Nahida is NOT Rukkhadevata, BUT… | Sun & Moon Pt. 1.9 | Genshin Impact Theory
Yep…I don’t believe Nahida is the same as Rukkhadevata, but they are cut from the same cloth.
Welcome to another Sun & Moon entry! This video will explore Rukkhadevata and Kusanali’s relationship, as well as their parallels with a certain God of Time. Not gonna lie, 60% of this video is pure brainrot!
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Sumeru & the Dendro Archon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjO1-U5wJI
Part 1.5 Sun & Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiF66tPV7Kw&t=2014s
Part 1.8 Sun & Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4IeAo3dG5c&t=1203s
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Papaya | Final Fantasy XIV
Sumeru | Genshin Impact
Swirls of Shamshir | Genshin Impact
Uncle Ruckus’ Theme | The Boondocks
Lost Legacies in the Sand/Nahida: Happy Birthday vocals [not official name] | Genshin Impact
Neath Dark Waters | Final Fantasy XIV
The Days When My Mother Was There | Persona 5
Sands of Amber | Final Fantasy XIV
Hustle and Bustle of Ormos | Genshin Impact
Scorching Outpost | Genshin Impact
For Riddles, for Wonders | Genshin Impact
Beneath the Mask [rain] | Persona 5
Friendship’s Union | Kingdom Hearts 3
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That ending holy shit
Big brain moment, thank you for the extra IQ 😘
Brain hurt
Probably not confused
Just brain hurt
in the aranara quest, the aranaras keep referring to the traveler as golden like the SUN, and paimon as silver like the MOON
i always saw it as kusanali is a reflection of rukha. like a reincarnation. the moon reflects the light of the sun. it does not shine on its own. this shows how kusanali sees herself. Kusanali shows herself as someone who only shines dimly through her continuation of ruhka’s practices.
my basic thoughts are that Kusanali and Rukkhadevata ARE the same person in some form- whether the original archon shrunk, or was cloned or something else is still up in the air. However, Kusanali isn’t truly Rukkhadevata anymore; she doesn’t have her memories, experiences or knowledge. Rukkhadevata most likely shrunk once when helping the scarlet king sacrifice himself, and then again during the cataclysm (probably her sacrificing herself). After that she esentially became a blank slate; in all respects, a completely different person. This would explain why their designs are so similar, the statues being the second Rukkhadevata form, and Kusanali seemingly having no knowledge/little power despite being the Dendro Archon.
I also don’t think the sages have any idea that Kusanali was originally Rukkhadevata. They respected the original archon to such a degree that I don’t think they would immediately shun her just because she lost her memories and knowledge through a sacrifice. If they did, then I will punt them across a field.
ALSO ALSO the words we hear from Irminsul: “World forget me…” I think there are a few different ways the blank words can be filled out, with each having some interesting implications:
[The] world [will] forget me…
[I want the] world [to] forget me…
[Will the] world forget me…
[I wnat the] world [to] forget me…
Just some food for thought 😉
anyways great video 😀
Amazing video!!!!!
My brain has reached it capacity 😅 The ending bro, the akademiya man
This is an interesting hypothesis.
While I agree with you that Kusanali is not Rukkhadevata, I think that she is the Flower Goddess reborn.
-She's got flower imagery everywhere, especially her eyes, which look like those viparyas that only appear in the dream reality of Aranyaka.
-The flower goddess was associated with dreams
-Sabzerus festival comes from her
Anyway, hopefully we will know the answer next week. I love watching these videos and thinking about things. They always make me see things in a new way! The parallels between Rukkhadevata and Istaroth are very intriguing indeed.
Okay… Pardon my typo or paragraph here if it is confusing.
But If this is right… Then the sages literally confine a child, well… a baby God or child to be technical, who barely understand (I mean… Born, right?) zilch about her role as a "God" for Sumeru. And they technically not "like" her, so the sages putting her for house arrest, for 500 years later, just because she's not who they wanted. They mourn her arrival in the teaser. "Mourn" her "Arrival".
Again, I understand this is a game and the scale of what the difference between a god and human are, even in Genshin context, but the Sages put a child on a pedestal she's clearly couldn't lived up to because they're never expecting anything of her in the first place. Damn it… This is messed up…
I'm dead I'm crying Hhahahhahah
tldr… just wait for the 3.2 quest 😅
You're consistently at connecting dots but also openng up points to discuss and look out for. All these theories have added to my experience of the game, so a big thanks to you, I hope more people check this out, and til Sun & Moon 1.958/2 Days Re:Final RemiX video up next
Lmao Ashikai having Yanfei as her avatar and Onion having Heizou as his avatar lol
I knew Mona's bird had something to do with Sumeru. You're probably the first one i saw tackle on the subject.
Okay I have a couple of points
1- I absolutely adore your theory videos and they are so enjoyable to me, so thanks for that
2- if you know "ashikai" a fellow theory making genshin content creator, she had a lot of similarities with the first part of your video which is just amazing and unbelievable to me, how similar your mindsets are yet how you in the end had completely different final theories (it's that or the first part is really obvious and I'm just stupid, but surely not)
And that's it, have a great day♥️
Almost every player thinks that nahida is Rukkhadevata..However, it is strange that no one in the akademiya think so. We know that the people in the akademiya has very high IQ. There is no reason ordinary fools like us(players) think of the possibility that they can not.
I thought for a moment, the reason maybe : 500 years ago, when dealing with the cataclysm, Rukkhadevata must have thought out various plans, such as Plan B and Plan C,plan D…… because she is the God of Wisdom. There may be a plan Z in case she dies..
The plan Z was :she told the akademiya that if she died, they would go to Specific places to find the next archon of dendro. If they find the next archon of dendro, she is really dead. If they don't , she is still alive.. This is the reason why the akademiya know where to find nahida and know she is next archon . and she is not Rukkhadevata
So akademiya never thought that nahida was Rukkhadevata himself.. even they look very similar…that explain why akademiya doesn't respect Nahida at all
but…. what if Rukkhadevata lie to akademiya …..even God of wisdom has the right to lie right? so Nahida still has small chance to be Rukkhadevata herself🤔 or One of her avatars or children
Hmmmm… "The transparent, unseen bird that always sings, guiding people through the night and to their destinies" Idk but I thought about paimon with that
i can gladly comfirm. my brain turned into poo
imo I think that there’s the adult, teen, and child.
Rukadevhatta’s the original Dendro archon (the adult), but after using her power with the Scarlet’s King sacrifice, she became a teen.
Few tons of years later, Khanrriah came, and she had to expend her power once more, turning into the loli.
The reason why she lost her memory and power is explained in the Aranara world quest (which istg was too long but the ending was GODLY). The Aranara’s explain that their power accumulates mainly with time, and when they use that power, they expend all of their being; losing their memories and powers
But we’ll have to wait and see until the last act(s) of Sumeru’s chapter is revealed
My… my mind is blown.
I thought Rukkhadevata was Nahida's mother
Ayo the end of this theory hit me like a TRUCK. I didn’t even notice the color pallet similarities.
Exceptional breakdown. I got so sick of people perpetuating theory as myth then flaming you for being "wrong."
As you said, the timeline and how things are just don't add up if you were to say Rukka=Kusa, that's already the first thing folk seem to never notice and just make stuff up.
Some of these comments are literally going "cool vid, but i think the same old theory that was literally disproven in your video is correct tho"
I hope this vid gets out there, people need to learn how to read in general. Earned a sub from me.
If this Theory were to be real, then the leak about the Dendro Archon being the most powerful would make a ton of sense.
goddamn dude, first video of yours ive seen and its an absolute banger. ive been constantly trying to tell people "hey, i dont think kusanali is rukkhadevata" (and getting a lot of hate for it lmao) and every point ive made is in your video. im so glad you explained how its possible kusanali is rukka after losing her memories and thus being technically dead, but went ahead and said you dont think thats the case. i will now go binge the rest of your series lmao
The aranaras keep mentioning paimon as silver moon because her hair is like the moon, we all know that aranara always use analogies to describe things based on how they look… so its either paimon is one of the moon (but the aranara can't tell because she looks so different) or paimon is heavily related to moon sister just like aranara to rukkhadevata.
SPOILER! The fact that Nahida ascension material is kalpalata lotus already validate this video, keep up the good analysis ma frend
I saw a tweet that sums all of this up, they said that Rhukka and Nahida's relationship is basically like Groot and baby Groot
So packed with info. Thank you for bringing it all together so neatly.
One of my theory was that Kusinali was a created god made by Rukka- similar to what happening now with sacara bc Rukk know she wont be able to make it back from the catalysm (it start to make little more sense to me when he say about rukk becoming part of the tree). this explain why there no memory cause she a new god and it now like mother and daughter relationship – it a theory with a lot of hole but it is something i been thinking of
This was basically just istaroth propaganda, half of it wasn’t even about either of the dendro archons, and all you had to say was “I don’t think they’re the same person 🤷🏼♂️”
Literally, the moment before I clicked your video I was thinking about how the known Archons deal with erosion. Venti sleeps for centuries at a time, Ei separated her mind from her body and meditates, Zhongli quietly accepts his fate, but Nahida in a way cheated the system by returning to a state devoid of memories. I thought if Nahida can escape erosion in this way then she is essentially immortal like hydras in our real world. Your linking of Istorath to Nahida rang in my mind and turned thoughts that were vague and murky into clear water.
Thank you for the great video you got a new sub.
Do you know who else has relations to Ishtar? Aphrodite, the Greek goddess of love and beauty. (It's been speculated that her cult made its way to Greece along with her husband, which went under the name "Adonis.") The kind of god we've speculated the Tsaritsa once was. I've seen Nahida as more of an Athena character personally with her weird birth and her ties to wisdom, but it's interesting to think that, in the end, most of the Genshin archons may have ties to one another in more ways than we think.
🤯🤯🤯🤯
I would like to point something out that doesn’t contribute much but always cemented the “K can’t be R. It’s a plot hole” for me
Not everyone thinks that losing memory is the same as death. For example, Xiangling still sees Guoba as the god of the stove (you can interpret this through some of her lines to him during the Latern Right during 2022) Even though he’s lost all his power and doesn’t remember anything, she still sees him as his old self. Just not as huge
The memories and death theme may be a cultural aspect. Zhongli also doesn’t view a loss of memory as a death. A withering sure, but not a death. He refers to Guoba as an old friend even when they have not met since Guoba’s loss of power (confirmed by how Guoba does not remember him, and can only vaguely recognize him)
Zhongli specifically stated that Venti and him are the only original archons left. Rukkedavata is dead. There is no way around that. She died at Khanri’ah and Zhongli was there to witness it. He knows she’s dead
The clones/kind of daughter??? (Since trees reproduce asexually, the line between clone and offspring is very blurry) theory makes a lot of sense.
However R cannot be K. Zhongli explicitly confirms this
I absolutely love this
I think the Statue of the Seven depicts teenage Rukkhadevata after she had used up her power. She mostly likely regressed further into Nahida after the Cataclysm.
DOTTORE'S GONNA DROP BIG LORE BOMB IN THIS ACT OR THE LAST ACT
So is the takeaway that Kusanali was made by Istaroth and uses Rukkhadevata as source material, and that Nahida and Rukka parallel the Homa bird and that arm lady??? My brain juices ran out…
explain "the world forget me" line then
Rukadivata became a child that looks a bit older and bigger than Kusanali so…… Why not assume that she used all of her power AGAIN during the cataclysm and regression happened again?
This was incredible T-T 💜
(Btw if u play port ormos music in the background i will not be able to understand u bcuz i will be dancing and thinking about the music 😅🙃 had to rewatch that part and try very hard to ignore the amazing banger going on)
Does this means that paimon becomes small or childlike because she used all her powers or it was taken away?
– and oh my god my god paimon and nahida are sisters
Okayyy!! Firstly, just wanna say: this video was beautifully well done! 🤩
Secondly: the parallels you made with the sages in the trailer and that panel from the manga blew my gd mind!! Dhhdjdl 😆 but fr, I know we've all seen stuff by now about paimon possibly having links to time and even being istaroth, but seeing it from this angle as like a frame story for kusanli and rukkha is nuts!!! Most of the vid may have been brain rot but I don't mind it one bit kdhbdk
Thank you for all that you do, onion 🥲❤️ I'll be waiting patiently for any new vids on the horizon 🙏