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im ngl. not a single thought went through my mind when making this video. not one. the whole point was to discuss the current leading theory about hilichurls in genshin impact which is that they come from celesita and heavenly principles curse. but I dont know if i did that. this feels like a late night video post lol. genshin impact has been in a lul state, hell even the leaks are dead so its alright ig.
music: massobeats
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:26 Celestia does not create hilichurls
3:17 Celestia does create hilichurls
5:29 Celestia does not create hilichurls
6:48 More Hilichurls lore
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never really thought about that.
I think they do but only to seal away the forbidden knowledge, or the abyssal powers that corrupt them. I don't think the heavenly principles are the bad guys in this story.
We know that hillichurl already exist before khaenriah but only small amount them but after the the fall of khaenriah , hiluchurl are increase the number
And we know only who isn't full blooded khaenriah or teyvat citizens among 7 nation van become hilichurl
It seems like khaenriah welcome refugee of citizen of ancient civilizations and some rejected teyvat by 7 nation they were born and khaenriah came and welcome them open arms
It seems like kheanriah had
25%full blooded khaenriah people,
25% ancient civilizations people,
And
50% population came from people of 7 nation in teyvat
*Monstadt
*Liyue
*Inazuma
*Sumeru
*Fontaine
*Natlan
*Snezhnaya
And ancient are previous follower to god before they got backstab them
And if archon destroyed kheanriah
Seems like archon kinda kill their own people
I don’t know man, i don’t think that little Khaenri’ah girl that didn’t even knew how to tight her shoes deserves to be cursed with immortality and slowly turn into a dark goo, that does sound pretty evil to me.
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Guilty.
Wasnt they already turning into monsters before celestia intervened? I really feel like Celestia wasn't responsible for turning ppl into hilichurls but i do feel like they are the ones who actually turned those ppl into actual immortals-
And if they really turned them into hilichurls that would mean that Celestia had soo much time to actually go through and making ones hilichurl and then others full immortals- i guess celestia doesn't really acknowledge innocents unless they are under their heavenly jurisdiction cuz why turn kids into monsters but anyways their fault
We all know caribert was taking off his mask just to take a pic for the gram.
In the very beginning of the game Lisa questions whether the traveler is a hilichurl. Caterpillar, who feels like a parallel to Arlecchino, is supposedly originally a hilichurl. Caribert "dreams" that he was in a little box and then "wakes up" in Teyvat which is then similar to Wrio's quest where Faissolle drops his hat and then hides in a box. It seems like it's referencing the story of "The Metamorphosis" where one day some guy just wakes up as a bug.
There's probably some deeper truth about Khaenri'ah and perhaps alternate races that hasn't been revealed yet. Clothar seems to figure something out. Kaeya specifically points out that Dain is "full blood" Khaenri'an so he too probably knows something important about that. Traveler's sibiling freaks out at being called "Prince(ss) of Khaenri'ah" and blames Dain for what happened. Tbh the sibling probably knows the truth more than Dain.
There's something weird going on with eyes as well: Dain, Kaeya, Arlecchino all have a thing with their left eye. Furina has some weird thing with her right eye.
With the whole Tsurumi island thing though it's quite possible that the people of Khaenri'ah were also idiots and started worshiping something that eventually turned on them with the Archons + Heavenly Prinicples trying to clean up the mess.
If nothing else, its nice to find a theorists who doesn’t immediately throw the Primordial one and celestial under the bus.
SO far, Celestia has been acting very fraudulent. I can't wait for the heavenly principles to move
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8:13 I might be wrong but didn't Mona use hydro before she got her vision with help from her master or something
Well, these are just some shower thoughts, but feel free to correct me.
To my knowledge, since Unkko was able to see Sal Vinagnir fall via the Celestial Nail, it seems possible that maybe Hilichurls first appeared around the War of Vengeance. The same time as when Nibelung or another party brought the Abyss and Forbidden Knowledge to Teyvat.
With how Abyssal power is called Forbidden Knowledge, and the fact that we saw an Abyss Lector in Clothar's memories before the Abyss Order even existed, it could be possible that Hilichurls first appeared during the War of Vengeance, and that anyone who had came into contact with the Abyss had been turned into them. Then the majority of them might have been killed off by the Celestial Nails.
I believe there's a passage either in Elinas's memories or in a book which describes how there is some form of sentient life out there in the Abyss, but without form. It wasn't until Rhinedottir created bodies for them via Khemia did these Abyssal creatures gain form like with Durin and the Rifthounds. Not to mention how the Abyss seems to be antithetical to life and drastically mutates it.
ALso, just look at Jacob of the Ordo. He was turned into a Lector by Rene using the Abyss, not because of Celestial magic. This seems to fly in the face that Hilichurls are cursed by Celestia.
Furthermore, does Celestia even have the power to curse people? Or is it more accurate to say that they have the power to alter Fate? Dain does say that being cursed is like being tied to the Fate of the world.
Celestia didn't curse Egeria for creating humans from Oceanids. They just made a prophecy to punish her, rather than turn the newly created humans into Hilichurls. Plus, you're correct in pointing out how Hilichurls are tied to the Abyss, and the Primordial One wouldn't be using Abyssal powers.
Something isn't quite adding up. Perhaps the Khaenri'ans were indeed cursed, but only with Immortality. Why? Who can say? Maybe this was to stall or stop their transformation into Hilichurls? It seems like a pointless curse when they could live for hundreds of years and still practice Abyssal magic.
Not to mention Pierro puts a lot of the blame on the Khaenri'ans and the Sages and King who didn't listen to his warnings.
Also, this is another crack theory, but what if the Sustainer aka Possible 2nd Descender/Shade (Personally I'm leaning to the theory that the Sustainer is the 2nd Descender and not the Shade of Space but I could easily be wrong), was the one responsible for cursing Khaenri'ah, and the Fatui/Cryo Archon's beef with the Heavenly Principles is with her and not Phanes? Phanes seems to have been completely out of the loop on all affairs after he was wounded in the War of Vengeance, and based on the Flower Goddess's accounts the only harm the Primordial One did personally was to send the Nails down, and we know that this was done to mend the world, not to genocide humanity. Remember, this was the same Primordial One who sent Enkanomiya down during the War of the 2nd throne.
Come to think of it, Celestia punishing Orobaxi could have been to potentially stop any Enkanomiyan from trying to rebel against Celestia again. After all, both the Fatui and Nibelung rebel in part because both are aware that Phanes is an outsider.
TLDR: Hilichurls are born because of Abyss, not Celestia. Doesn't make sense for a Descender who doesn't use AByssal forces. Also, Asmoday (2nd descender or Shade of Space) may be the one responsible for cursing Khaenri'ans with Immortality and is the one Cryo Archon/Fatui are trying to rebel against. Phanes still sleeping.
Clownri'ah = the circus of Teyvat
Dragons = the frauds of Teyvat
Celestia are the goats 🔥🔥🔥
Honestly i agree with a lot of what’s here.
It’s easy to blame khanrea when all we hear are khanrea POV’s or people who oppose celestia. Meanwhile celestia + heavenly principles have apparently been dormant in its current capacity for 500 years and cant exactly explain shit to us.
Realistically it seems unlikely that a body of gods set up by the primordial one creator of humans would decide to suddenly be murderous towards the people they were presumably set in place to protect.
There’s so much we still dont know but imho the evidence is there that celestia isnt some supremely hostile entity but rather some scapegoat accused of such acts by the only people who stand to gain anything: the sinner and the abyss order.
The sinner is an immensely powerful abyss aligned entity who has had the past 500 years to unite the khanrean stragglers that they might’ve cursed to empower and rally them against a dormant celestia. The entity that also has the ability to partially “lift” a supposedly “celestial” curse in the case of caribert. While said entity pushes the world to its end where he presumably may be freed from his bindings. As seen by his statement that he was there from the beginning and will be there at the end.
Thats my take on it at least.
Celestia has left khaenri'ah alone for thousands of years, and khaenri'ah did not shy from cursing the Devine,
It was only when khaenri'ah almost brought total destruction to all of teyvat, that Celestia took action and what did Celestia do? They summoned the archons to HELP khaenri'ah fight the monsters
Also tge the first pari descrips the khaenri'ah curse as a dark skinness, and she mentioned that dainslief, who is a full blooded khaenri'ahn, had half the body of a monster, which goes against what clothar says
bro gandhi caught me so off guard
1:59 Dawit, don't tell me you do not know where those monsters came from
I'm sure you've heard about the bloodstained knight. Why do you think he changed his mind ?
And if we assume that the bloodstained knight is actually Capitani, the answer is clear.
However, I believe celestia did that to save Teyvat. Khaenri'ah was already gone.
My favourite celestia supporter and Genshin theorist uploads again >:D
All hail the principles!
Okay my theory:
Kanria people is very developed and able to use energy of destroction
They are use foul element to defeat fake pramodial one they are lose and got cured and destroys by fake primodial one 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
Alhaithem say heavenly principal is coropted because alhaithem is reincarnation or al-hamar/king desheret
Paimon is pramodial second who come change all people memory using urminsoul and b ecame fake primodial one ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Finally, more vindication for our one true God, all hail THE PRIMORDIAL ONE!
wait till dainsleif comes in with the "no actually" next interlude quest
i love your delusional loyalty to heavenly principals so hella much please continue in that way, like others said there is almost no one else among loreists who does paint HP not so bad