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Furina will be good, no dip she is a Archon. I would rate her power at around a 7/10 maybe a 8/10 with some teams
her pros are as follows
She is hydro which is the best element right now
She has really good off field damage
She has the ability to fill almost every slot in the game asides from tank and debuffer
She has the ability to buff allies
Her stats triple dip meaning high damage
However she has three issues that i have noticed, most of these likely will change in the future both from more units helping her out and later Close Beta test reworks
1.) Stacking fanfare (( the biggest one as of now ))
The Flux in HP will be mandatory to gain stacks. Furina herself will be able to gain them however she will not be able to recieve max stacks alone. To make the most of furina you need two things
1.) A constant downgrade of hp
2.) Some way to regenerate hp quickly
Both need to be done quickly otherwise you will eat up half the burst time stacking buffs and at that point using her any further as a buffer will be a void notaion.
This means she requires other fontaine units. As they have the ability to put their HP in Flux. But at the time of recording the only unit who can gain stacks quickly enough to make the burst amazing is Mr. Dragon
So basically until more fontaine units come out, furina will not be able to be played to her peak potential
2.) Lack of Weapon Options.
If you don't have Festering Desire, her sig or the jade cutter there are not that Many amazing options for you. Asides from the big 3 dps per rotation drops off drastically as you use worse at worse weapons.
The wolf fang at R5 will be about 22% worse than jade cutter
The next best option after that would be the pipe obtained by fishing which (( at R5 )) is about 27% worse than jade cutter.
If you don't have any of these, and you don't want to fish you are out of luck.
3.) Lack of teams
At the time of recording Furina does not have incredible hydro application. It's not bad, it's around Yelan levels. However you can't apply hydro fast enough to function properly on vape and bloom teams
You would need another hydro unit to compensate for her energy issues as well as her hydro app.
So to sum it up.
The issue is not the Furina is bad, she is very good. It's just that as it stands she does not slot BiS into many teams. But she fills a ton of roles to a certain degree so it's not like she won't have a use, but to someone like me who has every character I will have no reason to slot her into my abyss comps unless I just like her.
Most of these issues will be changed in the future however, as more fontaine units come out and the HP scaling gimic expands furina will likely take center stage as a powerful unit.
overall, she will be a amazing character, but i expected a little more from a archon
Ya trust me there are a lot of bit*hes out there so happy that the old c6 is the new c2 but they have no idea how hard it is to stack fanfare. Plus even if hypothetically do get max stack and 140% hp the time for damage window will be low as only 5 to 6 sec will be left. And 5 to 6 sec is worth shit (need atleast 10sec with 450stacks and 140% extra hp to say it's "good"). The old one was better as it rivaled yelan c6 but people just don't get that and someone at hoyo probably realized and now they switched.
Here's a joke : Bring Qiqi, make her put the heal seal, have some (Basically 0% HP character), you'll probably get a load of that quite fast
Edit : It'll work well on lower HP characters, and not too well on higher HP ones
My C6 Zhongli, a great teammate for her! He’s constantly healing a small amount. Energy Whore? My C6 Klee lol woohooo
So bassicaly you can choose 2 options.
1. Be a sub dps but not a support
2. Be a support but not a sub dps at all
Furina is supposed to be the dedicated support for Neuvillette.
C1 Neuvillette + Furina + VV Kazuha + AP Zhongli will be the best hypercarry team for Neuvillette.
Alternatively, C1 Neuvillette + Furina + Amber Nahida + EM Raiden hyperbloom team will be good as well since this team can also take down enemies that are immune to hydro.
With the latest buffs, yes she is. Glad i went with neuvillete c1 instead of his weapon since now i can pair them together without losing 35% damage on neuvillete ( third stack of his passive )
The visuals for your gameplay are so nice on the eyes. What settings do you have it to, to make it look so good like that?
Idk I feel like Furina is exactlt the teamate Xiao needs.
Something like. Xiao, Candace, Furina, Dehya/Thoma.
I'll try it if I don't lose the 50/50.
I genuinely can't understand why people hype her up, considering her teams are extremely limited and she has serious issues
She could be very strong with Nuevillett
man i really am feeling bad because i think my yelan will be benched once i got her and i just got yelan.
bro did you forget the skill has HP drain mechanics and that will help in getting fanfare stacks and the fishing weapon is literally free (i agree her personal dmg will be low but she's isn't supposed to sub-dps), i think you are being a bit harsh just because she's an archon
I was waiting for the neuvelete video , my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Her face is so squeezable💀
I'm glad you brought up the constellation swapping.
Honestly I really do not like the fact that her old c2 (the one with hydro infusion) is being moved to c6.
Her and her weapon give crit and yet you can't fully utilize that until you get her c6 which actually allows her to become an on-fielder.
I'm sure some people like this change but personally I'm really disappointed 😢
hopefully they go back on this before they release her
Furina isnt energy hungry at all my man… As a solo unit she needs 190% ER. You get like 55 % from a weapon alone. Like 5% substat on each artifact and you are done. And you always play her in 2 hydro team. You definitely need to do more research , no offense.. cause this is one of many mistakes in this video.
Sadly for F2P (C0) she is not usable or superior as a yelan / XQ.
– you must have a 1 healer in your party or your %dmg bonus is useless because you always cap at 50% HP
– fanfare pts is disgusting to buff your team. Is not a simple like kazuha (%dmg bonus + VV)
– E skill: 3 summon creatures interval is very bad & she doesn't enough to apply hydro. Mona & kokomi still better in here
– F2P perspective is to be a C0 unit. F2P always want new character rather than get a cons.
– nahida, raiden, zhongli & venti is more the best and can impact your most of team rather than her. She is lacking of any of team. Mihoyo want you to pull any fountaine unit can be reduce HP like neuvilette so this is the best support for neuvilette if you compare to the other old unit.
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I mean you’re kinda underestimating her potential. After the buff she’s definitely archon level, she’s not Nahida, Nahida is a 10/10 character in terms of strength but she’s stronger than Raiden imo.
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i wonder if she works with Dehya… either way i am probably skipping she sounds like a character you need a team dedicated to her
friendly reminder that her skill already drains a decent amount of hp from teammates
she WILL get fanfare stacks, even if you dont play fontaine/hp draining characters, she probs wont max it out but its not useless
I feel like pulling venti ngl .
I have neauvillte already at c1 . Furina gameplay is just so booring .
Venti gameplay is fun . Atleast
how does Furina stack up compared to Kokomi for consistent hydro application? for example for Nilou teams or freeze teams?
They basically made a unit that outright powercreeps the entire cast and raises the average team damage where she is put even for non-fontaine teams by 20-40% and the unit is still "mid" lmao. Furina as she is now is easily the best unit in the game, yet somehow she is not at archon level, lmao.
Clickbait title because xinqu exists but ok
She buffs hypercarries, she buffs sub dps, she buffs healers, she buffs everything but transformative reactions oh and shielders
Imma play her with yoimiya, if you didnt know, right now kokomi's hydro app is enough to vape yoimiyas hits, so most likely furina hydro app will be enough
Isnt and there a artifact set that can enable non Fontaine characters to benefit furina q?
I shouldn't have skipped version 1.2 damn it
I went straight from 1.0 and 1.1 to 1.3, now my 1 patch break is coming back to bite me
hey guys, if you could only pick one, furina or nuve?
this whole video is just you extremely overthinking her problems
1. her C2 triples her stack gain. you will gain max stacks in like 7s at WORST
2. you can just use a healer at C0 and C1 to increase the stack gain
3. she isn't meant to be a dps, she's a sub-dps who can buff, heal, apply hydro and deal high dmg at the same time. that's why her weapon is so dmg-focused and her ascension is crit rate.
4. her ER needs really aren't that high. in a double hydro team, you're going to need like 150-160 assuming no funneling. just use Fav or an ER sands and you'll be good in literally every team, highest her energy needs will go is 180 in a mono hydro team with no favs that barely generates any particles
Did a quick scroll through the comments and so many people are way overhyping Furina. It's almost as if people forgot that transformative reactions don't benefit from bonus dmg. She isn't powercreeping or replacing any of our existing units, she's building towards a new team archetype utilizing HP manipulation as a core mechanic. People are free to run Furina wherever they want, but thinking she provides as much dmg and utility to teams as Kazuha or enables reactions like Nahida is just wild to see. Not sure where this idea of large amounts of bonus dmg somehow breaking the balance of the game is coming from, but it's not going to drastically change how we build traditional teams. Best you can expect to do is calc whether an atk/hp/def goblet might be more worthwhile than an elemental dmg goblet provided you can figure out how to get enough fanfare stacks to make that reliable.
As a side note, healers are going to be valuable in Furina teams, but I've seen too many comments thinking it will somehow max out Furina stacks early into the burst/rotation. It won't. If Furina's skill is the only source of HP drain present in the team, it will take nearly her entire skill duration to drain enough HP for the healer burst to actually provide huge gains. Overhealing doesn't count towards fanfare stacks and banking on a second rotation for your huge gains just means your first rotation will be shit. Not sure what's so appealing about having a really slow first rotation followed by a fast second rotation, when you could just build a team that has consistent dps throughout without needlessly extending your rotation or time spent on a fight just to max out fanfare stacks.
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Tbh I think the new fishing weapon (pipe) is good for her, giving 16% skill crit rate and 32% er for 5s (5s only for er and not er and skill as a whole) after using skill with 45% er substat so im not sure how her rotation will go… But she can use skill and burst (assuming she generates particles on initial cast of skill)
I think your video is incredibly wrong on a lot of her weaknesses.
1. “It’s hard to get fanfare stacks”
Straight up no. She generates 192 stacks on her own over duration. If you instant heal using a party healer that is an instant 192 at the beginning of every rotation, plus more based off taking damage.
Thats 48% damage bonus immediately every rotation (except the first) which ramps up to 75% at max stacks for the WHOLE party
Yelan + Kazuha gives about 32% with Kazuha which ramps up to an additional 50% for 82% with Yelan but for a SINGLE charcter
Furina makes putting in a healer a damage upgrade so strong that you are allowed to kick kazuha off the team with little regrets.
You don’t need Fontaine characters to get a good amount of stacks. You probably heard this from random people on reddit.
2. “There are no good f2p weapons”
Her two best four stars are both free. Festering Desire and Fleuve.
No one complains “raiden doesnt have any good weapon options” when people are too lazy to fish for catch, so why hold furina to that standard
3. Lack of hydro application/ team restriction
The only team that needs a lot of hydro application is vaporize, but most teams play double hydro anyway so this is a non issue. Yelan + Furina is more than enough to vaporize everything while giving you more damage than Xingqiu + Yelan.
Freeze, bloom variations don’t require massive amounts of hydro to function.
Her only really restriction is that you will want to play a healer, but as said in point 1, playing a healer is essentially adding a kazuha to your team.