I have a problem with the currently accepted timeline… it just doesn't make sense that the Abyss Twin woke up almost immediately after being caught by the heavenly Principles. At various points it's been hinted that the Abyss Twin has been active since almost immediately after the Cataclysm. However… what if the fight between the Twins and the Heavenly Principles happened not after the disaster in Khaenri-ah, but before? That the Heavenly Principles was catching them because they had a specific role for them, with the Traveler Twin essentially taken hostage? That the horror at seeing the destruction is due to their realization they had a role in this? Their drive now to restore Khaenri-ah, a form of atonement? If the view of the destruction was indeed Starsnatch Cliff, then below, under all that destruction, was where the Traveler Twin was sealed away, so the Abyss Twin may well have thought their sibling lost in that disaster, hence wandering the world relatively directionless, until finally throwing their lot in with the Abyss order…
Happy 1 year anniversary! Also I loved this video the Travelers are one of if not my favorite part of the Genshin lore and story, and I can't wait until we get more info on them. Also I don't know why, but I love it when games or movies from the same companies/producers collaborate, so I really hope Genshin is shown to be more connected to Honkai than we think.
although it seems like he's struggling with being separated from his sister, what if this is just one of countless stories that they've experienced, what if for them this big story is insignificant in scale.
Thankfully there will be a new hoyoverse game soon called Honkai Star Rail, which I believe will have quite a few clues to the twins origins. Since your literally on a train that travels from planet to planet, so there's a chance that the characters will have at least heard about them.
If the twins aren't from Project Ark, which they might not have but there's more lore to come about that, then things may have played out differently. For example their planet was destroyed however they were saved just in time, learned how to travel the galaxy and defend themselves, then left to find a new home. If we do get info about the twins through Star Rail then at most I think we'll be waiting until at least the second planet, by then we might be in Fontaine (maybe) it depends on when the game is fully released.
On another note, the popular idea is that the gnostic chorus siblings are the twins. But I've been wondering if they are actually former pawns that failed to get the job done, whatever that may be.
Lumine being the leader of the abyss is a recent thing (from Karya) Also the heralds line from 2.6 Lumine flashback might suggest she might've been acting as sort of an advisor or something to the abyss because he says " so the proposal finally had your blessings" if she was the leader shouldn't it be something like she approved it or commands it. Blessing sounds a bit out of place seeing that Khenriahn's never believed in gods. If this the case it would suggest that their Chasm experiment was in preparation phase long before the sibling met or maybe even but before Arther woke up (after 500 years)
I'm wondering if this is the case did the Abyss didn't have a leader before ? Because kaeya says "they're United under a single leader" To which Paimon says "they have a leader now?"
So what was Lumine doing during that period and what was the abyss doing without a leader They most likely had alot of different faction amongst themselves because of kaeya emphasizing "United " If he was just telling us about how they have a leader he would've just said so
I can think of two possibilities Either Lumine has been going solo across the world (most likely in the Dark sea) after the Cataclysm
OR
She didn't woke up 500 years ago (after encountering the sustainer) but a few years back, and something notable and interesting also happened a few years before Aether woke up, Alice left to investigate something dangerous Lines up too well to be a coincidence
Something always bugged about the abyss sibling is, why wait for 500 years. Why not try to take over Dvalin when he was poisioned
Also if Lumine indeed appeared and took over the abyss, around the time Alice left, then it would mean that Dain and Lymine's world tour took place before the Cataclysm I m think this is possible because she has almost opposite opinion of the God (from her wanting to end them) while Arther thinks of them as friends
Please make a video on A.R. Because we can go to Inazuma at AR 30 and meet Dain only at AR 45 Maybe Sumeru will be available at AR 40 before meeting Dain
Traveler dialogue options from the beginning of the game, hm…. Travelers can look very obnoxious, and self-serving, Paimon is not much better. Most of the time act greedy and calculating. The dialogue option does not matter in the end. No matter if you choose edgy snarky, or noble options, traveler must do the right thing. I see it in daily commissions. You can choose the dialogue option, leave me the fuck alone, and deal with your shit as you please, but in the end, you have no option but to do the right thing and get primos. I most often choose the noble dialogue option, just because it is easier like it is my decision to fetch and quest around than say why should I and do it and do it either way. Traveler is most of the time a silent protagonist, while Paimon acts as a proxy and is mostly interested in treasures and food. From what I gathered traveler just wants to reunite with his sibling. And sibling is fucking with him. let's do it the harder way. who knows really what kind of relationship siblings had before. It is in the end just a game and I cannot escape the feeling that travelers are aware of it too.
wait 10 years hoyo will release a character that will reveal the character that will tell travelers past.. who knows we might get a 5 second audio of the twin in a limited event
Okay you are not going to believe me but my name is also aster but I say it as asteer a bit of a longer e sound , this is my first time watching a video of yours 🙂
I think it's more likely that the Traveler's memory of entering Teyvat was wayy, wayy before the Cataclysm. In the We Will Be Reunited Trailer, you see Lumine (or the Abyss sibling) kneeling down and clenching their fist against their chest, in front of what is described as The Cataclysm. It is most likely that the nation the Abyss sibling sees burning in front of them is Khaenri'ah, which is supported by Raiden Ei's animated sequence from the Inazuma Archon Quest, where she states, “ But I've seen a nation stride forward and lose everything to the Heavenly Principles ", where the same image of a burning nation is displayed. So if the travelers, who supposedly JUST entered Teyvat 500 years ago (during the Cataclysm), see this random nation burning aflame, I don't think the Abyss sibling would have made such an emotional gesture towards a place they weren't already emotionally invested in. Hence coming to the conclusion that the Travelers entered Teyvat a long time ago, and probably adventured all over the place. I know this doesn't really explain how the Abyss sibling was travelling partners with Dain, while the other sibling was somewhere else completely. But to be fair, Venti does have a voiceline that asks our Traveler if they can't remember him. Which is very sus.
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hey, this might now be the average comment you receive, but is the background music from 7:13 to 8:48 from the EU4 soundtrack by any chance? it sounded so familiar but i forgot if it was a Genshin or EU4 soundtrack
edit: i'm going so crazy over this 😭😭 kept on going back and forth between this vid and the eu4 soundtrack but I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ANY SONG WITH ANY RESEMBLANCE??? i'm crying
Traveler reminds me of the Doctor from Doctor Who. Both have similar experiences to exploring worlds and meeting people and trying to fix whatever happens with companions (or a sibling for the Traveler's case) while also being ancient and nearly immortal. But that's it.
The difference between these characters is that The Doctor does something called "Regeneration". When they "die" they get replaced by a new body with a new personality, though their core memories are intact. There's no text that tells about The Traveler's mortality so I assume they just don't age.
K.K isn't Kevin/Kiana/Kallen Kaslana. Kevin has honkai genes of "Parvati" while K.K has "Brahma". Kiana/Kallen didn't existed in PE (PE is when Project ARK commenced) so it's impossible to be them.
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I have a problem with the currently accepted timeline… it just doesn't make sense that the Abyss Twin woke up almost immediately after being caught by the heavenly Principles. At various points it's been hinted that the Abyss Twin has been active since almost immediately after the Cataclysm.
However… what if the fight between the Twins and the Heavenly Principles happened not after the disaster in Khaenri-ah, but before? That the Heavenly Principles was catching them because they had a specific role for them, with the Traveler Twin essentially taken hostage? That the horror at seeing the destruction is due to their realization they had a role in this? Their drive now to restore Khaenri-ah, a form of atonement? If the view of the destruction was indeed Starsnatch Cliff, then below, under all that destruction, was where the Traveler Twin was sealed away, so the Abyss Twin may well have thought their sibling lost in that disaster, hence wandering the world relatively directionless, until finally throwing their lot in with the Abyss order…
I have watched so much theory videos but no one has mentioned that in Greek mythology, the three fates weave people’s destiny on a loom so
Happy 1 year anniversary! Also I loved this video the Travelers are one of if not my favorite part of the Genshin lore and story, and I can't wait until we get more info on them. Also I don't know why, but I love it when games or movies from the same companies/producers collaborate, so I really hope Genshin is shown to be more connected to Honkai than we think.
I'm certain K.K is K.K Slider from Animal Crossing.
although it seems like he's struggling with being separated from his sister, what if this is just one of countless stories that they've experienced, what if for them this big story is insignificant in scale.
Ones upon a time, their world was thanosed. The end
Thankfully there will be a new hoyoverse game soon called Honkai Star Rail, which I believe will have quite a few clues to the twins origins. Since your literally on a train that travels from planet to planet, so there's a chance that the characters will have at least heard about them.
If the twins aren't from Project Ark, which they might not have but there's more lore to come about that, then things may have played out differently. For example their planet was destroyed however they were saved just in time, learned how to travel the galaxy and defend themselves, then left to find a new home. If we do get info about the twins through Star Rail then at most I think we'll be waiting until at least the second planet, by then we might be in Fontaine (maybe) it depends on when the game is fully released.
On another note, the popular idea is that the gnostic chorus siblings are the twins. But I've been wondering if they are actually former pawns that failed to get the job done, whatever that may be.
Lumine being the leader of the abyss is a recent thing (from Karya)
Also the heralds line from 2.6 Lumine flashback might suggest she might've been acting as sort of an advisor or something to the abyss because he says " so the proposal finally had your blessings" if she was the leader shouldn't it be something like she approved it or commands it. Blessing sounds a bit out of place seeing that Khenriahn's never believed in gods. If this the case it would suggest that their Chasm experiment was in preparation phase long before the sibling met or maybe even but before Arther woke up (after 500 years)
I'm wondering if this is the case did the Abyss didn't have a leader before ?
Because kaeya says "they're United under a single leader"
To which Paimon says "they have a leader now?"
So what was Lumine doing during that period and what was the abyss doing without a leader
They most likely had alot of different faction amongst themselves because of kaeya emphasizing "United "
If he was just telling us about how they have a leader he would've just said so
I can think of two possibilities
Either Lumine has been going solo across the world (most likely in the Dark sea) after the Cataclysm
OR
She didn't woke up 500 years ago (after encountering the sustainer) but a few years back, and something notable and interesting also happened a few years before Aether woke up, Alice left to investigate something dangerous
Lines up too well to be a coincidence
Something always bugged about the abyss sibling is, why wait for 500 years. Why not try to take over Dvalin when he was poisioned
Also if Lumine indeed appeared and took over the abyss, around the time Alice left, then it would mean that Dain and Lymine's world tour took place before the Cataclysm
I m think this is possible because she has almost opposite opinion of the God (from her wanting to end them) while Arther thinks of them as friends
KK = Kaedehara Kazuha lolz
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! I'm new here tho, but enjoy it so far
Wait… The battle pass cutscenes was about the traveler???
Please make a video on A.R.
Because we can go to Inazuma at AR 30 and meet Dain only at AR 45
Maybe Sumeru will be available at AR 40 before meeting Dain
Traveler dialogue options from the beginning of the game, hm…. Travelers can look very obnoxious, and self-serving, Paimon is not much better. Most of the time act greedy and calculating. The dialogue option does not matter in the end. No matter if you choose edgy snarky, or noble options, traveler must do the right thing. I see it in daily commissions. You can choose the dialogue option, leave me the fuck alone, and deal with your shit as you please, but in the end, you have no option but to do the right thing and get primos. I most often choose the noble dialogue option, just because it is easier like it is my decision to fetch and quest around than say why should I and do it and do it either way. Traveler is most of the time a silent protagonist, while Paimon acts as a proxy and is mostly interested in treasures and food. From what I gathered traveler just wants to reunite with his sibling. And sibling is fucking with him. let's do it the harder way. who knows really what kind of relationship siblings had before. It is in the end just a game and I cannot escape the feeling that travelers are aware of it too.
what if the twins are from one of the previous cycles of teyvat??
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when you indirectly referred K.K. as Kaedehara Kazuha, man, I'm ded now 😭
Congrats on the 1 year
K.K might be kosma or kevin killer(one of vill v personality)
Everyone is waiting for sumeru archon quest because they want to know more about the Dendro Archon, Scaramouche, Khaenri'ah and etc.
I'm waiting for sumeru archon quest because I want to see the Traveler's cool golden aura again and(probably) him using 4 elements simultaneously
Could it be that the twins are/become an Archon/god? Like an Archon/god of History or something?
wait 10 years hoyo will release a character that will reveal the character that will tell travelers past.. who knows we might get a 5 second audio of the twin in a limited event
Do you know about the relationship between honkai and genshin?
The twins are from Khaenriah. ?
And it seems that the Abyss sibling has forgotten the words of K.K
Okay you are not going to believe me but my name is also aster but I say it as asteer a bit of a longer e sound , this is my first time watching a video of yours 🙂
I think it's more likely that the Traveler's memory of entering Teyvat was wayy, wayy before the Cataclysm. In the We Will Be Reunited Trailer, you see Lumine (or the Abyss sibling) kneeling down and clenching their fist against their chest, in front of what is described as The Cataclysm. It is most likely that the nation the Abyss sibling sees burning in front of them is Khaenri'ah, which is supported by Raiden Ei's animated sequence from the Inazuma Archon Quest, where she states, “ But I've seen a nation stride forward and lose everything to the Heavenly Principles ", where the same image of a burning nation is displayed. So if the travelers, who supposedly JUST entered Teyvat 500 years ago (during the Cataclysm), see this random nation burning aflame, I don't think the Abyss sibling would have made such an emotional gesture towards a place they weren't already emotionally invested in. Hence coming to the conclusion that the Travelers entered Teyvat a long time ago, and probably adventured all over the place. I know this doesn't really explain how the Abyss sibling was travelling partners with Dain, while the other sibling was somewhere else completely. But to be fair, Venti does have a voiceline that asks our Traveler if they can't remember him. Which is very sus.
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K.K….Kiana…Kevin ??????
hey, this might now be the average comment you receive, but is the background music from 7:13 to 8:48 from the EU4 soundtrack by any chance? it sounded so familiar but i forgot if it was a Genshin or EU4 soundtrack
edit: i'm going so crazy over this 😭😭 kept on going back and forth between this vid and the eu4 soundtrack but I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ANY SONG WITH ANY RESEMBLANCE??? i'm crying
So if the traveler would say to Venti, "in your eyes, I see my world" it's not a pickup line.🤣🤣
Traveler reminds me of the Doctor from Doctor Who. Both have similar experiences to exploring worlds and meeting people and trying to fix whatever happens with companions (or a sibling for the Traveler's case) while also being ancient and nearly immortal. But that's it.
The difference between these characters is that The Doctor does something called "Regeneration". When they "die" they get replaced by a new body with a new personality, though their core memories are intact. There's no text that tells about The Traveler's mortality so I assume they just don't age.
K.K.
Either that is Kevin Kaslana, or Kiana Kaslana.
Genshin was confirmed to be a part of the honkaiverse. This makes things even more interesting for the Travelers.
K.K isn't Kevin/Kiana/Kallen Kaslana. Kevin has honkai genes of "Parvati" while K.K has "Brahma". Kiana/Kallen didn't existed in PE (PE is when Project ARK commenced) so it's impossible to be them.