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This video is an in-depth guide on Thoma, the newest 4* unit in Genshin Impact. I actually love his kit and am so glad to have been able to theorycraft a good build for him.
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0:00 Introduction
0:22 Kit Overview
3:06 Constellations (Important Info)
4:47 Weapon List (ER Weapon Explanation)
6:59 Weapon List (Damage Focused)
8:04 Common Misconceptions (Answering Questions)
10:32 EZ Build (Shield Bot)
12:01 Advanced Build (Support DPS)
14:24 Best Teams (and Explanation)
17:45 Abyss Showcase (12-3-1)
19:25 Thoma Review
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someone asked me about Crit on shield bot. If you're running favonius you need to focus on crit rate subs anyways to make sure you can proc the weapon but honestly you don't really need more than 30% since he's not focused on damage. Worst case you normal attack 3x. If you're not using favonius you don't need crit
A good rule of thumb I’ve realised as I played Thoma is that he’s pretty much good in any teams with squishy hypercarries. He’s also a good substitute for Zhongli in many team comps for those who don’t have him
C6 Thoma + Hu Tao c1 + Homa owners where u at?
Man i just wish that he could be a main dps
I just got him. Thats why I'm here.
I don't know who to build for my Hu Tao, Diona or Thoma. My Thoma is luckily c2 while I was rolling for Hu Tao and Diona c1. I have favonius lance but I also got sac bow so tbh it wouldn't matter that much who I picked to build but Im still having a hard time choosing.
Me who use the Catch for Raiden, well I guess I will equip him with Prototype Starglitter then. Don't have Favonius Lance.
Well Don 👌Best guide out Ther .. very Very Goodwork and well explained … Thanks alo0ot for a very detailed guide 😀
i would like see the stats of your yoimiya plz
Just curious, I'm a new player (f2p) and have a c5 thoma (I'm not currently using him.) I'm using rosaria as my main DPS, would he be a good support character for her? I'm currently using sayu for healing and ningguaang for support DPS.
I need to not look. I collect 4 stars since affordability but I need to safe for gorou and itto geo Unga bunga.
In the Hu Tao, Thoma team Can I replace Sucrose with Venti?
12:16 wait how did you spend weeks thinking about Thoma builds when he only released on November 2nd?
Sayu guide please. 🥺
@5:46 am I seeing it right? Brax doesn’t have The Catch?! squints
I've been running Yoimiya, Fischl, Beidou, and Bennett as my main team for a while now. How would you say this team with Thoma and Sayu (since I don't have Jean) compares?
I really like Thoma and ended up wishing for C6 (along with 3 Hu Tao to get mine to C3) and 100% think he has really good utility BUT I feel like stacking shields are either bugged or poorly implemented currently.
I've noticed several instances where it seems like you take damage despite the shield still being active, as if each "stacked" shield exists individually and can have it's full durability depleted and allow the overflow damage through to the character even if another shield "stack" should exist on top to prevent that.
It's not particularly noticeable in most instances but on Floor 12 of the Abyss when using Thoma to shield Hu Tao at low HP it's extremely noticeable when you will just straight up die while still seeing a shield active on your character as they turn to dust.
I also constantly forget that activating his burst does not immediately give you a shield and you need to either have a shield already from his E skill or do a normal attack to create one. Makes it somewhat awkward to quick swap through multiple bursts in a row only to get smacked by an enemy when you think you have a shield but do not.
I also feel like it's worth mentioning that while Thoma 100% has energy recharge concerns/problems, even at C4+, I'd definitely argue that his best team pairing is with Hu Tao at which point you ARE generally generating a lot of pyro energy that he can take advantage of while killing enemies with Hu Tao. That said if you have no way to funnel energy to him you can put yourself in an awkward spot if you're fighting few high HP enemies where Hu Tao isn't generating as much energy. If you fail to refund Thoma's burst by the time your shield runs out you can get in trouble trying to get it available again.
In terms of helping his ER and shield uptime if not running an ER% weapon it's also VERY helpful if you can run a Favonius weapon on another character on the team. When paired with Hu Tao you're always wanting to run Xingqiu anyway and if you can run 200+ ER% (particularly with the Emblem set) you can get away with using a Favonius sword rather than Sacrificial. This is a pretty huge help for Thoma without needing to directly run an ER% weapon on him and particularly at higher refines allows Xingqiu to generate a lot of energy that you can funnel to another teammate if need be, assuming you already want to build him with good crit stats for his burst damage making it very easy to trigger the Favonius passive.
Thoma when properly built is a good shielder, but in terms of damage I'll just stick to my Emblem Xinyan with a burst that has 100% crit rate (constellation) That's a nice solid 40K hit without food or team buffs or 100k with Bennett and Sara
I kinda wish Mihoyo made Thoma more flexible. The only pyro character I really use is Bennett :/ I understand why they made him this way it’s just hard when you love his character but don’t have a team to fit him 😭
Would 4 piece noblesse oblige be good on him?
LMAOOO I was in the common misconceptions section and I decided to skip to the next chapter and it started with him thanking us for watching and being appreciative I felt so bad 💀 I rewinded
Thanks for explaining things so well dude, so many tips and explanations I haven’t learned anywhere else
leme who is in ar57 cleared 36* abys many times got ten 5★s with 400 pulls, but not a single favonius lance . gg.
catch is used by raiden, xiangling using spine, xiao using black cliff, hutao d. bane, rosaria starglitter. aggh, and i dont have any billet to craft a starglitter, all i have is catylist billet like 10, what do i do. help
I don't know how you get those ER% numbers as they don't work at all for me. My Thoma is C6 and has 190% ER(Engulfing), and I still can't get his Q back vs bosses (Primo Geovishap as main test subject).
My rotation is:
Xingqui E -> Q -> E(Sac sword), Thoma E -> Q, Sucrose E -> E -> N1, Hu Tao E -> N1C spam.
After full rotation I'm left with his burst few millimeters shy of being full. With XQ's Sac sword procs I can fill it up. But without them I am forced to wait for Thoma's E particles on his turn, which fucks up next rotation for good.
This setup has no problems with small enemies, but requires some luck with bosses. Tho it's 190%, not 170.
I just got jean, and i haven't thought of killing the agents from fall damage
Im even using the same comp as you
Edit: i got my thoma at fav lance r2 lvl 80 and thoma at c4 but 211% ER still does me no good