Thoma is the new 4-star Pyro Shielder who arrived with the Hu Tao banner of Genshin Impact 2.2. Is he the new 4-star Zhongli? In this first impressions / day 1 review, l discuss C0 Thoma’s shield strength, damage potential, energy issues, and my gameplay experience and overall team value. In this support build, he is using R5 The Catch and a 4-piece Emblem of Severed Fate on C0 (no constellations). #GenshinImpact #Thoma #HuTao
Timestamps
0:00 – Intro
0:48 – Build, Weapon, Artifact
2:10 – Is His Shield Good?
5:55 – How Much Damage?
6:54 – Team Reactions?
8:11 – Energy Issues?
9:21 – Verdict
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CLARIFICATION NOTES:
4:32 – Re waiting for a few seconds before activating the burst.
My personal idea was to spread out the cooldowns and get some mileage from the Skill shield before refreshing and stacking with the Burst-generated barriers, translating to uptime management. Then, when you have the last stack/s from the Burst's barriers (whether before or after the Burst duration has ended), it's more guaranteed that your Skill is ready to refresh and restack on them, assuming you didn't break the shield yet. You DON'T strictly need to do that. You can use the Skill and Burst right away and still manage to refresh the last Burst barrier, with only a slightly increased risk of missing the opportunity–because your shield either broke or you forgot to time it correctly.
In that waiting time, I don't just keep Thoma on the field as I did in the actual clip (I realize I should've used another clip to make it more obvious). What I do, as you can also see in some Spiral b-roll, is to fit in rotations and setup during that time, but swap back to Thoma to activate his burst, before swapping into the Main DPS (Hu Tao, Yoimiya) so that the Main DPS can proc the Fiery Collapse as much as possible within Thoma's Burst duration.
After getting C1 though, since his Skill CD can just be 12s, this isn't much of a problem anymore when I use him.
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i have 100 fates, is it worth for team up thoma with hu tao miss?
Black tassel…hp crown,sand,goblet with 15++ er substat..tom+emblem 2piece decent shield bot
Hi
After too many pulls (sigh) Thoma came home. I wanted to make him a main dps so I built him (after many tries) with 2 pale 2 crimson, talents 9-9-9 and Primordial Winged-Spear. He works pretty well (20k-35k on vaporize), but he's a bit slow and definitely needs more ER than I expected. He's fun and cute, I love him <3
So glad i found your channel, very good guide and enjoyable explanation. Keep up the good work. 🙂
thank you
Thoma haters before his release bite their tongue rn
My girlfriend got an insane day today I’m so happy for her! She wanted Hutao for a very long while now, and have been saving for months lol she’s a low low spender, and she managed to get a first copy of Hutao near pity, THEN ANOTHER HUTAO JUST 40 WISHES AFTER!! That’s not it, we also decided to get her to dump her wishes on the homa banner because she has enough for two guaranteed chances, and she got HOMA IN 40 WISHES LIKE WHAT?! In total she got C1 Hutao, C1 Thoma, 3 Constellations for her Diona, 2x The New 4* Polearm, 2x Sac Sword, Widsth, and Homa 😂 it’s pure insanity that she did this all in just 130 pulls total! I pray for this luck for my banner I wanna wish on (And hope he’s good asf that Arataki better get better arms too).
I got him as well as hu tao with his C1, i might consider to pair him with hu tao for that elemental skill reduction
is it alright if i use thoma along with childe, raiden and bennett? i don’t have xiangling built because I have been waiting for thoma for a really long time.
In next abyss, shielder and healer will be more useful. Since the blood thingy in abyss 11 – 12 will be appear again. Im afraid with pack of wolf thing. Im building thoma rn since my eula need Zonghli more than hutao's team.
Eula team : eula, raiden, Zonghli, bennet [my bennet heal 9k, so eula Didn't need other healer]
Hutao team: hutao, kazuha, kokomi, thoma. [xinqiu is not useful for blood lost so, i need to save this team more with shield and up the power with pyro resonance]
Thank you for the guide! 😭
she says"for non shield havers" Noelle:am i a jk to you?
People who build Zhongli as dps or sub dps will most likely do the same for Thoma
He seems like a missed opportunity to be a defensive all-rounder, and I'm worried his low HP and atk% ascension undermine his niche too much. It also seems like you'd ideally use him with a hyper-carry and damage support (which I don't have). I guess we'll just go fishing until Itto comes home…🐡
I lost my 50/50 to C1 Diluc, but I got C3 Thoma so I'm here..
wohooo at least i got a c1 jean 😂 and a c3 thoma,
fuck my life, 😭
at least i got a guaranteed for my next pity
Is he suitable with 4piece tenacity of millelith ??
Diona or Thoma for a HuTao main?
Hi nice video explaining his abilities. I would like to know if whether Skyward Spine is a better weapon for him rather then R5 catch? I plan to use him mainly for shield so im goin all HP main stats with a 2pc Emblem + 2pc Tenacity
I just started to play this game and got this guy on a wish. I really dont have any idea of what you are talking about but at least i have insight om how to play him. Ty for the guide.
Nice video :D, Will we get a video of Thoma C6?
I just didn't wanted Thoma and got c2 Thoma out of everyone I would have liked sayu but no sayu Rip my 30pulls
me who uses zhongli and thoma in the same team. mm yes yes
Disliked for calling Zhongli "brain dead", if you cant see how he can make the game more fun you are what you called him.
Already tested.
Tohma er 180-190 for below c 4
Er 150-170 for c4+
Tohma best role as shielder, him being pyro is huge bonus for resonance too.
Low reaction burst also great.
Tohma as sub dps pretty lackluster because multiplier is at low end.
Hence catch is a waste on tohma and favonius cant work well.
Black tassle is BiS for tohma shielder.
2 mileith 2 emblem
C6 tohma = geo resonance
Tohma pyro resonance = zhongli shield res reduction
C6 tohma can ditch 2 geo(+zhongli) in hutao+Xq and free 1 slot for anemo VV
Tohma+bennet+ keqing works great
Just like tohma+Xq+hutao.
c6 thoma isn't bad, wish i would have tried him before i activated all of his constellations though to feel the difference for myself. Sad part is i didnt want him, i was expecting maybe a c2 at most. i wanted a c1 hutao but of course not all those gems saved for nothing Thanks Jean.
Not me here, watching after crying over him not coming home🤧
No one should have a better shield than the geo archon
They should buff his damage
Fingers crossed that he was designed to work perfectly w/ Kamisato Ayato as well (and that they're on the same banner bc I didn't get him in 61 wishes :'-D)
While keeping an open mind, I don't understand your justification for staggering the shield and burst as demonstrated in the video. Would his shield run out before his skill was available again? If not, then I don't see why not just pop both, do damage on another character, and then come back to Thoma for a refresh. (I may be missing something obvious!)
How is Toma vs Diona as a shielder? Personally I don't think it is as useful for F2P or low dollar investment accounts to compare the shielding of 4 star character, that we have a descent chance of getting, to the shielding of a 5 star character that many of us don't have and likely won't have for a very long time. Also, is the choice between Toma vs Diona more of a team composition issue? Cheers!
I must be the only one running Milleleth set on Thoma.
Thoma the tank engine…
He is usable, fortunately, but with the current roster, outside of the Hu Tao team, he doesn't have a good team that could use his kits optimally.
I get that we need more balanced characters seeing that we still have many countries and therefore characters coming, so power creep would be a big problem if all of the new characters are as strong if not stronger than what we have but I feel like MHY is playing a bit too safe lately and sometimes to an unreasonable degree like Baal X Beidou situation
Well, I just hope I could get C6 Gorou, I'm saving 100+ pull for Itto banner, I want my geo team to shine real bad.
you recommend using elemental shield and stay on it for 4-5 second. You know how much dps you would lose ?
you have a beautiful voice and thanks for the good review!
Why isn't there a sacrificial polearm?! It would've been perfect for him!
Wait a moment… if he keeps on gaining new shields.. does that mean that if he gets damaged he has the potential to get back up until he reaches his max damage absorption? If that’s the case he is for sure one of the best tanks in the game
Brain dead like zhongli? -999 social credit
His shield is good, add in some extra pyro dmg and how pretty he is and you get a perfect character in my books
Thoma the tank engine
I've gotten used to Zhongli ever since I got him on his rerun, so I might not use Thoma for shielding that much. Nonetheless, Thoma can be a good pair for pyro resonance Hu Tao,wherein the latter came to me in but a single wish 😀
Non zhongli havers
i saved and farmed for weeks just to max and crown my (ended up C0) thoma. was it worth it? no. do i regret it? absolutely not.
202 base attack like the lowest in the game he also has low hp 16k at lvl 90 with hp substats his burst dmg doesnt even scale past 100% at lvl 9 and he comes with a wack attack stat. I run him with baals spear and 4 piece emblem man only hits for 7k and his vapes dont even pass 20 hes so underwhelming. If you have a xianliang built dont bother with him no need too downgrade.
As someone who doesn’t hv zhongli I find his shield good
I’m used to dodge a bit with a shield(diona) so it shouldn’t be a problem for me
in terms of shielding, how good is he compared to Diona with sacrificial bow? i got him c6 from having bad luck pulling hutao and is afraid of wasting resources.