Raiden is a support with a very interesting and powerful kit that solves problems we don’t really have in Genshin Impact. She has one VERY strong team but otherwise is a slightly below average unit.
She doesn’t is at best a sidegrade to C0 Fish or C0 Succrose in any team she is run in with 1 exception, her overvape team. In that team she is a solid 15%+ DPS increase, which is very significant and one of the strongest teams in Genshin Impact.
Detailed Tweet on the subject: https://twitter.com/JinxMathalos/status/1434010098871984128?s=20
Sorry for the delay on our Raiden thoughts Post Launch. We accidentally deleted the VoD of the last podcast we did on Raiden on accident lol.
We also talk about Honey.
We don’t dive deep into all the drama we had with Honey after working with her for a year in the MHW community but felt we should give some context on why the recent Honey Impact drama is no surprise and really just Honey showing her true self to the public.
Detailed summary of the Honey Impact drama:
https://twitter.com/cresfeather/status/1437073261146218497?s=20
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Finished Timestamps:
0:00 – Artifact Flexing & Self-Conscious
2:51 – RIP 1st Raiden Podcast
4:40 – Raiden Issues & "Wait 30 Min"
10:50 – Raiden Power & Rotation Time
20:58 – Not Much Energy Regen
24:00 – Raiden Sidegrade & National
27:43 – Future of Raiden
33:03 – Raiden vs Sucrose National
37:33 – Venti God of Suck
39:15 – Xingqiu Without Sac Sword
44:33 – Eula + Raiden ehh & C2 Raiden
49:41 – Why Get 5* In The First Place?
52:49 – Jinx&Tuner Community/Honesty/Regret
1:04:14 – Bennett Good Unit
1:07:11 – """""Brief""""" Overview of Honey Drama
1:25:17 – Tiny Tina's Wonderland
1:27:20 – Jinx + Data Analytics
1:37:55 – Restaurants & Work Environments
1:43:07 – Genshin Content Drought
1:47:08 – Importance of Strong Community
1:52:05 – When/How Jinx&Tuner Originated
1:56:00 – Podcast Wrap-up
1:58:20 – Thanks Guys (I'm TheRealRhyme. Can't catch streams super often).
I don't know if it's your kind of game, but Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous is the only game that has caused me to break out the spreadsheets and spend as much time doing math and planning how I wanna build my party more than I play the game.
I think you guys are pretty great. I respect the time and math you all put into this a lot, but I'm pretty content to fall short of optimization so I don't remove the challenge from my games. I'm very guilty of optimizing the fun out of games and feeling burnt out whenever I make it too easy for myself.
Pathfinder is the game I've probs enjoyed crunching numbers in the most. Now that it's in a video game format I can play by myself without scheduling time with friends during covid… it's kinda become my daily relaxing game even though it's probs one of the more mentally demanding games I own? But it's a good kind of crunch.
I dropped FFXIV and Genshin dailies to play more Wrath of the Righteous. ^^; But it's still nice to put on your streams in the background.
The whole thing about honey was really appreciated. Sharing your experiences with her must have been hard because of what you guys went through. I'm sorry you guys had to go through that. She's a really horrible person holy sht
Also that last bit with you two genuinely made me cry. I hope for the best with you two and may you both stay best friends forever ^^
Lmao just after the discussion of the honey hunter deleting evidence, I check the website and the disclaimer has been edited to half of what it was
I legit almost cried in the end😢😢
Jinx and Tuner: "Dont pull in banners the moment they're released."
Me who pulled every limited banner I want the moment they're released: 😂
The last part of the podcast is so wholesome
I'm sorry to hear that Tuner, but know that there are people that support you. You guys have helped me so much with Genshin during my early game and I will always be grateful for that. Sadly I dont watch twitch but I do look forward to watching your photography vids 😊
I moved from FF14 to Genshin last year, lol
didn't expect to end up crying by the end of this, but it was a good kind of cry
Anyone else trying out Ayaka with Xingqiu and Raiden? Ayaka applies frozen so quickly, that you can get superconduct and still keep the enemy frozen.
TIL restaurant work is mad similar to the Marine Corps lol
Damn, Tuner. I relate bigtime. As a heads up, this sentence is about to get super dark, but I remember every night as a child I would wish my hardest that I would find a best friend, or, if that wasn't possible, never wake up again. I'm 27 now and I've finally accepted being alone – I can't fathom why, but it was during Yoimiya's character quest that the old "you're a whole person by yourself" thing finally clicked – but I'd of course still be overjoyed to find such a person. Since a lot of people find their life partner in the form of a spouse though, being ace is an additional barrier, which makes me extra glad whatever it was that triggered my sudden change in outlook on the matter popped up in that quest. (As an aside, I really wish I'd written down whatever the cause was at the time, because looking back, I can't see any connection to the cutscene I was viewing and I am BAFFLED.)
So, for what it's worth… I'm glad you're here. One of my biggest fears when I was more preoccupied with finding that friend was that, if they had felt and experienced the sort of things that would let them understand me, they might not be alive anymore. It's comforting to have an example before me of someone who is. And, contrary to my fears, I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels that way. So thank you both for being so open about mental health and your personal experiences.
I saw your chat say you've been streaming FFXIV. I started the game a few years ago and fell in love with it, especially the calming music in Ul'dah, my starting city. I'm bad at it, but I've been doing savage raids for a couple years now and I enjoy it. When I first started raiding I was so excited that I practiced every single day. With how dedicated I was you'd think I thought I had a career in e-sports lol. I went from god-awful to passable-but-still-bad. XD I found a static that doesn't mind that I "git gud" at a snail's pace. They're awesome people, and we meet up even in the off-season on our raid days to make sure everyone's getting the social interaction they need between tiers. ♥ Sometimes for FF, sometimes for other games, and sometimes just to chat.
I finally made a Twitch account recently, so hopefully I can catch one of your FF streams. o/ If you see a verneve, it's me! 😀 Or an imposter. Who knows, really.
I feel like I saw a retirement announcement followed with a marriage proposal. Please take care of yourselves guys, and post any gaming stuff you want, we're all just passing through the content in Genshin anyway.
I wish you both luck with all ur future endeavors and big thanks for all the work.
Finally finished watching the video.
You guys may not do much genshin stuff nowadays, but I gotta say your friendship is a beautiful thing to watch and it's one of the things that make me go back here.
I didn't know about the Honey stuff. I've had them bookmarked for months (I came from Monster Hunter as well, but didn't use their stuff for it) because the site is nice to look up numbers directly. But this is enough reason for me to find an alternative or just do without, to be honest.
love to hear both of your voices again Tuner and Jinx
I hard agree with the "wait a little before pulling" tip, specially since I am 100% F2P. That is, if you are trying to or need to optimize your account.
I hard pulled on Zhongli's rerun and on Raiden's banner without checking any info, simply because I am collecting the Archons and find them fun/stylish xD
Okay I got to Sara C2 and I think she might work really well with Childe/Ajax/Tartaglia. She provides an excellent way to manage Childe's cooldown so you can just go ham with him for 6 seconds, swap to Sara and repeat.
Sara is gonna be a balancing nightmare in the future though.
it's so sad that triple cryo team with eula actually works better than raiden-eula. Triple cryo freeze team with burst dps ayaka and mona actually managed to 36 star abyss 🙁
Hmph hmph hmph
Them: Why are you pulling the moment the banner comes out? It's only a risk!
Me: It's a risk I'm willing to bloody take!
The real endgame was the bromance we made along the way (my dudes ill watch anything you do take your time and pace yourself, well be here)
Bennet anime protag tier. OP but no one will belive
TOO fuc*inf LATE.
Responsibility arguments are weird
If you invent something, a small percentage of people will eventually find a way to either kill themselves or others with it. The only thing you can do is minimise the risk
This creates a separate problem of how much should be done to minimise risk?
Much like speed limits, the only way your words can have a 0% chance of being taken out of context and used to harass people is not speak at all
Of course, creators have some responsibility (and I think you guys done a decent amount to reduce toxicity) but people also have the right to express themselves even if it does carry risk. To caveat everything you say would be tantamount to reducing speed limits everywhere to 20mph
not watched the entire thing but up to the end of the big drama stuff. to be honest I never knew about the drama and just continued using the site as normal. I'm glad that it's getting some coverage so I can stop using that site. Thank you for sharing this even though it must be difficult
They literally baited with Beidou by giving a free one right before she came out in the event prior. Raiden interaction is legit bugged for a few things that make no sense. She doesn't work with Electro MC's lighting blade (E) skill which should boost Raidens electro bonus damage due to her passive from the energy recharge boost. On top of this for some strange reason she works with shimenawa's set in her burst with her normals, charged and plunges. Raiden's burst would be praised if it was simply another element literally any other element outside of electro which just shows how poorly electro does in the grand scheme of genshin compared to everything else. For a bonus on top of all of this electro resonance is the only element to require an outside element to even trigger its effect.
I think shes an amazing unit that's held back by electro and even more so by not being compatible with 2 top tier electro characters and needs some bug fixes. Really great video overall covering multiple topics.
Damn that was some real shit.
I'm sympathetic about what happened between you guys and honey, but don't you guys think you could separate the person from the service? I think losing access to leaks (in general) is a big loss to f2p and low spenders. And since you guys don't really have a horse in the content creator race anymore, I think voicing your support for more consumer friendly practices wouldn't cause you grief with mihoyo.
Never thought I’d ever hear “Xingqiu can drop Sac Sword”
Poor tuner 😔
Why u are collecting all these ores?
I dont get why Jinx is shitting on Raiden without doing any calculations or his own testing. She increases Eula team rotation to 24 seconds, hence that means 20% more damage needs to occur to compensate. But that is already taken care of because Raiden's E buffs Eula damage by 24% and Raiden's own damage is much stronger than even C6 Fischl when looking at damage output from E and Q together as well as AoE. He acts as if Raiden is just extending rotation times without improving damage at all and thus it is a DPS loss. Her main benefit in a National team is that she makes Xiangling Ult and Xinqui ult cost 55-60 enregy effectively, allowing us to run like 130 ER on both rather than traditional 180 ER (replacing an ER weapon or ER sands with more damage). That concept applies to all other 80 cost ult chatacters since I already disproved the rotation time DPS loss nonsense.
Yeh, one thing I don't like from Raiden is her constellation make her op. That piss off most of f2p and low spend players who can only afford c0 or at least c1. I don't mean she's useless at c0 but make her like from 2.5/5 to 4/5 is too much.
A bit late, but have the eula, raiden, sara, diona rotations been made available somewhere? Interested in learning them.