In this video, MrPokke reacts to Genshin Impact getting fined.
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03:35 CSGO
05:56 Company vs Consumer
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Getting fined for making too much money is something else really, damn kid that money should go for your future, you cant fund the game if you are becoming homeless in the next 5-10 years
Of course they chose a gacha game, completely ignoring non-gacha games with way more predetory monetization
why is it only mihoyo? if mihoyo gets fined for creating gacha games, then other games should also be fined. the people behind the lawsuit just doesnt like mihoyo.
im not defending just mihoyo, yes gacha games are predatory. i just think its unfair that for some reason only mihoyo got hit with the fine but not others, and 20m is prob just spare changes to mihoyo anyways
The lawsuit might not go through since genshin has ways to get primos without paying money further many games have had this issue for years just look at fortnite, overwatch, call of duty if genshin brings up the fact that the fact did bot intervene when this games have these issues we know how that lawsuit will go
parental controls exist
if my mom finds out im spending money on a game. ill not be breathing the next dawn
Ftc confirmed kurobot
Big W for pushing for more transparency and less predatory practices in hoyo games.
Massive L for not pushing it to be the norm with all kind of games and moving responsibility from parents. I dont get why Fifa gets a pass for the most scummist predatory gacha. This feels like a push by the DOJ to mess with chinese companies and only for that reason. Also screw COPPA.
I really like your videos and enjoy your streams but You're completely missing the point here
These are gatcha games , it's literally a gambling game that doesn't say anything about being a gatcha game in games stores descriptions, and it's perfectly rated for kids without mentioning anything about being gatcha
And when any parent sees a game like this he wouldn't know it a gambling game
And kids are dumb, they will fall for the gatcha predatory system and they will gain a gambling addiction habit whether you like it or not
And if they don't get the money from their parents they will get it from somewhere else , that's what addition does
And this is all cuz companies try so hard to hide the fact that these games are gatcha games while having a very low age requirement
And when a parent sees the game in an app store or play store saying it's 12+ while hiding the fact that it's a gatcha game he will think it's fine for his kids
So yes it is the company's fault for advertising the game as a kids game when it's clearly not
Do you think you can let your kid play a game that encourages them to gamble? And they say it's 12+
this clown youtubers is ban for starters.
tecmoan and his cronies is underage.
So MrPokke here's an example. If a thief steals and cops can't locate him to arrest him, who's at fault? the cops or thief?
You blaming the parents is putting blame on 1 party. This not an either or situation. the parents should enable 2FA yes, but Genshin is still at fault.
Otherwise why is Fraud a crime if most of the people that get defrauded could have taken steps not too. 1 wrong does not erase the other. Hoyo is a large corporation that's still committing fault at the end of the day.
Pokke I love you bro but you gotta stop it with these out of touch takes. It baffles me how consumers argue AGAINST consumer protection. Lets be real: ALL gacha games (genshin, wuwa, fgo, etc) utilize manipulative tactics to try to get people to spend money on their game (especially children since they are the easiest to influence). It's like your powercreep take all over again: yes parents can do their research to prevent it from happening but the companies know what they are doing and are actively trying to get you to spend your money. Just have a little bit of empathy for people who aren't familiar with these games and their methods because that's their target demographic. If anything, I believe hoyo should've been fined way more (like 200-500 mil) since that would actually set a precedent to other gachas in the space to be more transparent about their practices.
I guess all players who play gacha games are children now 😢
it aint that complicated. Dont let your children steal your credit card. Lets say your kid steals your money to buy ice cream and this happen multiple times, are we going to blame the ice cream company?
In this situation, its good that a gacha company is getting regulated more. Nobody oppose to that but we're talking about a 16 and under that cant even get a job or at least a full time job spending insane amount of money on gacha game based on what the FTC trying to regulate.
These arent old parents. The last 16 year old born in 2009. Parents arent technologically illiterate as before
I am 100% agreed with MrPokke because no way kids can access through the parent's credit password,username and code without secretly glance at their phone without their knowing
A solution would be to have banners like the bangboo in zzz. No 50/50s. If people are gonna C6, hoyo will get their money anyway. If anything hoyo may use $200-$300 per whale. They probably make that from dolphins with BP and monthly pass anyway.
bro bring out rotan hahaha
Your argument using CSGO unfortunately doesn't hold up. It's a classic case of whataboutism.
Skins are just that: skins. They do not impact gameplay function in any meaningful way.
You also have the option to buy the skin directly from a store, and the purchase of keys is in a dollar amount. It is a 17+/18+ game depending on the region, which are major points in the FTC's argument against Hoyo.
I do agree that the gambling sites for CSGO are disgusting, but defending the practice of gacha with no regulation (gambling directed at children) through whataboutism is a long overdue topic that must be addressed. Starting with one of the biggest culprits simply makes sense. Also, age ratings, as useless as they are, do matter when it comes to liability; an 18+ game having gambling features isn't as bad in the eyes of the law as a product targeted at children. There is a reason casinos and online gambling sites generally require some form of ID to put money on an account and for payouts if legal in the US. The worst of the CSGO gambling sites, which were directly targeted at children, also had action taken against them by the FTC. A slap on the wrist, just like Genshin, with the promise that all involved have to provide open access for audits to take place for any future online business they ever have dealings with, and a $40k penalty for every single infraction going forward directed at the people behind it themselves.
Age rating is also a reason why Fortnite got fined by the FTC for its use of digital dark patterns against children, which resulted in a much larger settlement. Overwatch literally didn't include loot boxes, which they had a hand in creating in the first place, in Overwatch 2 partially due to EU countries starting to regulate them one by one and the FTC having their eye on the problem.
You either have a massive lack of reading comprehension in the English language, or you are a shill and didn't even read the FTC guidance before trying to have a "take." Take your pick. It's one or the other at this point.
Here is the FTC guidance in case you have never read it:
Prohibited from allowing children under 16 to purchase loot boxes in their video games without a parent’s affirmative express consent;
Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money;
Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices, and features;
Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency;
Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and
Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements.
What about all the other gacha games? What about all the other mobile games with even more predatory marketing? Those games shoving cosmetic skins for guns on your screen every time you login? Why are they targeting just one of these games instead of all of them?
After banning TikTok, now they’re aiming for other big Chinese corporations lmao
the post from the person at (timestamp 1:47) exactly, is stupid, the visuals in description aren't made to deceive parents and kids, but to get someone to see it and be like "hm, this seems like a fun game", its not to hide the fact its a gacha game, its to get downloads, not to deceive people into wasting money, to get downloads, understand this, it supposed to look appealing to the consumer, or well it doesn't necessarily have to be, but I'd say consumers would be more inclined to download genshin then some poorly made online game that looks like it was created by a 1st grader, get your head out of your ass and be a better parent
All I can hear is Chin Chong Mutha Fuuuucka
Doro tweet is kinda dumb. I`m sorry. A gacha game don`t stop being predatory just because there`s people explaining how predatory it is, specially when there`s systems designed to trick you into not thinking straight before completing purchases. Making everything more transparent won`t ruin mihoyo but it can help some people to think twice before buying something they don`t want. This dumb system of buying a currency, to change to another currency to them get what you bought the currency for in the first place is designed to distance what you`re buying from how much it really cost. Consumers must take responsability in what they`re buying but the company must take responsability and make things as transparent as possible, but since we know that they`ll never do it without being afraid of the government get in the way, then legislation is necessary. Before people complain about this just think for one second, before "the government" get in the way even pull rates being public wasn't the standard in gacha games.
I disagree. Just because parental supervision can stop something doesnt mean we should allow it. There ARE bad parents in the world who have children addicted to drugs or doing all sorts of crimes because they don't care. Those things are illegal because we don't condone children being exposed to them and we shouldn't condone gambling in anime form being exposed to children either.
Kids these days, they never knew the power of dad's belt…oh wait, the dad is gone to buy milk most of the time 💀.
Also, they should sue all the gacha/games that have any gambling element in them.
I didn't even know how to use credit card when I was a kid
Idk why people still take PC Gamers as a reliable source. They suk balls just like every other mainstream media.
They fined hoyo not for gacha. They fined them mainly for violating Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA). They were collecting information of kids without their parent's consent.
The gacha part was just the icing on the cake to make the case stronger and fine them as much as possible.
Hoyo is now required to:
– pay the fine
– implement age restriction for in-game purchases
– remove any and all personal information of minors they have collected
– more transparency about the cost and odds of winning items using in-game transaction.
It's a good thing that happens for someone so greedy like genshin.
GENSHIN IS SO FUCKING DEAD DUDE I AM HAPPY <3 HOYOVERSE IS A JOKE TRASH COMPANY
this lawsuit is like double edge sword for american player.
if hoyo win, there's high potential they'll get banned and the same will be applied to other gacha games,
if hoyo lose, there's high potential they'll shut down american server completely, and other gacha games potentially follow the same move, also it's a big loses for american player especially for whale who spend so much money and time into the games
well, whatever the result, if hoyo shut down american server, i'll be so happy, cuz less drama on this community, and i'll screaming out loud "ENJOY YOUR STUPID LGBT GAMES"
oh boy i forgot to mention, most of gacha games CC's would be suffer for this, and i can't wait to see their reaction
If the age rating isnt appropriate that’s the ESRBs problem. They approved this game for children knowing everything about it.
People act like Kids don't lie as easy as they breath to get what they want because they don't know better. A LOT of kids also steal there parents credit card as well. Another thing is if a parent does a 1 time purchase on the kids Ipad or for a subscription service for say netflix for example, that card is saved to the ipad for said subscription unless the parent GETS rid of it from settings. If they get distracted, and forget, that card is easily accessible to the kid now.
Also, I would say a good chunk of people don't look at statements in depth unless the number is astronomically different. I.E, you normally spend 500 on expenses and you spend 700 one month not realizing the kid spent 200. You would just think you spent more than normal that month and will be more careful. You would only notice when your statement is 1500 and look into it. People might say, oh that's still there fault yet I know people have subscriptions that they STILL pay for and not realize it.
I work for a membership based company and we just dealt with a women demanding a refund on 6 years with of membership fee's totaling 600+ dollars cause she had auto renewal and never realized it. She only got current renewal fee back. People are very forgetful.
that doesn't mean everyone is like that though. I also think people don't realize that a good chunk of people even today really know a lot of things in gaming to understand what a GACHA is, especially parents that don't play games.
It’s not the parents fault, most of the people in here probably don’t realise how hard it is to bring up kids and they don’t have the time or energy to check everything their kids are doing 24/7
You can all watch Teccy's video instead of this useless content.
Kuro game is the next, because Tencent is on the priority list of the new US government.
I hope they shut down all the NA servers, I hate seeing these Chinese games being flooded with Americans.
In my opinion, it would be better not to give kids money but to save it instead, and only when the child turns 16 or 18 should they receive all the money
I thank god for living in europe xd
Pull for the cane but you lost your 50 50 to a belt
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