So basically Kazuha is gated by his weapons. At C2 I would say he's stronger than sucrose at buffing in general, it's just that sucrose has access to a three-star weapon that's more broken than some 4-5 stars in supporting. I love sucrose and was one of the few people who played her a ton back when many just though she was budget venti but I love my Kazuha more as he just fits my style so well.
So the only thing that wants one to pull for him are 1.you like his personality / his playstyle lmao
till now I thought Sucrose can keep up to Kazuha but nmm if you invest in building Sucrose, 1. she is a better support 2. her damage scaling can be on the same level as of decent Kazuhas (still her being an alot better damage amplifier outdoes Kazuhas bit more damage)
Conclusion: Kazuha is just a moneymagnet to benifit mihoyo cause of his "coolness" and his "fun playstyle" and we already have a better Kazuha which is even 4* …damn Mihoyo do be wanting our money
I pulled for kazuha but i hoped for kazuha to be a bit better and perform way better than sucrose at c0. also hoped the em bonus wouldn't be tied to his constellation
One thing I find about kazuha is that the element he swirls is the one he is in contact with while others like sucrose and venti prefers swirling element the enemy is in contact with. Which makes it easier for him to shred shields in the abyss imo but I think both sucrose and kazuha does quite the same thing when it comes to support roles
You need to show Diluc's elemental mastery. EM has diminishing returns so if Diluc has low EM, Sacarosa would be Much better on him. Its relevant to show all stats to understand who could be better in a specific scenario.
They’re both good, I have sucrose before but now I am using kazuha too along side my sucrose cus I love them both. Also it’s amazing sucrose (4 star) can keep up with a 5 star. But overall kazuha is my fave character to play and he’s sooo fun. I love sucrose’s gameplay too but it requires a lot of stamina
kazu can boost everyone elemental dmg if more than one element is swirled, so in the end for example lets say you have diluc and fischl, and kazu achieve to swirl both elements, then diluc and fischl will have a massive boost on their pyro and electro dmg output.
This video comparison is more like reaction dmg boost, since we are comparing one big melt hit, but if we take into consideration overall dmg amplification im sure kazuha wins if we put my example as a proof.
kazuha lets us have a new way to min max (giving elem dmg boost). so we can try putting EM or ATK goblet. not sure how it will go though but it's definitely something new
What are Diluc's starting stats? Post buffs? How much damage does he do before any buff? Is Diona C6? Also are we sure the widsith passive adds to the EM Sucrose transfers. For example, Sucrose transfering EM to Kazuha does nothing for his damage bonus passive. Besides, widsith is not BiS for a support EM transfer based Sucrose anyway, so I'm confused on why that's used here. It's too inconsistent even if it does transfer. This is a very unsatisfying comparison tbh.
Considerando que las constelaciones de Sacarosa están completas y las de Kazuha no, dudo mucho que hayas tomado eso en cuenta, para llamarlo así… "comparación".
Well, Im predicting that new characters in the future will be skill and auto attack dependent, rather than elemental reaction due to kazuha being released as a support that amplifies elemental dmg buff.
Some people told me if i went over 100% elemental dmg, there'll br diminishing returns. I thought that thing only works on atk% ? Can any1 enlighten me pls
The comparison is very good and everything, but you also have to see that sucrose is completely supportive, there is the proof that sucrose is good but, also she had all the constellations and kazuha is not completely supportive and did not have the constellations ( Although having them is a bit difficult 😂), although there is a bit of difference between what each buffets. They are both very good and everyone can use whatever they want 👍.
Because they buff different things and Kazuha reapplies an element with the second part of his skill, you can actually use BOTH Kazuha's and Sucrose's buff with tales of dragons for nuke compositions! The order would be: Apply element of nuke -> Kazuha swirl -> Sucrose swirl (removes element) -> swap to nuke for thrilling tales atk buff -> switch character and apply the element needed for the reaction you're going for -> Nuke burst
I have both c6 sucrose(at lvl80) and c0 kazuha (lvl70) and from my PERSONAL experience it's Kazuha > Sucorse for most cases. Things like exploring, CC, dps (i switch my characters roles alot) Kazuha excels in those but for dmg buff in abyss and certain domains, sucrose takes the cake.
Hope my info help some of u guys decide rather to pull or skip for him and to the kazuha wanters, don't listen to the comments; he is not "useless" and I'm sure many ppl don't play genshin just to do abyss and domains 24/7, pull for him he's so worth it especially if you explore alot like me!!
Imo, kazuha is the better character, but not by much. I feel like running thrilling tails on sucrose is good, but you could be losing out on a lot of damage, as well as energy recharge if you would have just used sac frags. I like kazuha cc better just because it's more consistent, and there damage potentials are very similar, but sucrose relys on thrilling tails and c1 to pump out more damage. On top of this, she had some er issues when I played her while my 15 er kazuha got his burst up very quickly. I also want to give props to mihoyo for not completely powe creeping sucrose, as she is still relevevent and good!
Man… Diluc's deep voice-
So basically Kazuha is gated by his weapons. At C2 I would say he's stronger than sucrose at buffing in general, it's just that sucrose has access to a three-star weapon that's more broken than some 4-5 stars in supporting. I love sucrose and was one of the few people who played her a ton back when many just though she was budget venti but I love my Kazuha more as he just fits my style so well.
So the only thing that wants one to pull for him are
1.you like his personality / his playstyle lmao
till now I thought Sucrose can keep up to Kazuha but nmm if you invest in building Sucrose,
1. she is a better support
2. her damage scaling can be on the same level as of decent Kazuhas (still her being an alot better damage amplifier outdoes Kazuhas bit more damage)
Conclusion: Kazuha is just a moneymagnet to benifit mihoyo cause of his "coolness" and his "fun playstyle" and we already have a better Kazuha which is even 4* …damn Mihoyo do be wanting our money
Co is (S) but C1,2,3,4…. Is(SSS)?
Let’s say the enemy has 20% resist.
Does -15% elemental resist do the same damage as +15% elemental damage boost?
Genius content
I pulled for kazuha but i hoped for kazuha to be a bit better and perform way better than sucrose at c0. also hoped the em bonus wouldn't be tied to his constellation
So C0 Kazuha Gives more Damage of 128,306. Sucrose C6 gives 116,486. Thrilling tales can be given to any Catalyst user to buff attack.
One thing I find about kazuha is that the element he swirls is the one he is in contact with while others like sucrose and venti prefers swirling element the enemy is in contact with. Which makes it easier for him to shred shields in the abyss imo but I think both sucrose and kazuha does quite the same thing when it comes to support roles
Still picked Kazuha, because he's a five star, and i love seeing him in my party
I just want to have Ningguang to come home so I could pair her up with Geo Daddy
I don’t think it’s the characters who’s doing the buff it’s literally just the catalyst weapons xD
I got Kazuha and i'm a little upset because everyone is saying that Sucrose is better, and also idk who to choose :/
conclusion, if you have sucrose especially C6. it is okay to skip Kazuha since there are many future character awaiting us
So the weapons are main here…thrilling tales is too powerful to be an 3 star support book
When U compare a 4* with a 5*
This is What i've been finding the whole day
What about both of them in the same team
Just gonna have them both in my team xd
You need to show Diluc's elemental mastery. EM has diminishing returns so if Diluc has low EM, Sacarosa would be Much better on him. Its relevant to show all stats to understand who could be better in a specific scenario.
Thanks for the dmg comparison vid. (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤
Idc about numbers. I just love to play with kazuha more than sucrose 😅😅
So level 70 succrose with a 3 star weapon is better than the new 5 star?
Glad I skipped this banner
They’re both good, I have sucrose before but now I am using kazuha too along side my sucrose cus I love them both. Also it’s amazing sucrose (4 star) can keep up with a 5 star. But overall kazuha is my fave character to play and he’s sooo fun. I love sucrose’s gameplay too but it requires a lot of stamina
Me who doesn’t even have sucrose: interesting
Everyone :
"WHO IS THE BEST!!!!"
Me:
"Why don't use both ????"
kazu can boost everyone elemental dmg if more than one element is swirled, so in the end for example lets say you have diluc and fischl, and kazu achieve to swirl both elements, then diluc and fischl will have a massive boost on their pyro and electro dmg output.
This video comparison is more like reaction dmg boost, since we are comparing one big melt hit, but if we take into consideration overall dmg amplification im sure kazuha wins if we put my example as a proof.
Resumen: Sucrose>kazuha
I dont care what anyone says im using pretty boi
如果是拿浪末應該就不同了
kazuha lets us have a new way to min max (giving elem dmg boost). so we can try putting EM or ATK goblet. not sure how it will go though but it's definitely something new
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What are Diluc's starting stats? Post buffs? How much damage does he do before any buff? Is Diona C6? Also are we sure the widsith passive adds to the EM Sucrose transfers. For example, Sucrose transfering EM to Kazuha does nothing for his damage bonus passive. Besides, widsith is not BiS for a support EM transfer based Sucrose anyway, so I'm confused on why that's used here. It's too inconsistent even if it does transfer. This is a very unsatisfying comparison tbh.
Considerando que las constelaciones de Sacarosa están completas y las de Kazuha no, dudo mucho que hayas tomado eso en cuenta, para llamarlo así… "comparación".
Well, Im predicting that new characters in the future will be skill and auto attack dependent, rather than elemental reaction due to kazuha being released as a support that amplifies elemental dmg buff.
Why not take both?
Some people told me if i went over 100% elemental dmg, there'll br diminishing returns. I thought that thing only works on atk% ? Can any1 enlighten me pls
but you forgot to use their elemental burst… both can buff elemental dmg
Not bad as a 4 star……
The comparison is very good and everything, but you also have to see that sucrose is completely supportive, there is the proof that sucrose is good but, also she had all the constellations and kazuha is not completely supportive and did not have the constellations ( Although having them is a bit difficult 😂), although there is a bit of difference between what each buffets. They are both very good and everyone can use whatever they want 👍.
Because they buff different things and Kazuha reapplies an element with the second part of his skill, you can actually use BOTH Kazuha's and Sucrose's buff with tales of dragons for nuke compositions! The order would be: Apply element of nuke -> Kazuha swirl -> Sucrose swirl (removes element) -> swap to nuke for thrilling tales atk buff -> switch character and apply the element needed for the reaction you're going for -> Nuke burst
I have both c6 sucrose(at lvl80) and c0 kazuha (lvl70) and from my PERSONAL experience it's Kazuha > Sucorse for most cases.
Things like exploring, CC, dps (i switch my characters roles alot) Kazuha excels in those but for dmg buff in abyss and certain domains, sucrose takes the cake.
Hope my info help some of u guys decide rather to pull or skip for him and to the kazuha wanters, don't listen to the comments; he is not "useless" and I'm sure many ppl don't play genshin just to do abyss and domains 24/7, pull for him he's so worth it especially if you explore alot like me!!
Imo, kazuha is the better character, but not by much. I feel like running thrilling tails on sucrose is good, but you could be losing out on a lot of damage, as well as energy recharge if you would have just used sac frags. I like kazuha cc better just because it's more consistent, and there damage potentials are very similar, but sucrose relys on thrilling tails and c1 to pump out more damage. On top of this, she had some er issues when I played her while my 15 er kazuha got his burst up very quickly. I also want to give props to mihoyo for not completely powe creeping sucrose, as she is still relevevent and good!
Me with dps Kazuha and support Sucorse on the same team watching petty fights between Kazuha-havers and non-Kazuha-havers 👀
Still wishing kazuha can buff anemo and geo so he can have a kit that's unique. He's a five star after all.
Higher ur atk=em better
Lowest ur atk=ele dmg bonus better
What if you put them in the team together?
What about vaporize teams, will Kazuha be a bettet support than Sucrose (I'm using sacrificial fragment)
fuck meta,all i want is husbu and waifus