An Analysis of how impactful Nahida’s Constellation 2 is
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00:00 Premise
00:29 C1 is Good QOL
01:55 Massive C2
02:46 Nahida’s Limits
03:10 C2 for Quickbloom and Hyperbloom
03:48 Nahida C2 vs Kazuha C2
05:05 The Most Efficient Investment?
06:02 Conclusion
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Forgot to mention it's around a 15% dmg increase for most Nilou teams!
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Actually burgeon teams are very good with electro characters that don't steal blooms so they can use the res shred but I don't know about burning
Question: does C2 nahida allow Crit to happen with Burning? and with Nilou’s bountiful cores?
TLDR :
Very.
I don't usually get limited 5 stars constellations but for Nahida C2 I'm considering since I love dendro teams
Already have her c6
I'd C2 her if the game had difficult content that justified it. But, with this game being as easy as it is now, I'd rather have 2 other characters I can have fun with experimenting with new teams. Overkilling mobs with huge numbers is fun, but not that fun IMO
I'm going for Nahidas c2 and I would highly recommend others also consider it 🙂
I'm glad I skipped a couple of banners(Tighnari, Cyno) and chose Nilou and Nahida before. I was able to get both and C1 Nahida and I'll be going for her C2 in this coming rerun.
Also regarding C1, the effect I like the most is the +1 electro(trigger interval decrease) of her E, especially for Nilou bloom team where I use Nahida the most. At lvl 10 burst, the trigger interval will become 2.05s from 2.5s, which makes dendro application faster, therefore making the bloom ownership to Hydro units(Kokomi driver) easier.
Does Nahida c2 work with Nilou bountiful cores?
I think if you’re f2p or a low spender C2 just isn’t worth it especially if you don’t have the characters or team comps to support with her C2 which is likely the case if you’re relatively new to the game. If you don’t have characters who can take advantage of her C2 like Alhaitham, Cyno, Nilou, Tighnari, Keqing, Kuki, Fischl yet, her C2 can feel a lot less impactful. Plus you can only have Nahida on one team so if you don’t have another solid team comp or two for the spiral abyss I think C2 is considerable if you already have a well invested account.
If you don’t mind spending potentially 540 wishes (if you’re starting out Nahida-less and are really unlucky) and other well-invested team comps C2 is good but if you’re just starting out and are more limited with your primogem budget it might be better to get more characters and expand your roster and C0 Nahida is still good enough.
You can clear abyss with c0 Nahida …so C2 is a waste 😀
Ok, my Cyno c2 waiting for Baizhu, and my Nahida c0 waiting for better timing 🙃
I have her at C0, gonna go for the C2
Question is nihida signature worth pulling at all . If you have a R5 Widsith.
Her c2 seems like overkill
I'm one of the people that were mentioned in the end. DMG increase is cool and all, but new characters are just cooler and enable different playstyles and if "powercreep" were to happen, not playing a c0 5 star anymore, would hurt less than not playing a c2r1 character anymore
So how much more dmg Al-haitam Will do in short?
If only the game gives enough primogems for a 5 star character per update instead of 2 updates. I’m still saving from pulling Raiden’s C2 & Hu Tao C1, but putting Nahida, Nilou & Baizhu in one update is a dick move.
It is good if you want to spend that much. If not, get more characters/weapons. (But not her weapon unless it’s for like driver Sucrose or something.)
All I know that it's on par with Raiden's c2
C2 nahida is so fucking broken for hyperbloom, it's basically free -30% def on enemies plus hyperbloom crit
I like when enemies dies quicker
My arti luck is shit
But my weapons banner is too good 😛
So now, i prefer pulling for cons than different characters bcuz hell i dont wanna bother building em
(Refering to arti :- :-P)
Well then with this info my map to get cons is Now;
C2 nahida > C1 yelan = c1 kazuha > c2 kazuha > c2 yelan > c0-c3 raiden > c1 hutao
(my c0 hutao is strong enough n my gameplay good enough to clear abyss but ofcourse i want that quality life improvement )
I got C2 on release I’m going for C4 now
Thank you. I’m F2P but got lucky on first run and got Nahida C1. I run her in different teams with either Alhaitham, Cyno as a DPS this is really useful. Still need to win the 50:50 and hoping for good 4 stars🤞
I would get her constelations but my Credit card said no
do you know how Nahida's C2 interacts with other defense debuff like Lisa, Raiden, Ayaka, and Klee?
dont forget kuki is on the banner
Very informative. Thanks!
A minor nitpick/question, maybe I understood incorrectly or didn't pay attention, but in the Nahida C2 vs Kazuha C2 section, I'm assuming the damage increase listed are relative to having C0 Nahida or C0 Kazuha in their respective teams?
Regardless, Kazuha's C2 not being as broken as Nahida's C2 sort of makes sense and is balanced since at base/C0 they are different (sub)types of support units. Namely, C0 Kazuha is primarily a buffer that's unparalleled in boosting % elemental dmg to elements that can be swirled via his A4 passive in conjunction to being a great CC/grouper and swirl+VV enabler. He's not reliant on his burst for his main function (nor any of the others) except in cases where you'd want an extended A4 buff duration (because his passive works/refreshes even when he's off-field unlike VV 4pc set effect) for characters with long field times and/or those with abilities that don't snapshot. On the other hand, C0 Nahida is primarily a (sub)dps unit with strong talent multipliers in conjunction to her excellent dendro+Deepwood enabling capability with her 1.5U elemental application and AoE that doesn't need CC/grouping. Contrary to C0 Kazuha however, her "conventional" buffing function is an EM buff to only the active character via her A1 passive but this requires both the use of her burst and a party member with high EM. She herself values crit due to her dual-scaling and multipliers, thus is not typically built full EM, so her EM share is only maximized by having either a swirl unit, or a bloom-related trigger in the party.
Then, their C2s are likewise somewhat of a contrast to each other's with Kazuha's C2 requiring his burst to buff EM like Nahida's A1 whereas Nahida's C2 only requires triggering dendro-related reactions to those marked by her E to give buffs and debuffs in a similar way to Kazuha's A4 only requiring swirls.
*Amusingly, their C2s can be said to be something that the other already has at C0.*
With these in mind and relative to teams that don't have either of them, it can be argued that a C0 Kazuha grants a bigger damage increase to "swirl-element" teams than a C0 Nahida to dendro teams. In context, a C0 Kazuha can nearly double the damage of mono-element/freeze teams (btw, I stand by my opinion that EM is still Sucrose's department even with Nahida or C2 Kazuha considered). But they become on par to each other when you bring them both to C2. Consequently, by proportion, the increase granted by Kazuha from C0 to C2 is smaller (due to the bigger base) while that of Nahida from C0 to C2 is bigger (due to the smaller base).
Thus, my conclusions in terms of primogem investment:
1. From "null", both are amazing investments but with getting a C0 Kazuha being arguably more efficient than getting a C0 Nahida for their respective teams.
2. From C0 to C2, I agree that Nahida is more efficient.
3. From "null" to C2, they are arguably on par with each other in TOTAL value.
Sidenote:
Kinda similar case to C2 Raiden hypercarry vs Childe international all over again. With their common teammates Bennett and Kazuha considered, Raiden's C2 effectively translates to an amp reaction multiplier to her burst form. Sara boosts this further especially if she's C6. But Raiden+Sara damage is something achievable by Childe+Xiangling. However, Raiden+Sara wins in terms of speed (due to being more frontloaded) and unga bunga ease of use.