Cold Goth GF | Rosaria Day 1 Testing | Genshin Impact Math Stream



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Cold Goth GF is out. We’re gonna be doing some frame counts on Rosarias combos as well as looking at her potency as both a crescent pike physical carry as well as her power as a Cryo Sub DPS/Burst Damage Support.

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38 thoughts on “Cold Goth GF | Rosaria Day 1 Testing | Genshin Impact Math Stream”

  1. By far my best Rosaria setup:

    Weapon: Crescent Pike (R4)

    Team comp: Rosaria (C2) [Planning to get C6 on her], Fischl (C6) [Planning to replace with C6 ER build Lisa], Beidou, Xinyan (C4)

    Artifacts:
    – 2x Bloodstained, 10/20 (Crit rate & DMG)
    – 2x Blizzard, 10/20 (Crit rate & DMG)
    – Crit rate Circlet, + 30% Crit DMG
    – Cryo Goblet

    Phys DMG bonus: 59.5%
    Cryo DMG bonus: 61,6%

    Crit rate: 73%
    Crit DMG: 162%

    I can perform way better than either full Phys or full Cryo DPS setup.

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  2. TLDR: She’s worse than Kaeya on most comps but with constellation she catches up.

    Anyhow, take their assessment with a grain of salt, since their method is HEAVILY centered around Motion value (how much damage is dealt in a period of time). Kleeful himself even made a video saying Motion value is not everything.

    A few saving graces for Rose that I wanna point out: 1.She’s easier to get. If you want her you roll this banner, while Kaeya copies comes randomly. 2.Longer range. Her E Q both have bigger range/aoe, and as a spear user, she naturally has longer reach than Kaeya’s sword. Also her Q is a big circle on the ground while Kaeya is a small one following you, making fighting more dangerous. 3. Blink. Fighting anything smaller than Mitachurls means you have a free blink every 6s, which means extra safety.

    EDIT: another thing I forgot is that her E is free chasing lol. You'll have to spend less time running after the hillichurl you've sent flying

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  3. She feels good with the team. Her E gives cryo to enemies easily and with ER sands, her Q is always up as well. She did so well last night in the Abyss even under leveled. I gave her 4Noblesse. Pairing her with hydro is amazing.

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  4. Damn, this is brutal. So, basically:

    1. Xiangling outdps C1 Rosaria in terms of physical DPS. Her attack modifier is not high enough to compensate her slow attack speed.
    2. Kaeya outdps Rosaria in perma-freeze comp because Kaeya can just spam normal-charge attack like Keqing while Rosaria's charge attack is too slow to spam unlike Hu Tao.
    3. Kaeya's cryo application is better than Rosaria unless Rosaria is at C2. But even at C2, Kaeya's cryo application is more consistent because his burst icicle follows your character around while Rosaria's ult only stays in one place.

    In conclusion, Rosaria is like Xinyan who is lowkey trash until you have them at higher constellations. So, if you ain't Rosaria simp, better to just stick with Xiangling and Kaeya.

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  5. For the people overreacting saying "rosaria bad, kaeya and xiangling better" they mention in the stream that this is mostly preliminary testing. The differences between them arent major enough where one is just "better" than the other. Xiangling has higher motion values on pike but they do mention that ease of access to superconduct could easily make rosaria pull ahead in actual practice. Rosaria is easier to get constellations on and those can pull her ahead, shes probably one of the best low melt supports for a klee team, etc. Shes not inferior to kaeya and xiangling, she just doesnt outpower them either. It depends on the situations and setups. She also pulls ahead of kaeya as a support when youre building more mastery and shes triggering, becayse she melts every part of her Q while kaeya only nelts about 4 ticks of it. So it multiplies her whole ultimate rather than around 1/3 of it. Theres times rosaria can be better, times she can be worse, and in both situations shes not enough better or worse to say "shes bad and you shouldnt use her" cause the difference is minor. If you want to use her, just do it. Shes not enough worse than other competing units at their roles that that unit becomes a "must use" over her in that role. She just released balanced and not powercreeping, as it should be tbh.

    And hell they very commonly say "why not both?" In this video for them. Because shes one of the few cases where she and kaeya may do the same job but its just better with both anyways rather than it being like klee and diluc where they step on eachothers toes for their role. Shes not a bad pull. Just by no means a must pull.

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  6. Buying fates becomes good for low-spenders if they're at the point where there's pretty much only 5 stars left they care about, at least when it gets you to pity before a banner ends, every bit of progress helps at that point. The second condition is if you don't need the Blackcliff series, which are quite an investment to get to R5 when they might as well get replaced by better weapons down the line, I go with BP ones I'll be accumulating no matter what I do, and bite the bullet for crit-dmg artifacts.

    Thing is if you're a low-spender, you're not using THAT many characters at decent investment to begin with, but if you do need more weapons in a class, I'd settle for fav/sac/stringless/prototype etc. as second choices. Only if you care about keeping up with 5* releases you like over anything else though, I've decided that's more important for me than getting some better dmg here and there, from weapons I might just as well replace and cons I can do without for now, when current weapons slap just fine.

    There's still some cons I want, but I'd rather wait it out, 4*'s have a decent chance of popping up over a long period of playing, 5*'s are awkward to impossible to plan around and actually have an okay chance to get on a budget.

    Not to mention buying a character from the shop and then getting excess from gacha, that's just a complete loss of resources. It is a game of chance so it can still be a good decision, but I don't care about standard banner characters enough to risk it.

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  7. Since Spiral Abyss needs 2 teams instead of 1, Rosaria can go join the 2nd team while Kaeya can stay on my main one thus allowing me to use both.

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  8. Were at the point of the game were everyone doesnt have a free Fischl or festering. So you cant assume everyone has one.
    There is people that took a breaks during those event or only started to play after those event. It should be a better mind set to only assume people have items that you can currently get free.

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  9. Like beidou, she has potential as a mixed utility character. Im planning on giving her death match and 2x cryo and 2x phys with either phys or cryo bonus cup… and discard phys XL so she can be a EM bot or something.

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  10. I know nobody remembers but can you make a detailed guide for a character called Klee. She's the most adorable character in the game. She's also one of the top damage dealers.

    Right now, I'm trying to reach out cause I don't have time and resources as an F2P to extensively research on Klee. I do still want to research but I'm stuck with farming.

    A detailed math guide for her set.
    4pc crimson witch,
    2pc crimson witch + 2pc gladiator

    Using mappa mare
    Using Eye of perception

    Then, the best comp

    Xingqiu, Sucrose, Bennett
    Or with Noelle for increase survivability
    Or change Xingqiu for Mona or Rosaria cause why not
    Add in fishcl cause yah

    Thanks.

    All for Klee.

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  11. I’m not sure why a lot of people were assuming a 4 star dps would be good. I think you should still try to (reasonably) pull and then just keep on your bench until a new meta combo comes up. There’s a lot of 5 star heroes that work well with a 4 star randomly

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  12. TLDR She's not a must pull, but not a bad unit to have.

    Question 1: Under what condition should you pull Rosaria?
    Answer: You are not close to pity, and you don't have Diona or Ganyu.

    Question 2: What is Rosaria good at?
    Answer:
    (1)Main physical dps with easy superconduct with Fischl or Beidou. In this team using Crescent Pike is good choice.
    (2) Klee reverse melt support (melt Rosaria's Q while Klee's attacks act as an aura because Rosaria's Q is not fast enough to be used as an aura but have quite good chunk of damage compare to other 4* cryo units).
    (3) Freeze team with Rosaria, Xingqui, Kaeya and/or Chongyun (This team should not have unit that melt or shatter frozen enemies).

    These details can change later depends on more testing.

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