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I compiled ALL the abyss 12 usage data from Genshin Impact 3.0 to 4.8 from yshelper / nga into a single spreadsheet so we can more easily analyze the meta and the results of it all!
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@12:30 Now its game accurate. Barbatos being the weakest. But I think he will rise from 4.7 and 4.8 due to floor 11 annoying slimes! 😂
we got genshin data analitics lmao
I 36 starred the abyss for the 2nd time. This time I used Wrio, sucrose, xiangling, bennett on top half & Neuvi, furina, jean, fischl on bottom half.
WOW so much efforts , i love this type of informative videos , after what happened to neuvillette i think owning characters you love will turn out to be better than going for strong characters , many 5 stars that were HELLA strong upon release became Hard to play with now so i think its more like "who's next" , this definitely is done purposefully to sell characters then idk why they become hard to play and their dmg /buff would seem useless UNLESS you love the character and have fun playing
Well well well
With main DPS characters – it's like they'll be popular until the next DPS is released.
The " I don't want to play with you anymore" meme seems super relevant here!
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My brain cells 🤯🤯
i like to say what the sigma along to the intros song
Can the data show difference between F2P usage and Whale or Dolphin usage?
Biggest pattern i found is that the Abyss clear rates are self reported so the 90% of the playerbase who doesnt bother to report arent in the list
Me, who always uses Raiden. And also me, who uses his C5 Diluc + WG with Xianyun instead of his C0 Xiao + PJWS. But thanks, I like such data. Too bad Hoyo doesn't offer such data.
Really hate the 4 waves abyys
My first takeaway from this list: Arle players are bad. She trivializes basically any Abyss floors and doesn't even need much in the way of support to perform well. Yet she dropped right after her banner. I can only assume that most of those people were in over their heads doing more than holding attack for 20 seconds.
Okay, but salt aside: this list is very interesting. I'll check it out when I have the time to really dive into it, but I commend your effort here, bro!
I think diluc is kind of an immovable object in a graph like this, because he's standard almost everyone has him whilst many people probably don't plan on building him or playing him
If it got extra data for what is buffed during that patch , and make a master for it, example bloom , fire, etc it would be deeper analysis to know what kind of buff benefit certain character … anyway thanks iwtl for this data.. gonna save a copy 🎉
Very insightful video. Enjoyed it a lot.
Ok new lore bros colourblind
I kind of wonder if there are still people who want to play Eula in the Abyss anymore. HoYo has only released one five stars physical focused character to date. Mika's release feels like a joke because his buff doesn't apply when Eula wants to finish her burst early, making her gameplay more RNG lol
New characters videos when for genshin and star rail
i enjoy genshin statistics more than i thought
If the cats in Cat Fantasy stayed as cats and fought as cats, I'd be way more tempted to play it than "just another waifu collector".
What I find interesting is just how the charts really verify what everyone has been saying for so long, that investing in really good supports is much more important when it comes to longevity of account value. I’d like to see more. Like xingqiu. This video could have been even longer and I would’ve kept watching.
Thanks!!
I had to give up on Jean Sunfire's team bc of the Pyro lectors. I don't have Furi and Neuvi since I have almost every Hydro Unite I skipped them and still can 36 today with no regrets. Thanks to my Yelan 🙂
Nahida-Kuki-Yelan-X team always worked well for me. I used to put any DPS with bennet-xianglin-kazu for the second part. Navia and Wrio also worked till 4.7 for the second team. But I had to change them into nahida-chlorinde-kuki-koko/kazu & arli-yelan-xinqui-bennet.
Ahh also have c1 scara and c0 childe. I would love to give them away if anyone wants😂
(i have pity feelings for my ganyu)
Jean made a huge comeback for me once I pulled furina. Somehow I’ve been blessed / cursed to have a c6 Jean and my strongest team is raiden, furina, Yelan and Jean.
Arlechinno being so low so fast is crazy…
Keep going with this awesome content.
My usage doesn't quite correspond to the charts. I still use Raiden national to clear one side of abyss. Rarely ever need to use another team unless there are shields on both sides.
We need a chart about thighs …
Interesting data, wonder what it will look like after Natland drops.
I did not learn anything from this video but I watched the whole thing
Bennett shot back up because of Arlecchino.
Furina also had nothing to do with Kokomi's decline. Kokomi's most used team(s) was being the Hydro Applicator for Ayaka Freeze and being the driver of NIlou Bloom, which both saw massive declines in usage throughout Fontaine.
Okay I'm watching this more, and looking at the data in a vacuum really is not reliable because you also have to use it in combination with the enemy trends that were releasing throughout Fontaine. Like Xiao saw a massive jump and then an immediate tumble because the Abyss lineup throughout Fontaine frequently used either Elemental Checks or Coppellia consistently who had high anemo resistance..
I used the spreadsheet to confirm the complete and utter destruction of Cryo-Impact. After 4.0.1, no one above 40% usage.
Also found the Ayaka-Shenhe correlation too be way more related than Xiao-Xianyun. So much to the point that the percentages overlap 😆
Mihoyo slapped a ton of cryo shields in Abyss to discourage Neuvillette use, but all they managed to achieve was pushing Ayaka off meta instead. Kokomi is played in Ayaka freeze, so when Ayaka’s usage tanked, so did Kokomi’s too, imho.
This chart is really interesting in seeing what effect certain character releases have on exististing charcters as well as how the abyss lineup affects our teams. However I prefer analysing characters based on appearance rate since usage rate doesn't take into account how many people have the characters.
For example Baizhu is not among the best grossing characters so his ownership rate is low compared to the top dogs. So even though his usage rate is 20% than for instance Raiden's, you can bet that a lot more people still use her compared to Baizhu but more people who have her maybe want to try out other characters after more than a year of Rational.
I imagine DPS units use trending down is due to players wanting to play with the newest shiniest toy (I myself am guilty of this at times). Plus the percentages are based on people who have the character using them, so if you are pulling for the new shiny character you are going to want to use them over your old DPS, at least for the short term when content in generally catered around the new units.
Do you intend to release a Yunli guide? 😢
Super interesting!
The one thing that still bothers me about all abyss data though, is that it can't account for people who don't have these characters.
Sure, 80%+ of people who have Neuv use him, but I don't have him.
And I can't think of a way to incorporate the "never havers" as a data point to counter balance characters that dominate usage like this.
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And interesting conjecture that can be drawn with the data are:
1. Support tends to have a higher value than main dps one of the good reason would be in a party of 4 you need 1 main dps then 3 support characters which would equate with a higher need for characters that works outside of field time.
2. Meta is mostly defined by the patch we are in, in the nation of dendro the usage of dendro character has been bosted a lot then in the nation of Hydro, Hydro dominated it would be safe to assume in the nation of Pyro it would be Pyro characters taking the lead.
3. One possible reason for lower usage of main dps is the amount of hyped for people to pull them but not having investment to unleash their full potential. From my earlier point support have higher value but we can see as per data the usage of MAIN DPS character that declined has retain the certain point that it doesn’t go lower or higher which can mean in the long run the main dps that is not as meta are still useable for people to clear the abyss. We can interpret that vertically investing to the character you want would yield the same result than having too much characters that are not equally invested.
Finally with the Imaginarium theatre going forward we might see a more different trend of characters that would be deemed as favorable.
Where's OPPA?!
I learned I am not color blind. Thank you!
10:28 Alhaitham's graph be like: WE'RE SO BACK IT'S SO OVER WE'RE SO BACK IT'S SO OVER WE'RE SO BACK IT'S SO OVER WE'RE SO BACK IT'S SO OVER
This is the first sponsor that actualy attracted my attention. I think it was a great presentation 🙂
Oh, so I wasted my time making the interactive chart with ChatGPT, since I can't share it here without my post being deleted. That's sad.
Either way, you can definitely find more insights and interesting facts by talking to ChatGPT about the data. I was going to create a Custom GPT that had the data in its brain, and then you could ask about any trends and stuff, but I guess that it won't be appreciated so I won't bother.
Thanks for sharing the data anyways, it's very interesting.
Jean going up probably had to do with Wanderer
ive consistently been using scara hyper since i got him. dont listen to the haters, hes kinda mid (even at c4)
Lyney's damage numbers are so insane when you get him built right. But due to there being so many great pyro DPS options and people not liking his bow playstyle the drop is usage makes sense. Personally he's been my favorite Fontaine DPS right next to Neuvi and Navia.
Hey Iwtl I was just wondering do you have an asia server cause if you do I'm actually one of your followers hehe I just need guidance on how to build characters on genshin until I found you hehe I admire your advice I want to see your build in game you have an asia server Iwtl and I'll be waiting for responses thank you for everything else hehe