Addressing All the Misinformation About Raiden Shogun | Genshin Impact



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My Raiden Shogun Manifesto

Imagine that, you test a bunch and see how shes supposed to be used.

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  1. That internet dude " she's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist".. Alright zhongli is OP no doubt, right? what "problem" does he solve? he offers a shield ok, but I don't have him, and I cleared all content with with no shields, do I really need that strong of a shield? No. The game doesn't have "problems" it has a level of difficulty that can be overcome by investing into your favorite playstyle, if you don't prefer Raiden's playstyle just Fkin skip, easy as that. Just like I skipped Zhongli and venti, not because they're bad but because im not into their playstyle, His cc is so good but not really needed, no skill in this game is needed. The goal is to clear content not to gather bunch of hilichurls in one spot.

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  2. I think for the c2 scenario, it’s more so the fact that because it’s easier to obtain, the more irritating it is that you don’t have it. If it were at c6, no one would complain because at the end of the day, it would still only be whale territory. However when it’s at c2 it’s at least somewhat obtainable even in the perspective of like a bp Welkin player or someone who has just saved up for a while. Like for example, look at dish. She saved up 30 k primos and got c3. So the idea that a character is c6 worthy at a mere 2 constellations irritates people because of the gap between c0 and c2.

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  3. Of course Raiden is better than fishl regarding the AOE statement. The question is though how much better is Raiden than fishl actually. Fishl is kinda free, Raiden wants your primogems for only being a little bit better, also being electro is something noone wants anyways – so its not comparing 5star to 4star characters its just the fact that Raiden costs primogems

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  4. Also you are defending Raiden Shougun just because you did summon her C3 instantly with R3 weapon because you wanted to do it and you never were interested testing Raiden with C0. So there is no point for you to defend saying she is not at bad at C0 which is wrong because she is bad at C0 with no 5star weapon. Reason = She costs primogems. Also. Xinqui, Xiangling, Bennett national team does not require Raiden, if build correctly you can spam your ult's always on cooldown especially xiangling wants to use emblem set as well. I would go even one step further and say that Raiden Shougun makes the team even worse because you could just use Kazuha instead of Raiden who is 10times better than Raiden because he can 4piece vv -res and buff at the same time + group up enemys and do further passive damage as well. Sorry dude but you are just telling wrong things here, and you did that because you invested in a C3 Raiden with R3 weapon thats why you defend her.

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  5. Her kit is fully functional at c0 yes c2 is a massive power spike that's true but that doesn't mean that she doesn't do her job at c0 ofc the guy who spent money on the game is going to do more than you it's not pvp in any way or has content that requires you to have her at c2 so what's the issue

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  6. honestly we all just want the beidou interaction and thats it everything else about raiden its all fine
    her underwhelming damage is fine cause beidou fucking carried everything electro but still… locking it in cons is a fuck you to mihoyo.
    and thats the reason for the fact that she becomes "great" from "ok" in constellation pisses people off
    and no i dont think raiden shogun is broken, i dont think she is meta defining cause for real tho letting u run more crit in other chars such as xingqiu means u gotta spend 2 more months grinding for artifacts cause that shit sucked. xingqiu's damage increase is not justified because of that but if u have the artifacts already then maybe or maybe not u would rather put that on ur main dps such as hutao or ganyu but they dont really benefit from raiden cause they dont have energy problems to begin with
    but for real if u want more damage for xingqiu in for example a hutao team would u rather put another hydro character such as mona or maybe kokomi that can generate energy and battery for xingqiu? how much difference that and a raiden shogun would make? cause if u do run raiden instead in that hutao team and u want to deal more damage on ur xinqiu u have to waste 5+2 seconds 5 as to ur reccomended raiden field time and 2 for the animation thats already 7 seconds and at c0 ur basically dealing less damage than hutao and we also have to take account xingqiu cast time and also ur other supports that adds up more time roughly to 14 seconds total

    that means by using raiden over a sac sword or another hydro battery for ur xingqiu in a hutao team would be a dps loss instead of a benefit on ur xingqiu cause really no matter what ur xingqiu doesnt deal as much damage as hutao and raiden doesnt deal as much damage as hutao. and by not having hutao on ur field outside her downtime means its a complete dps loss

    the only case of raiden makes sense is only in a team comp that:
    1. need a lot of energy
    2. all the damage comes from burst
    3. compatible with electro
    4. and must have downtime so that downtime can be filled in with raiden
    5. actually work with raiden

    and so far the team comps that work best for her is the national chinese team comp, and eula teams those are the teams that have the "best" synergy with raiden support and thats pretty much it. else not great or have a problem

    mind u i myself dont like raiden for that fact thats why i just ignore the meta and run her only in overworld casually with teams that infinitely CC (venti, mona, zhongli)

    the only way of making current raiden good is just to bet and gamble and rely on future characters that meets the list that i stated above and thats the route i am going with, IF mihoyo is not planning to buff or fix the beidou interaction. and also since i am a big yae miko simp i kinda have a high hope but if she doesnt work well with her i am going past the point of insanity.

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  7. I love my Raiden because she is mine. and I agree that having her in my teams make me want to build many artifacts and weapons to mixmatch. It is unbelievably fun for me. now if only I dont constantly lack the mora and artifacts fodders needed :")

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  8. This is why I run Kazuha main dps sacrificial sword and he got 36 stars abyss just using my Xiao's artifacts. Just waiting for rerun to try to get him c6.
    I'm gonna the same thing and make Baal a main dps but got lucky with c1 trying to Sara.

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  9. I don't like water boy so I couldn't be happier that I can put Raiden in my Tartag-Xiangling-Bennet classic and also deal more damage because there are also electro reactions happening and not only vaporize. I also can't imagine the abyss without her since now, I was barely getting 2* on every floor 12 chamber the last couple rotations and now I'm only about 15-20 sec away from 3* in 12-1, 12-2 and around 30 s away from 3* on 12-3. That's a HUGE difference for only one character, I'm sure I will be able to 36* very soon as fast as I can get a hold of more artifacts for my other supports ^^ She's the new Xiangling for me, our masterchef was my first character build and my main DPS before I got Tartag and Klee. Even though she became a support she was still the one used during his downtime and I couldn't be happier that now I can give her more suitable weapon because she won't need any phys damage ^^ For every DPS with downtime (i've seen Eula, Yoimiya and Noelle mains happy in particular) she's the best we could ask for and it doesn't matter how you run them (for example she's good for either vape, teaser and fireworks Tartag)

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  10. lmfao everyone knows full well that mihoyo has been tempting us to spend money on this game. Getting tempted to spend money for C2 as an F2P and getting mad about it is basically just nothing but making more reasons for mihoyo to buff her. Well, im not gonna complain! Its a win either way for me. Buff on not, she will be in my team for eternity.

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  11. Raiden's constellations are fine. This is coming from someone who doesn't even have her. Anyone can manage C2 Raiden if they saved in advance and if they started saving now until a rerun they could absolutely manage to get it even if they're f2p. The problem is that people simply don't save their fates most of the time and roll on the next character that pops up and then complain when a character has things locked behind constellations. And what's funny is that her best constellation is extremely easy to get compared to things like Xiao, or Tartaglia. I can guarantee that most people who dislike it probably roll on every banner and only manages to get C0 because they only had enough to hit pity once due to them giving in on previous banners.

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  12. I have a question as an f2p…
    I could go for another constellation on Raiden (C2) or I could start saving for the next banner, is C1 good enough to clear all content in the game or is C2 necessary? I'm currently dealing about 130k on initial slash with mine please let me know y'all's thoughts insight would be greatly appreciated

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  13. electro charge will never mess up vaporize.
    My main team I always use is Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Fishl & Beidou and even though I use 2 electro characters Hu Tao is still vaping every charge attack.

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  14. Her damage is not a problem, it's a support, the problem is how she works with others, her E doesn't hit shields, the Beidou controversy, the problem with ER, I mean, I've been using her with the national team and I still need the ER in the other characters (I have 250% ER with her), so I'm wondering why I would use her if every other character does it better and when I'm using her is when the damage problem comes in, at c0 with the catch is doing like 3K per hit (yeah, I know that the initial cut do 80K) it's fucking ridiculous how her weapon and the c2 solve that problem by using her as a dps, the only buff that she needs is the e and the interaction problems.
    Sorry for bad english, I'm still learning

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  15. Bruh 3:34
    You really gonna have to first look up how damage is calculated.
    It's actually
    Atk = base atk*( 1+ atk percent) + flat atk
    Therefore
    Outgoing Damage(non crit)= Atk*(ability multipliers)*(1+ damage%)
    However crit damage = outgoing damage* (1+ crit damage%)

    Therefore in simple terms, crit damage scales much better than damage percent and talent damage percent. However talent damage percent is hard to buff.
    As for defence and resistance shreds
    Those are extremely good it's very similar to building crit damage.
    You do need good atk and talents, however peaple tend to underestimate atk and EM and overestimate damage percentage.
    Raiden shogun's buff isn't really that big as it seems.

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  16. 7:50 I dont now if im misinformed but i think its not that xinqui applies water very fast but that an enemy can have both elements electro and water at the same time and the pyro char can proc both reactions

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  17. She will be amazing later and i don't mean through buffs to her. Future characters will have synergy.Yae miko? You'll get to see her full potential and worth later with new characters coming out. It's goign to be a lot like how a lot of weebs thought bennett was trash too at first. Also unless you been 36 starring every abyss for ages like some of us , Your opinions mean jack shit on her or anything meta related period. A lot of us do our bi weekly 36 star abyss clears with teams that are not meta. Game is simply too damn easy with little to no endgame content and not every character needs to be a one button world destroyer for damage

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  18. I thought it was pretty intuitive, go er% all the way, damage is okay but everyone always having burst is awesome
    I have 70% crit rate, 120% crit dmg, 280% er. Forgot attack it’s high though atk% cup

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  19. Have her at C6 level 85 with R1 level 90 Engulfing Lightning. 52 crit rate, 123 crit damage, 277 energy recharge. Talents at 6,11,11. I'm still getting used to her and testing out various party line ups, but so far probably the most enjoying team thus far has been pairing her with Yoimiya, Bennette and Venti. Yoimiya feels pretty strong in this line up and venti + baal help to deal with multiple enemies.

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  20. I feel like they purposely nerfed her so they can replicate a Zhongli effect, and have her rerun sell nearly as much as her first banner, just like it happened with Zhongli. Like, you think they would miss this opportunity? 2 days of her banner broke the revenues record, and after all these complaints, people probably stopped hyping her, and i bet a lot think shes just plain garbage, but if they buff her, people may think "hey, now shes good, ima get her", and people who already have her will think "hey, she'll be stronger, i want a constellation so i can feel even better", and it's a win/win situation. I also hope they buff electro, just like they buffed Geo with Zhongli, because electro is just weird, Overload is just annoying and the electro-charge reaction should be a cool crowd control, and interrupt enemies for some time, JUST LIKE THEY INTERRUPT US! I'm not even talking about the damage of these reactions, i just want them to make Overload a decent reaction for when i want a electro main dps, and electro-charge be nice for electro sub-dps/utility.

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  21. Yo i’m so happy, my bro was mocking me about how I wanted the shogun so much so we made a bet if I got her in 50 tries he’d give me 10 bucks, not knowing i’d get her, I hoped that I did and got her in 3 tries. What I actually came to this video for was to see who she even is since I haven’t really played since the re banner of The geo arcon. Lol

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  22. I totally agree with almost everything you said. She completely changes the way you play the game. The content right now is too weak to put Raiden on your team. She is that good. You can't even finish a full rotation with her on your team before everything is dead.

    I used her on part 2 floor 12 and cleared magu kenki in less than 45 seconds. I did it utilizing ayaka as main DPS, a support Ganyu with sac bow and Noblesse, and Zhongli with milileth and favonious.

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  23. I'm over here rocking 61 crit 142 crit damage and 232 ER wth Vortex Vanqiusher at 1800 attack without any team buffs, food buffs, you name it. On her own she handles EVERYTHING, with a team she absolutely annihilates everything. I don't think people have any idea how to build characters, they have no imagination which sucks because she' a monster if you build her properly, a lot of people say her damage is disappointing but her damage is absurd for the amount of utility that she generates in the team, she gives crazy good energy to the team but the biggest thing she does is cause a constant tick of damage on the field, the way this works is using characters like Zhongli and Albedo with her to constantly proc her skill damage so between all three of these characters you are doing more AoE damage than any other team in the game, you can then throw any other character in the fourth slot to enjoy whatever type of game play you prefer, for me personally it's between Klee and Yanfei because enemies cannot escape the stacked damage going off all at once, you can use bennett, you can use xingqiu you can use venti, you can use any character you want to mix up the reactions. People just don't have Zhongli and Albedo to make this reaction happen in the game, it's more AoE than anything else in the game, period.

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