Hp% goblet will deal more damage with Yelan if Furina is involved in the team. Fanfare stack from furina gave so much DMG bonus buff that make the scaling need more in Hp% so the multiplier can keep up, but it depends on a lot of things. Could be small different could be huge like talent wise etc.
From my own experience, the difference is around 10-15% maybe. My Yelan with Hydro goblet deal 12k per hit(36k because hit 3 times)with her burst and with Hp% goblet she deal 15k x 3(45k). This is from Abyss run with VV shred and full fanfare stack. The crit dmg is 3,8% different, higher on hp% goblet.
They were saying that if you run furina either yelan she would do better since furina’s buff is better than a hydro goblet is say an off peice for furina is better since you always want to run hp on furina cause she both gets her buff which compensates for the loss of a hydro goblet and has her A4 passive also if you run kazuha than the damage gap increases further
If you have a lot of other sources of DMG%, HP goblet can become better. People call it diminishing returns, since the more of one stat you have, the less increasing it will increase your total damage. You should be comparing your damage when buffed. For your personal build, your hydro goblet will still be slightly better, but for other players, the HP goblet may be better if it has significantly more good substats. However over time, hydro will be better because it can have HP% as a substat, while HP goblets have a maximum of 3 good substats for Yelan
I have actually had an opposite happen to my characters where the elemental damage bonus goblets did way less damage than their main stat scaling stats😂
It is good tho, it has 34 crit value. Also, if you were to use furina om the same team, the damage could get closer since furina buffs so much damage If you were to use kazuha AND furina, id say the hp one could be better.
Hp one is also better for furina if you can't get to 40k hp without it, which is normal since you more than likely may want an ER sands on her.
I would say give it to Candace honestly, since you have to give her everything HP and you also have to give her either 2 piece emblem 2 piece HP% or 4 piece emblem(apparently those are her best sets)
i wouldn’t use hp gob yelan but the reason furina uses hp gob is cuz she gets a lot of bonus from 4 golden troupe set and her own ult buff
likewise you would probs see a smaller difference if u used yelan’s ult to test the damage instead of her skill (since obvs that’s what emblem gives bonus for and is more relevant in this scenario)
both are good? no one is wrong hydro goblets have a higher ceiling but its harder to get a good one especially on set, plus with external buffs and dmg% the difference starts to become smaller
Nahhhh who said raiden 💀💀💀
U have 51 k hp on hydro goblet and 47k hp on hp goblet
What's going on?🧐
I need a good goblet piece for my Raiden. I want mire luck bc I only get physical and def
Hp% goblet will deal more damage with Yelan if Furina is involved in the team. Fanfare stack from furina gave so much DMG bonus buff that make the scaling need more in Hp% so the multiplier can keep up, but it depends on a lot of things. Could be small different could be huge like talent wise etc.
From my own experience, the difference is around 10-15% maybe. My Yelan with Hydro goblet deal 12k per hit(36k because hit 3 times)with her burst and with Hp% goblet she deal 15k x 3(45k). This is from Abyss run with VV shred and full fanfare stack. The crit dmg is 3,8% different, higher on hp% goblet.
Dude that is just so true and when I tell my friends that they dnt believe me 😅🤘
Furina is a buffer so definitely hp goblet for mine
When in doubt just use optimizer👍
Oh god my dream is having this much crit rate as minor upgrade in artifact
If your Yelan is under Furina's fanfare DMG boost, then she'll be fine with the HP goblet. Otherwise, hydro DMG goblet is better.
They were saying that if you run furina either yelan she would do better since furina’s buff is better than a hydro goblet is say an off peice for furina is better since you always want to run hp on furina cause she both gets her buff which compensates for the loss of a hydro goblet and has her A4 passive also if you run kazuha than the damage gap increases further
Hp goblet is better on yelan when used with furina and kazuha since they give dmg bonus
HP Goblet is better for Furina because she already gives so much damage bonus you don’t need a hydro dmg bonus. Furina needs hp
A lot of times atk/def/hp goblets ARE actually better for your characters if you’re running Furina. It really depends on your comps.
20 CRIT RATE??? WTF
Not the ‘your mom’ comment 😭
Nah on furina hp goblet is always better unless you have c2
Use furina buffs and try that test again
If you have a lot of other sources of DMG%, HP goblet can become better. People call it diminishing returns, since the more of one stat you have, the less increasing it will increase your total damage. You should be comparing your damage when buffed. For your personal build, your hydro goblet will still be slightly better, but for other players, the HP goblet may be better if it has significantly more good substats. However over time, hydro will be better because it can have HP% as a substat, while HP goblets have a maximum of 3 good substats for Yelan
I have actually had an opposite happen to my characters where the elemental damage bonus goblets did way less damage than their main stat scaling stats😂
Since furina gives around %75 Elemental DMG bonus, having an HP or ATK Goblet could be better since you have enough elemental dmg bonus
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Simple razor talk:
Character used for DPS, use element goblet
Character used for support, use the character's stat required for them
It is good tho, it has 34 crit value. Also, if you were to use furina om the same team, the damage could get closer since furina buffs so much damage
If you were to use kazuha AND furina, id say the hp one could be better.
Hp one is also better for furina if you can't get to 40k hp without it, which is normal since you more than likely may want an ER sands on her.
Holy hell people use genshin optimizer
I would say give it to Candace honestly, since you have to give her everything HP and you also have to give her either 2 piece emblem 2 piece HP% or 4 piece emblem(apparently those are her best sets)
hp is better for furina if you don’t have constellations or meet any hp requirements
Its still good
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Hp goblet better if u have furina stacks tho
i wouldn’t use hp gob yelan but the reason furina uses hp gob is cuz she gets a lot of bonus from 4 golden troupe set and her own ult buff
likewise you would probs see a smaller difference if u used yelan’s ult to test the damage instead of her skill (since obvs that’s what emblem gives bonus for and is more relevant in this scenario)
I think people ment if u use her w furina hydro goblet is better
Me carefully (and pausing the video) reading each individual text at the start of the video 👀👀
Aside from Furina in this video, im waiting for Kiko to make a happy birthday video for Rosaria xD
" Furrynut " i dont know who just called her that 💀
You should do Furina's burst first
I'm sorry but not everyone has aqua
So use it on furina
ITS FOR THE FURINA BURST 😭😭😭
i heard that hp on goblet is better for furina if she's not c2
Yes, but furina already has damage bonus in her kit, so it provides diminishing returns. That’s why hp is better most of the time
kinda true but always depends on existing dmg% and hp
Hp goblet only if you’re using furina cuz she gives dmg bonus Alreadu
Song pls
both are good? no one is wrong hydro goblets have a higher ceiling but its harder to get a good one especially on set, plus with external buffs and dmg% the difference starts to become smaller
If that isn't a C6 Yelan then holy crap, she is cracked