damage and the comfiness of playing him. Even if they did a better dps it would be more technical and would require certain teams but neuvilette is just too op. Constantly getting 36* after getting him and was stuck at 33 before for such a long time.
i am using furina charlotte yelan kaeya , freezing teams is good in this abyss , you can switch yelan with kazuha but yelan single target dps is to good
It always amazes me to see how much Lyney gets thrown in the back
"Im surprised Chevreuse is that low"
Need to have her first to play her xD
She had only one banner on which I did not have the incentive to roll for her because the featured characters were Yoijmija and Raiden.
And I already got both.
Bet there are many many more like me, who would like to have her but need to consider quite alot on what banner to spend their primos on.
This new Abyss is clearly for whales, which is totally unfair. You want defeat all that waves of tanky enemies?Β
ok, pay for at least a signature weapon and a couple of constellations.
9:54 I think thats bc the people that would submit their data for something like this are the people that have been playing for years and have A LOT of great characters built. They can still make it with more comfort. These sort of people wouldn't need your guides. The people that can't affort the comfort are the ones that need a guide.
I think mentioning possible comfort picks is fine I jist think the main recommendations should just be optimal teams for clearing
The comfort thing is always the way it goes. As someone who played tanks in MMOs and such, the norm for building a tank is as follows: First, make sure you can survive the damage spikes without being at risk to RNG, because bad luck will happen and you dying wastes everyone's time. Once that is done, you go for comfort… reducing the healing needed and so on. In Genshin terms, first you build your team so it can get the number of stars you want, and then you improve the team so that it is less hassle to do so.
At the end of the day, rewards are binary. You either beat the boss or get three stars, or you don't. You don't get extra rewards for doing it faster.
That said, I think a lot of players, especially the type who aren't going to put their runs on a (Chinese) website, will be prone to doing it with the teams/characters they like, over meta considerations.
I used Arlecchino, Chiori, Mona, Zhong for first side. A comfort team. Side 2 for power with Neuvi, Furina, Koko and Jean.
I tried a second run with-
Chlorinde, Miko, Baizhu, Jean. Side 1.
Ayaka, Eula, Furina, Koko. Side 2.
I only have two teams sorta built, so if I don't get lucky on the required elements its joever.
The slime room is impossible without really good grouping on both sides
A lot of people sleep on Lisa because her energy requirements can get really uncomfortable for people to even bother. Which is sad because she's unironically very strong. Strong enough to carry me through any abyss that doesn't hardcounter electro
I think that a lot of furina players use jean, and the reason she is so low is because its a standart character that probably a lot of people have who dont have furina
I have almost every character in S and every character in S+ and I still canβt 36 star wtf?
I tried to use Clorinde without interruption resistance side 1 this abyss and found it almost unplayable, wasn't willing to reset 20 times to avoid being staggered out of half my DPS in the first two chambers. Maybe in other abysses it would do better. From what I've seen a lot of other people have had similar experiences. Doing 10-20% more DPS isn't really worth it if it makes the clear take 10-20 times longer because I have to keep resetting, unless that's literally needed to 3 star which it almost never is
As a mobile player, dodgeing enemies attack is very difficult. Specially aggressive enemies. And now a days all 5* have intruption resistance in their 1st or 2nd consolation . So it's necessary to use a shilder or healer to survive the abyss.
That's why I always use Arlicchino and nuvi with my Layla . But if I run both of them on abyss I am lacking of shilders . So I need zongli as soon as possible.π’
One angle that I've been thinking is that given the average account's # of character has gone up many fold, even w/o powercreep the usage rate of average char will have to dilute downwards, mathematically speaking. So a 10% usage rate in 4.x may be worth 15% or so in 3.x, so take that into account if you are doing time series of usage rate across diff versions.
lmao you could make an entire team out of s+ class
Im fine with you using 5 stars for your abyss clears, i think what people mean when they call you out for it is, that there are people who want to copy your clears and the probability, that they own a 5 star you are using is lower, than if you would use only 4 stars (meaning they cant 1:1 copy your teams)
(It might be easier to get a c0 5 star ober a c6 4 star, but that doesnt mean that they own that particular 5 star you are using, everyone has different 5 stars)
Itto being so low but still one of my go-to's for the first half just proves that this thing is a popularity context first and foremost
I never built most of my 5 stars because i never interacted with the community or knew anything
YAE MIKO MAINS. ITβS TIME
Comfort is better than dodging because Genshin is already time consuming enough. Who has the time to master jump dash cancels and strict timings every 2 weeks outside of streamers
Bruh HoYo would be a huge troll if they make enemies hydro immune/hydro resistant on the next batches of floor 12 on both chambers ππππ
I don't see any reason for me personally use someone like zhongli because I can simply dodge most of the attacks and instead use someone that will give me most damage possible. I mean enemies can't kill me if I killed them faster right :p
I am surprised Tighnari is so low, he slayed this abbyss for me I love when abbyss is quicken friendly, it's a lot of fun for me (same surprise for Nilou, swapped her for one floor, she's also incredible this round, but yeah maybe people just prefer other hydros).
5 stars in general will be higher than 4 stars, especially v1/v2 and lantern rite 4 stars. For example more people have fischl than yae so fischl is lower down even if the actual usage rate is similar
as far as what you said at the end, id say comfort first and then if I have a favorable matchup or like the enemies i'm fighting I will play a glass cannon team and try to speedrun the chamber. my endgame is putting the artifacts i've spent millions of resin (no idea how much but it feels like my whole life) to the test and seeing how fast i can clear vs other players using similar teams.
for example everyone says wanderer needs a shield which can be true a lot of the time. but if they are ventiable he doesnt need one and if you can just dodge well then furina or yelan become BIS in the 4th flex slot. I dont have furina yet, but Yelan Faruzan Bennett Wanderer is a very VERY strong under utilized team.
I personally don't play a team without either a shielder or a healer. So I'd never consider playing a team that doesn't have one, comfort for me all the way
No no I think comfort is meant for casual players, the damage one are the real ones, always looking for smthing new and strong
so many comfy teams clear this abyss, that i'm curious, what are those guys smoking, who call this abyss "the hardest"